HOLLA BACK! :D

WTH is a "skater"?

Bruh,

I still think that you are reaching with this. Let me explain. There are always going to be those who feel independent pride for their organization, that's why they pledged that org. No one likes to hear that their organization is not the best at everything. But when it comes down to it, do you think that the world sees you and I as two entities or one group of black guys? I have love for you and your frat. But not as much love as I have for my frat and my bros. Just like you have love for your friends, but not as much love as you have for your family. either way it's all good. My father is a Que, My mother a Delta and my sister a SGRho, my wife's father a Kappa, and her aunt a Zeta. My Family reunions are basically one big PAN HELL meeting. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is talking shyt to each other but we are still family and will have each others backs no matter what. There is greek unity on many different levels bruh. Don't be so distraught that you get caught up in the whole greek bashing thing.

If you have to ask, then you might fall into that category.:confused:

Still :confused:

New Soror?
 

sooooooo "ryanzmom" is a Soror? When did this happen?

:confused:

;)

:D

Let's face it, we ALL talk crap about each other at one time or another..sometimes its jokingly to a friend who happens to be in a different org other times its amongst your own sorors and frat. Heck there are folks in the same org who talk crap about each other...it seems to be human nature..people love to step on each other's necks for some reason. It's all good when its friendly rivalry..makes life interesting..Greeks aren't the only ones who do it, wars are fought because someone always thinks they are better, stronger, smarter, etc than someone else. Damn it, let's all do what our founders intended for us to do and that's serve the community and stop all this childish trash talking and finger pointing. It's tired! Who steps the best, was the first, or has the "nicest" stereotype is so far from the real issues at hand and if you spend your whole greek life exprience worrying about and talking about these simple minded issues than you don't deserve your letters because that's certainly not what they were intended for, and I'm not talking to anyone in particular but it just so happened this topic was brought up on this particular forum so since it's not the first time people have sat around wasting breath on whose who in the greek world than I felt the need to put my 1920 cents into it. We all get upset about racism and prejudice against AA's and other people of color, but we sometimes have the same ignorance's towards each other, whose slim, whose lightskinned, who has "good" hair...even going back to using paper bags to deem whose worthy to join our orgs..i mean damn if you are here for the greater good doesn't that make you worthy already....get over it people...when you die God certainly won't care if you were a alphakappaomegasigmaiota or a alphadeltazetagammarho..GEEZ!!!

Zetaphied
 

AMEN!!

Zetaphied
 

Well said Soror!!!

Zetaphied

I feel ya, and i understand where you are coming from and your frustration...

BUT the internet and especially these forums are a chance for people to express opinions, this is your opinion I have mind and so forth. We know what our founders set out to do 70 80 and 90 years ago, but this is the present and we have to access where we are now and who we are and where we will go.....the climate of the greek envrioment was differen in the early 1900's..the greek system was not as big, black people worried about basic civil rights (pre civil rights movement), now we worry about drugs gangs and violence in our neighborhoods, so when people compare our current situation with that of the intentions our founders is not adequate.

but basically, this is a chance for opinions and concerns to be voiced... we all know there are more important things to discuss like black empowerment etc, but there are also other forums that deal with these issues, this forum has a specific topic and is a chance for people to discuss that topic.......

We all need to face REALITY...

realty is - the human race automatically self segregates...

-the black community we always have an issue that divides us, if its not light/dark skin, its body frame or class....when we were on plantations, it was the "house n...." vs the "field n....."
-in our motherland, several tribes are traditionally at odds with each other, it has been proven, some disputing tribes sold defeated tribes to american traders
-in the middle east, you can see it
-in other nations, its class
-you remember the caste system....

so when for everyone who thinks that we need to stop talking about our division, i beg to differ...NO WE NEED TO ADDRESS the issue and deal with it, talk about, and its only healthy and the basic of our government to express our OPINION,

Theo,

Let me ask you this.......what are YOUR feelings toward other orgs? Do you socialize with different people from these other organizations? I f I were to come up to you on the street and say what's up Sigma, would you acknowledge me? If you and I were friends and an Alpha from my chapter was walking down the street doing something that is deminishing the name of Alpha, would you put him in check because you know me and so should he?

Hit me back

I do agree that we need to talk about our differences, and in some cases celebrate them. But such irrelevant issues such as who has the fattest girls, the most homosexual members, the darkest skin members, the cutest, the prettiest, the lightest, etc. is such bull crap and there is no need in my opinion for grown educated, degree owning and degree seeking individuals to be wasting their breaths battling, and dissing each other especially on a public forum..to the point sometimes that the moderators have to step in and close a forum. At the end of the day it's the work you put in, no matter what capacity you serve your community either through individual deeds or group efforts..this is what counts. We should all have enough brains to know how to pick our friends based on their character rather than their looks or other ridiculous notions. Lastly, we should all be adult enough to not go around dogging someone because they didn't choose the path that we did. No matter what organization you joined to make a difference, and even if you didn't join an org. The point is YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. Maybe my even getting tired of all of this, is a wasted effort on my part like I said and frat said after me...seperatism is a part of human nature. We'll always have a reason to seperate ourselves from someone else if it isn't about race, it's about economics and so on...OH WELL (sigh) I guess ignorance is blissful for some folks.

You are right Zetaphied. We need to acknowledge the differences IN OUR ORGANIZATIONS, not with the stereotypes. We have plenty of problems dealing with our culture in society as a whole. What difference does it make if I'm an Alpha and you are a Zeta? To everyone else we are either UPPITY NEGROES or College show offs in our own communities. Let's not be concerned with Letters. i'm happy that you are a zeta. In the job world that means we have a special bond being as though we are both black greeks. So you preach on sista, just keep preachin. I got yo back!

Great comment Zetaphied!!




Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc.
"Greater Service, Greater Progress!"

UNITY IS Fukkin WACK!!!!!!!
 

I think skin complexion matters a hell of a lot and so does when your organization was founded...as a matter of fact, I don't want unity with any of you sorry bastards unless you're in MY FRAT! Actually I hate your punk ass unless you're in my frat AND IN MY CHAPTER!! No, no...as a matter of fact I despise unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, and PLEDGED ON MY LINE DAMMIT!!!!! Come to think of it, I hate most of my sands....I don't want any type of fukkin unity unless you're in my frat, in my chapter, pledged on my line, and WERE EITHER DIRECTLY IN FRONT OR IN BACK OF ME!!!!!!!!!! Yeah that's it you punk muhfuckaz!! Unless we stood next to each other for the entire time I pledged....you can take that unity crap and shove it up you're ass!


PS: if you haven't caught on to the sarcasm by now, slap yourself for being stupid! ;)

Re: UNITY IS Fukkin WACK!!!!!!!
 

*Slaps myself* :D

I actually thought you were serious for the first three sentences.

Re: These Other Fake Greeks
 

Hey
Greek Unity all the way! we gotta work together to build a name for greeks everywhere. But there's nothing wrong with a little friendly bashing. you know you're on a good level with someone if you can joke around with them.

You know its amazing how well educated people can totally miss a point,

I have a bachelors degree and working on my thesis in a masters program, and no matter how clear i write or speak, people still seem to misinterpret....

or maybe people are not LISTENING or in this case READING what ive wrote...

nevertheless, ive been in a couple of NPHC focus groups and such about this same topic, GREEK UNITY and it always comes down to the same basic thing

Hey Schizo

Hit me up at CoolTheo14@yahoo.com

Maybe I am indeed missing the point here. What is it you are trying to say? There is no true Greek Unity! People are inherently separatist by nature, in any social structure. But one of our goals should be as humans, while understanding that we inherently try to find divisions, is to still seek out and encourage the bonds of commonality that we all share.

The same goes for Greek Unity. Honestly, I really don't know isht about the histories of aka, dst or sgrho. I do however, know the history of Zeta Phi Beta, and I am very, very proud of it. Therefore, I have no reason to feel "unified" on a Greek level with any other sorority just by virtue of the fact we are all a part of the NPHC. The Greek unity I have stems from the fact that my best friend is an AKA, that the Deltas gave me a scholarship when I graduated from high school, that the SGRhos I have met have been MAD COOL to me and my Sorors. In other words, my unity stems from a personal relationship that I have with members of each of those organizations, which is how it's supposed to be. Some people are taught, or believe, that the only personal relationships they need to develop in the Greek world are with those of thier own organization, or with only the pre-1914 NPHC members, or only with NPHC members. Can I prevent them from doing that? Nope--they are in my prayers and I wish them the best, cause they'll need it--while I'm getting my network on and leveraging my many relationships, they'll just be blocking their blessings in their own little worlds. Trust me when I say that the only ones talking about "greek unity" are those who actually live it for the most part--hence why you don't see a lot of talk about on GChat or anywhere else.

-shel

Actually you hit my point right on the dot...

Ive said time and time again (if you reread my posts you would know), I have greek friends, my friend is a que and i have a few alpha buddies, but my problem is not with my friends or with other greeks IN GENERAL.
MY problem is ive met too many people that are in your face one minute talking about "lets unite" "lets be friends" but these same people are the same ones who are trash talking and talking shyt about my frat, FAKENESS, thats my problem....

I men ive met people who are one way during the NPHC meeting, and another way at the party or at the get togehter at your guys house etc. i was sick of it during undergrad and now that im in grad school, i still see the same petty shyt........even at the graduate level......

Yes, i believe there is no greek unity, that is nothing new, and im not arguing that or am even concerned with that, the issue that i brought up is, if youre going to be shady, BE REAL ABOUT IT.......

Im beating a dead horse, im moving on to a new topic

"if youre going to be shady, BE REAL ABOUT IT....... "

Hmmm...Nah, I'm not even going to say it. :D

the reason no one talks about us is becuase most people haven't heard about it (Iota Phi Theta). Shit, one of my friends in my grad program (a Sigma man) told me i'm the first real live Iota he's ever seen....shoot, like we're protected species or something. that shyt actually hurt my feelings, jk. i've never heard of people attacking the sigma/zeta relationship, if they have a relationship, cool....i have relationships with all kinds of people, no ones attacking mine. and actually, i can understand why the sigmas have beef with everyone, most people stole their shit from the PBS. i don't have a problem with them cats, seem pretty cool to me.

IPT what's that? ;)

I just wanted to say that Greek Unity as a whole does not exist yet, it only exists between certain people in different organizations. Yet you can say that Greek Unity on an individual level will exist forever as long as people will be friends before they become Greek!!!

its amazing how some of the people who use these forums can be so naive and sheltered

its ridiculous,
when youve seen the things ive seen, been to the places ive been, ive met a lot of people from coast to coast, campus to campus....

-ive seen AKAs fighting Deltas
-AKAs fighting each other as a matter of fact
-Deltas intentionally walk on zetas lots
-SGRhos who sleep with AKA boyfriends

-Deltas stealing Zeta men, and have the nerve to come to the zeta house to try to fight, yelling and acting ghetto in the front yard, until the cops were called, mind you, with letters showing and all

-I was involved in 2 fights in college, and both of them, were because of ques who decided they wanted to disrespect us by intentionally walking through a sigma line

-Kappas who throw canes during an ALPHA show on stage, starting a massive brawl

-Ques who dont like the fact, alphas have on gold boots, so decide to start a fight, with 3 people ultimately arrested...

THESE ARE JUST A FEW.....
SO Stop with the asanine comments and lets really talk.....about greek issues

It's the PEOPLE in the Organizations NOT the ORGANIZATIONS
 

Those are PEOPLE issues NOT GREEK issues...

Dag........
 

I guess people should pledge either Zeta or Sigma because ALL of the OTHER greeks don't know how to act.

Theo14 you are so right when you state:
"its amazing how some of the people who use these forums can be so naive and sheltered" :rolleyes:

Funny how none of the incidents you cite involve Zetas or Sigmas in a negative light. Now, don't get me wrong. I got love for all, but I am hard-pressed to believe that 7 out of 9 organizations contribute to disharmony among Greeks while ZPBS is just chillin on the sidelines ready to bring on the unity. Let's be real about the situation.

I have to agree with Soror AKA2D'91 - people will be people, regardless. If a girl would have slept with somebody else's boyfriend before, slapping three letters on her chest will hardly change her. If you've been quick to fight all your life, will that change once you join an organization? Doubt it.

You claim you have been grossly misinterpreted in the past, so let me apologize in advance if I've taken anything you said out of context. But I'm curious to know what's really behind this topic. Are you one of those people that just contends that "greek unity" will not/does not/should not exist, or is "greek unity" something you are striving for?

1.
zeta and sigmas are not perfect, dont get me wrong, im sure we have our negative ways, personally, i just havent ran into any, on my campus, sigma were the biggest, (besides delta), brightest and the ideal fraternity on campus, black or white, and this is the honest truth, whether one believes it or not....
we had the highest GPA, won 7 of the last 9 step shows, and adopted 3 parks and 2 highway strips, our sleep out event raised the most money of any single (not combined, like the white greek philanthopies) service event of any fraternity of sorority....
SO i dont need to sit here and prove anything, or actions speak louder than any message board words

2. My point is....
There is no greek unity, and im sick of people getting on these boards, saying "unity this and unity that" and these are the same people who are talking shyt the next minute....
My point....
lets stop wasting time trying crying about greek unity, we need to be worrying about empowering our communities...worry about stopping the killing of 14 year old teens in major cities, or kids becoming preganat at age 11...shyt like that.....

I could care less if an alpha, kappa or que likes me....
Now i hav friends who are greek and they were my friends before greekdom and will be after greekdom, will probably be in my wedding etc, but we are not wasting our time trying to unify sigma and kappa, or alpha and que, know damn well we will never be unified, we are out there doing things in our respective grad chapters and such.....
in my investment club, we rarely bring up greekdom, because being greek will not make you money, we discuss issues as men, black men first and foremost......

My girl is a Delta and we have this conversation all the time....
but what it comes down to...
is...
this is my opinion, and that is her opinion, and its all about respecting each others opinion...

hey theo
 

I hit you up a while back

you wanted to holla at me

schizo1914@hotmail.com

i'd venture to say those things are a little more important than greek unity.