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Trey_P-I_47 05-30-2007 03:03 AM
Yeah I was under the impression that PB had the same notion as the OP, that most (NOT ALL) women arent looking for the 'nice' guy, they just skip right over them and head for the bad ass out of the group. So what does that tell the nice, southern gentleman fella, 'hey I need to change my antics and start treating women like dirt', now instead of one dick, you have 3 or 4 more. It just doesnt make any sense, and the saddest thing is that this post is originally about 5 years old, and the same situation applies. I mean I can understand the maturity level thing, but heck, women are supposed to be ahead of men in the maturity level by like 4 or 5 years, so why are they acting like they just got out of high school? People are claiming that these women just graduated HS, or that they are freshmen, sophomores, or even juniors in college, but when you think about it, they should be having the mentality of a mid to late 20 year old by about that time. Now I also I agree with the saying that 'College is a time to have fun' but is fun something constituted by having sex with 5, 10, 15+ partners in a year? (Wow that just went against all 'guy' principles) Or can you have as much fun alternate ways, I mean I can party all weekend long and remain loyal to my girl friend with out her being there. I can also have fun by participating in other events, I mean even though philanthropies and community service sometimes involve work, it is also a good time to goof off and have fun.

I guess all we are saying is that we are brought up to believe that females are supposed to be more advanced maturity wise, when realistically alot (Again NOT ALL) of them still dont know whats going on. It was evident five years ago, it is evident today, and we just want to know why?

And yes ladies, we know there are a several of the more classy and sophisticated types out there, but for some reason we just have a hard time finding you, and apparently you finding us.

Trey_P-I_47 05-30-2007 03:08 AM
On a side note, I may have just realized what a can of worms I just opened, and am probably going to get raked over the coals for this one.

All I can do now is sit and take it........proceed with the thrashing ladies, just be easy on a young lad!

cheerfulgreek 05-30-2007 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1457455)
Yeah I was under the impression that PB had the same notion as the OP, that most (NOT ALL) women arent looking for the 'nice' guy, they just skip right over them and head for the bad ass out of the group. So what does that tell the nice, southern gentleman fella, 'hey I need to change my antics and start treating women like dirt', now instead of one dick, you have 3 or 4 more. It just doesnt make any sense, and the saddest thing is that this post is originally about 5 years old, and the same situation applies. I mean I can understand the maturity level thing, but heck, women are supposed to be ahead of men in the maturity level by like 4 or 5 years, so why are they acting like they just got out of high school? People are claiming that these women just graduated HS, or that they are freshmen, sophomores, or even juniors in college, but when you think about it, they should be having the mentality of a mid to late 20 year old by about that time. Now I also I agree with the saying that 'College is a time to have fun' but is fun something constituted by having sex with 5, 10, 15+ partners in a year? (Wow that just went against all 'guy' principles) Or can you have as much fun alternate ways, I mean I can party all weekend long and remain loyal to my girl friend with out her being there. I can also have fun by participating in other events, I mean even though philanthropies and community service sometimes involve work, it is also a good time to goof off and have fun.

I guess all we are saying is that we are brought up to believe that females are supposed to be more advanced maturity wise, when realistically alot (Again NOT ALL) of them still dont know whats going on. It was evident five years ago, it is evident today, and we just want to know why?

And yes ladies, we know there are a several of the more classy and sophisticated types out there, but for some reason we just have a hard time finding you, and apparently you finding us.
What about nice girls like me? It's not always the girls wanting bad boys. I've always wanted a gentleman. It seems like most guys want fast women. (not you PB) but most men do. What about that? Can you explain that to me?

Trey_P-I_47 05-30-2007 03:12 AM
Like I said we know there are a few of you out there (and I mean few), but it seems like you are non-existent, or already taken. Again, we (or at least I) am not referring to EVERY woman on the face of the earth, just stating that past experiences have lead us to the conclusion that other types of women out number the 'good' ones.

cheerfulgreek 05-30-2007 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1457460)
Like I said we know there are a few of you out there (and I mean few), but it seems like you are non-existent, or already taken. Again, we (or at least I) am not referring to EVERY woman on the face of the earth, just stating that past experiences have lead us to the conclusion that other types of women out number the 'good' ones.
Well, just so you know there are more good women out there than there are bad. There are so many men that cheat on their spouses and girlfriends that it totally makes it hard to trust men.

Trey_P-I_47 05-30-2007 03:19 AM
The only thing I can think of pertaining to your statement about 'Guys wanting faster women' is this. Guys are usually (Again not every man) simple, they want only a few things out of life, which are: Money, Sex, Food, Sleep, Recreation, and thats about it. However, sometimes there are a few guys out there that dont mind a civil conversation, that can sit there and genuinely be interested about things other than whats the quickest way into the womans pants. There are some that have enough sense to pull out your chair and push it back in, open a door not only for you, but maybe the woman with her kid struggling behind yall. There are even some that have the brains to walk on the outside (closest to the cars) when you are walking down a sidewalk, or in any other position that may be dangerous (IE Side closest to the water, in near a lake or river). I guess its just really hard to find the 'good' people in the opposite sexes.

cheerfulgreek 05-30-2007 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1457463)
The only thing I can think of pertaining to your statement about 'Guys wanting faster women' is this. Guys are usually (Again not every man) simple, they want only a few things out of life, which are: Money, Sex, Food, Sleep, Recreation, and thats about it. However, sometimes there are a few guys out there that dont mind a civil conversation, that can sit there and genuinely be interested about things other than whats the quickest way into the womans pants. There are some that have enough sense to pull out your chair and push it back in, open a door not only for you, but maybe the woman with her kid struggling behind yall. There are even some that have the brains to walk on the outside (closest to the cars) when you are walking down a sidewalk, or in any other position that may be dangerous (IE Side closest to the water, in near a lake or river). I guess its just really hard to find the 'good' people in both sexes.
Trey, I'm not totally against your posts, I just want you to see a woman's point of view too.

Trey_P-I_47 05-30-2007 03:33 AM
I understand and I see where you are going with this, but I had to post on this topic because I was thinking along the same lines of the OP just a day or so ago.

PrettyBoy 05-30-2007 10:28 AM
Trey- Man, your post was perfect. There's no way I could have said it better myself. Everything you've posted on this thread I'm backing you 110%. Like you said I've always been the guy to pull out her chair, help her with her coat, walk on the side of the side walk closest to traffic, open the doors for her, ect ect. That's how I was raised and that's all I've ever seen my dad do for my mom. Most women today would call me a doormat though and I'm the total opposite. You mentioned that the women on here are going to thrash you. LOL. Don't worry I got your back man. I guess it's you and me against them. :D

christiangirl- The fact that you would consider dating me based on my past posts, I find that flattering and I thank you, but based on your last post on this thread, you probably wouldn't like me very much. I say this because no I'm not a doormat nor am I a push over, but I am very nice and I respect women. Based on your last post on this thread alone it seems like you automatically associate a nice guy with a doormat like most women do. I say that because no one mentioned push over or doormat, but since bad boy was mentioned, you mentioned push over/doormat. I just took that as you meaning that to be the opposite of a bad boy. You mentioned the last guy you were with was a push over based on you testing him and trying him, just to get a reaction out of him. That's all fine and dandy, but me personally, if a woman ever tried me or tested me because she thought I was being to much of a nice guy or whatever, I would just keep it simple stupid and dump her on the spot. That's a game to me. I don't play games with women, and I wouldn't like her to play games with me. I see that as a problem so I think the best way to eliminate that problem is to leave her and move on to the next woman. I'm not a very argumentative person at all, I'm very calm. This doesn't make me a doormat and I damn sure am not a push over. Too me, I consider a bad boy a punk. He's weak, and not a man.

cheerfulgreek-Question for you. You mentioned men cheating and how it's hard for women to trust men. I don't disagree with you, but my question for you is why is it when men cheat, a lot the women they cheat on tend to take them back? I had mentioned this same thing in the cheating thread, and the women on that thread agreed with me. Why is this? If the dude isn't cheating, a lot of times women will kick this joker to the curb. This is no personal attack because you mentioned this on several of your post, so it's already out here on GC. You mentioned that your X cheated on you and you took the silly joker back. You said you dumped him shortly after that which is cool, but my question is why did you take him back in the 1st place. You're a beautiful woman, so I can't understand why you would take a dumb joker like that back. So why do women take these men back only to have it happen again?

christiangirl 05-31-2007 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1457542)
Based on your last post on this thread alone it seems like you automatically associate a nice guy with a doormat like most women do. I say that because no one mentioned push over or doormat, but since bad boy was mentioned, you mentioned push over/doormat. I just took that as you meaning that to be the opposite of a bad boy.
I think you read too much into that. I don't associate a nice guy with a doormat. What I mentioned was just my personal experience that I was adding to the conversation. This man in particular was a doormat because he made it a point to never argue with me. He abandoned every single belief, moral, want, and wish so that he could always agree with me (thinking that was what I wanted) and that got on my last nerve. I don't think the opposite of a bad boy is a doormat, not at all. The opposite of a bad boy is a good man. I just don't want a man to worry so much about being nice and respectful to me, that he stops respecting himself, as has been my experience. And I wasn't trying him that day--I was so tired of having a jellyfish for a companion, that I totally blew up at him. It wasn't a test, we were just having a fight, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1457455)
And yes ladies, we know there are a several of the more classy and sophisticated types out there, but for some reason we just have a hard time finding you, and apparently you finding us.
That's it. That's exactly it. Good women want good men and Good men want good women. WHY CAN'T THE TWO FIND EACH OTHER? People don't usually think, "I want someone intelligent, so I go scope out the library." Or I want someone who cares about her community, so I'll look for women at my next service project. " When people are actively seeking a partner, they often look while their out at the club or some other social place. However, these are the places where everyone is in "player mode." Maybe it's all about location. :confused:

AlethiaSi 05-31-2007 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1457450)
I see your point, though. A lot of girls at my school are like that, but that many more are not. On the contrary, I like a man who can respectfully hold his own. I HATE PUSHOVERS. Lol, if I ever told my husband to leave the comfort of his own bedroom that he pays half the mortgage for and go sleep on the couch and he ACTUALLY DID IT, I'd completely lose respect for him. My ex was such a yes-man, that we ended up fighting about it. I found myself screaming, "FIGHT WITH ME! TELL ME NO! SAY I'M WRONG! SOMETHING!!!" When I finally pissed him off and he argued back, it was the sexiest I'd ever seen him (and that's saying alot, old boy was uglier than Shrek). I have a very forceful personality and am the type who steps over the line every so often. I want a man who will check me on it, because I'd check him in a heartbeat if he crossed the line with me. So no, I don't want an idiot who treats me badly. But if treating me like a queen means being a doormat, then I'll walk straight over him and onto the next guy.
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL! wow! my ex was such a doormat, it drove me crazy, i didn't want to argue with him, but i wanted him to stand up for himself, i lost a lot of respect for him because he'd just let me steamroll over him. He was younger and I definately had/ (and still have) a dominate personality, and I think these factors added up over time. I wish i could explain it...:o

cheerfulgreek 06-01-2007 04:25 AM
cheerfulgreek-Question for you. You mentioned men cheating and how it's hard for women to trust men. I don't disagree with you, but my question for you is why is it when men cheat, a lot the women they cheat on tend to take them back? I had mentioned this same thing in the cheating thread, and the women on that thread agreed with me. Why is this? If the dude isn't cheating, a lot of times women will kick this joker to the curb. This is no personal attack because you mentioned this on several of your post, so it's already out here on GC. You mentioned that your X cheated on you and you took the silly joker back. You said you dumped him shortly after that which is cool, but my question is why did you take him back in the 1st place. You're a beautiful woman, so I can't understand why you would take a dumb joker like that back. So why do women take these men back only to have it happen again?

It's like I said before. I took him back because I thought I could make it work. I already told you why he cheated and I don't feel comfortable posting that. Plus, I felt that since I never cheated on him, he would realize that he had a faithful girl, and I think he eventually did. What he did, he didn't consider cheating, but I consider that cheating. I only took him back for a few days and I just couldn't get it off of my mind that he cheated so I broke up with him. I know I shouldn't have taken him back, but I made a mistake. I'm a lot smarter now and I know a good guy when I see one.

Trey_P-I_47 06-01-2007 06:12 PM
Thats another thing I meant to add, people have to make mistakes and learn from them on their own. No matter what people close to you say, you pretty much have to figure things out for yourself, but on the same note, you cant keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again. At some point you have to realize that this is wrong and its not working for you, and LEARN from it, and then apply your new found knowledge and wisdom the next time.

It seems to me that this scenario is exactly what Cheerfulgreek did, she made a mistake, acknowledged it, LEARNED from it, and now she pretty much knows not to let it happen again.:D


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