Also, feminists, and those infected by political correctness, are constantly requiring males to be emasculated and walk on egg shells for the crimes of our gender.

well you would be wrong.

Rape story #1. The DA in the CU gang rape case has already decided not to pursue rape charges vs the football players. Gee what a surprise.



Rape story #2. The first half dozen rapes committed by Troy Graves, the serial rapist/murderer never even made the papers.

You dont really believe that do you? If someone from the math club committed a crime, the fact that that person was in the math club would never even be mentioned in the story. If that same person was in a GLO then the GLO would suddenly be put on trial.

On my campus (and probably every other campus in America) there a hundreds of alcohol citations given out every year but you will never read a front page article on any of them unless it involves a GLO.

Ya know Max,

My style is not argumentative like yours, but...

In these cases, you would be wrong. Read the entire thread carefully.

1) Troy Graves first several rapes were in Philadelphia. He was not identified until after the first several rapes in Ft. Collins -- but the story was covered as a series of rapes near campus anyway. You can't identify a suspect until you have one. In addition, coverage depends on locality as much as anything. A murder, for instance, is much more likely to make the paper in Ft. Collins than in Detroit -- or even Denver. It would be more likely to be covered in some smaller town than Ft. Collins.

2) The CU comments were about news coverage -- the story was covered and the athletic department, football team and the university took their lumps -- even though they handled the situation fairly forthrightly. It makes absolutely no difference whether the DA decides to prosecute or not. That's a different story and not what the comments were about. When the media decided to cover the story of the RAPES -- the DA hadn't made any decision AT ALL. Two entirely separage issues. BOTH were covered. Also mentioned by name yesterday was one of the recruits allegedly at the party AND the name of the high school he attends. It happens to be the same school my son attends. What does that have to do with the story?

3) Damn right I believe it. If an incident happens on property owned by or on the way to or from ANY organization (even the grocery store), that organization will often be named. For instance, "The woman was on her way home from buying a Pepsi at 7-11 at the corner of 17th and North Street when she was accousted by Joe Blow, age 22, a local iron worker." Tell me you haven't read comments like that. Where are the Greek letters there? And the alleged assailant wasn't even a 7-11 employee.

Max, sometimes I think you're a little selective in your reading and comprehension. I don't mind you disagreeing with me, as long as you don't argue half the point. Or the wrong point.

Anyway, as I tried to say before, this thread isn't about rape, or media coverage, or alcohol or anything else. It's about obeying the rules and taking responsibility for your chapter's action.

If it weren't for the personalized "attack" style of your response, I wouldn't have replied at all.

OKAY, Rape is most consistent with a male haveing sex with a female. That is a correct assumption even though it has happened the other way!

What ever way it is done, it does not matter!

Part of the problem is that when someone comes on to an individual and semi offers it all feel it is communial consent!

Notice, I did not say which way!

Anyway can be said to be RAPE if there is a reason or not!

I knew a Police Officer that was having sex with a women in his car many times consenciouly. Her Husband caught them and she yelled Rape. He lost his job , went to prison, and his life as he knew it.
Everyone who was a COP new he was having sex with her!

If a women is haveing sex with a man and says NO and He does, that is Rape.
Yes many women intice men to have sex with them and do this!

How many pretty men have you seen and how many pretty women do you know!

Do the She's want to have sex with them, or do many men who see a pretty woman want t o have sex with them!

Excuse me, but, if I wanted to get a lady drunk and hump her while she is passed pout is like humping a sack of Taters!

Introducing a drug is Criminal! Is it small peter or small mind or both?:confused:

Eloquently put Tom. :) My co-workers think I'm nuts because I'm cracking up in my cubicle.

Actually, I can think of a couple of partners that fit that bill . . . only they weren't drunk or drugged.



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Excuse me, but, if I wanted to get a lady drunk and hump her while she is passed pout is like humping a sack of Taters!

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one thing that I find hard to...stomach, happens all to often here at my college. without mentioning names of the houses...

In the last 3 years, two of the 5 greek houses here have been shut down. one for hazing, one for. Well. a number of reasons(drugs/"illeagl" parties/bad relationship with nationals). the House that was put down for hazing had a number of rich alumni convince both the school and their HQ to not expel the members, and so after a one year suspension, the 4 remaining members ran a rush. And What's going on now? hazing. Still. They bring in alumni to help outnumber the pledges. They still haze in open areas(though these are the minor things, that do the social humileation that helps give all GLO's a bad name to the non-greek's). the house that recolonized after a year of being shut down with its members expelled, has come back into the fold nicely. They too are hazing still. There is a mentality that I find explained to me very simply as "it happened to me, I should be able to do it to them." The chapters that get shut down for hazing have to stay down at least until the old members graduate, to at least try and quelch this...mentality.
I also find it rather. surprising and annoying with the blind eye the school turns to soem of the activies going on. One fraternity makes their pledges wear the same clothing for an entire week(hellth week). Each day, they make a decision. Shower, Eat dinner, or change your underwear. SEeing these guys wear the hats/shorts/shirts made for them, with the many times, degrading nicknames. (crotchrocket sticks outin my mind. And another with an obvious set of vulger words in it still makes me laugh, in a sorry, sick sort of way.) They walk around the entire week with these clothes, go to class, go to the caff, walk past admin, whom if they don't see them, on many occasions MUST smell them. And yet, they are never called on it. maybe I'm oversensitive, but...because of the history of my fraternity, I have little tolerance for Hazing...

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Sigma Nu

Delta_Theta: I can see where you are coming from!

My school was like that except no one really has been kicked off but a few when I was there. The men's groups haze in front of all and the soccer team....I mean really, we are talking about in the middle of campus with a shaved heads...

I am not sure why schools don't want to get invovled. By no means do I think the goal of NPC or IFC is to be a policing body, but if that is how it has to be then so be it until groups can wise up. Schools rarely get invovled until it is too late, I guess too much on their plate.