Third round (from 12 to 8 parties) and fourth round (8 to 3)

Some recruitment stats through 2014:

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Thank you so much...just what I needed to see.

Some other U of A stats from Fall 2014 recruitment:

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...psarhaw8e5.jpg

The percentages receiving a bid count from how many attended the first round (though I notice some numbers may be off by a few). This number does count PNMs who withdrew or were released before pref.

In other words, 91% of the PNMs who attended Open House received a bid. The 17 who did not receive a bid following pref did not maximize their options.

One other stat of potential interest that I didn't see reflected in either of the other tables is that a total of 97 upperclassmen matched in 2014 Formal Recruitment. Upperclassmen matched to 15 of the 16 chapters participating in formal recruitment, and number of upperclassmen per chapter ranged from 2 to 10.

(didn't see a reason to post entire table for just ^that)

I was looking at the table above, and thinking about all of the times we have PNMs coming here worried about being from out of state, and if that affects their chances of getting a bid when competing against In State girls. According to the table, there were 599 In State PNMs (with 94% placement rate) and 1677 Out of State PNMs (with 89% placement rate).

While certain sororities may have greater percentages of In State students, I would guess that if an OOS PNM keeps an open mind, that status will not significantly affect getting a bid.

Also, it looks as if a larger percentage of the Out of State females sign up for Recruitment than In State females. I wonder why more of the In State girls are not signing up?

"While certain sororities may have greater percentages of In State students, I would guess that if an OOS PNM keeps an open mind, that status will not significantly affect getting a bid."

I think the "certain sororities" part often is just the problem with so many OOS PNMs going through recruitment at so many schools. Because often the most popular, "cool" in the minds of many (as a matter-of-fact, not an endorsement at all) sororities have the largest percentage of In State students, so many PNMs, OOS and otherwise, feel they should get a bid from one of those sororities or no sororities. And if they don't get a bid from one of those sororities, they often feel that ISS have an unfair edge. I think the biggest key towards helping so many OOS overcome the phobia they have about getting a bid may be to help get them to think that all sororities are great to get a bid from. Realistically, that is easier said than done with so many. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying! Just my un-expert take.

Does upperclassmen mean sophomores and above or juniors and above in this instance?

Sophomores and above at Alabama

RFM is about 10 years old....I think....

I am going to hazard a guess as to why the withdrawal numbers are getting lower. 1. More OOS students going through recruitment who don't know/care about Old Row and New Row or reputations in general. These girls are less likely to drop based on reputations. 2. The chapters are becoming more equal due to a combination of RFM and OOS state students, so there is less disparity between the "top" chapters and the "bottom" chapters. 3. The reputation of just how brutal recruitment is at Bama is well known. Women know the likelihood of a successful sophomore re-recruitment is slim to none. So as Tim Gunn would say they are making it work.

I am not an expert on SEC recruitment, but I think these three reasons are a pretty good start on why the number of withdrawals is going down.

I think that should be the takeaway -- the numbers look VERY favorable to freshmen OOS PNMs. Withdrawing with plans to rush later looks very UNfavorable for any PNM.

Even sororities that have historically been in-state strongholds have a majority of OOS new members. Here is a thread on the topic from 2 years ago with the numbers by chapter (and a good piece of advice for OOS PNMs):

Out of State? You CAN have a successful recruitment at Alabama

Just a guess -- cost, among other factors. The in-state enrollment has not really been increasing. Many in-state females may be attending because they need or want to attend an in-state school, while many OOS females may be drawn to Greek life as part of the big SEC campus atmosphere, especially if attending a school in their state with a similar atmosphere doesn't look promising. Not to mention that many of the OOS students are arriving with scholarships.

Article from last September:

Alabamians now a minority at UA

The first few recs I wrote for Alabama, over the past 3 years, were all for very high achieving, 32+ ACT score PNMs who were merit scholarship recipients...their strengths definitely were in academics, and they received bids. This year, I've written 3 times as many, for much more "average" academic PNMs, but they are all very attractive and seem to be drawn to the southern sorority experience. They're not receiving big scholarships. I'm curious to see how the trend continues, because I've gone from no rec writing to a few recs for high achievers, to a snowballing of requests -- to the point where our APH finally got involved this year and actually divvied out rec requests and actively sought to find alumnae from unrepresented groups.

Just saw some photos of the brand spanking new GPhiB house. Spectacular!

I'm probably biased but it's gorgeous! Completely blew me out of the water when I saw it in person yesterday for the first time. I've seen the sketches but being there just - wow. I'm so proud to be a Gphi.

Link please? As. Someone who didn't have a house I love seeing them!

It was on a friend's FB acct.

I saw them on an Alpha Gam's FB account- her daughter went Gamma Phi at Bama in Fall '13.

You can do a search for Gamma Phi Beta - Alabama house and get some drawings, some construction pictures, etc on various sites.

https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...95&oe=56513343

House exterior


https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0f&oe=5659AEE7

Exterior close


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Grand foyer


https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...67&oe=56436822

Marble crest in the foyer floor


https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...24&oe=56464DA7

Lounge area


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Coffee shop


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Theater room


Photo credits to my Big Sister, GPhiBLtColonel, who was able to attend the grand opening! :cool:

These are incredible! The girls are completely blessed to have a house like this. If I show this thread to darling daughter she will want to add Bama back to her application list, and I just got her whittled down to three.

OH MY GOD IT'S SO CUTE!!!

That house is amazing. LOVE the coffee shop!

That house is amazing! How many women can live in?

I think 70, but not sure. I'll ask.

72

Am not sure about AXO's (40,000 SF also) but think it's near that and DDD's is 74 - I think...big houses down here! Not sure about the capacity of the next ones - KKG and Phi Mu.

Your house is just fabulous! Enjoyed the pics!

Well, I just saw on al.com that so far 2,442 girls have signed up for Panhellenic recruitment at the Capstone. And that more could sign up today. It just never ceases to amaze me, the sheer interest size year after year of being socially greek at Alabama! The University Greek Affairs office really has something to be proud of!

Also on al.com -- sneak peek of the new KD house:

http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2..._the_glam.html

Fabulous!

Lovely!

Didn't they keep the front end of the old house? Seems someone told me that. And it's very reminiscent of the DG house with the porch...but different because of the shutters. Each house there is so similar but different - with a couple of exceptions...

So, PNMs have to decide ahead of time which 16 houses they will go to? They don't visit every house?

There are only 16 chapters that participate in formal recruitment, there are 26 time slots so the parties aren't so crowded. PNMs will have breaks in their days.

Thank you, dear ... I've been having some health issues for the past two years and thought I had missed a significant change.

It is my understanding that the front of the old house (as well as the house) had to be torn down and rebuilt to scale -- very much with the intention of having that end look like the old house still on its original spot.

The KD house carried over its Georgian look and the DG house also has a beautiful architecturally classic look, though these two look very different to me while still cohesive in design to the "neighborhood" (which is perfect, IMO).

2437 at Convo last night!