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ConfettiCupcake 06-11-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2317484)
The alum had the party......she issued the invitation to only female graduates...not female graduates signed up for recruitment - just female graduates...though I'm sure the OP will come back with one more clarification to make it all fall in line better...which screams troll....

I totally agree. I am a junior and nothing about this girl sounds like me or my sisters or friends. No one I know talks like this. This is a mom or a troll or a momtroll!!! So weird.

AZTheta 06-11-2015 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Size_Small (Post 2317486)
I would suggest you read my explanation of the party more closely then because all of the graduated seniors who were invited were all going to go through rush. I am not "making up details" to suit my narrative. That's frankly quite insulting.

It seems from the beginning that you are laser-sighted on trying to prove me a fraud or get me to shut up. Your main complaint with me asking this question is "you are a PNM, you don't know anything." I have received a lot of well-meaning advice from other GC ladies in the form of replies to the OP and in the form of PMs. For what reason would I "troll?" I am not religious so I have no pastor to talk to, for obvious reasons I can't talk about this to my friends, my mom is not a member of a GLO, and Greekrank is (for also obvious reasons) a terrible source. I tried using a wonderful resource called Google, but could not find queries similar to mine. GC seems the best resource.I have read GC for the past year, looking for advice and getting excited by Recruitment Stories. Now that it's my turn to go through recruitment, I thought it wise to utalize my resources. While again I thank the ladies who take the time to be helpful to me, I am very disappointed in how things have devolved between us Titchou. If you doubt so much my intentions, might I suggest you no longer continue commenting on this post? If I am truly a troll, I will stop when I have no more attention. I have tried PM-ing you to see where I have gone wrong and where I can make amends but that seems to be unfruitful.

IMO, it's probably best for you to just step away from the keyboard, Size_Small. You have gotten what you asked for (based on what you wrote, above) and there really isn't any point in prolonging this. KSUViolet had a pretty on-target take on your "throwing shade without trying to look like that's what you're doing" (I'm paraphrasing); so why not quit while you can?

Size_Small 06-11-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2317487)
TBH, I think you need to forget about this party and any others you may go to before recruitment actually happens. And by forget about I mean, stop letting it weigh so heavily on your conscious. Wait until recruitment starts, see how you feel at houses, see where you get invited back, and go where you feel most comfortable. Period end. Unless you're blatantly trying to screw PNMs over, 'dirty rushing' and a lot of the PHC rules (see melon baller example above) don't really matter.

Yes, you're right. I actually meant to end everything back at post #19 where I said I'd do essentially what you just advised here! However, someone asked about the recruitment party, I responded, and the whole circus started up again. Like I've said in post #19, I'll go into recruitment with an open heart, and if I ever get the chance to choose, I'll "choose" the one that I love the most, regardless of its flaws.

On principle, breaking rules (even if I benefit) matters to me (except when it comes to the aesthetics of fruit.

Trust me, I don't speak "like this" either. Speaking and writing are two very separate things. Don't I wish I had the ability to think on a response for 10 minutes and make use of a backspace IRL!

Size_Small 06-11-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2317490)
IMO, it's probably best for you to just step away from the keyboard, Size_Small. You have gotten what you asked for (based on what you wrote, above) and there really isn't any point in prolonging this. KSUViolet had a pretty on-target take on your "throwing shade without trying to look like that's what you're doing" (I'm paraphrasing); so why not quit while you can?

Yes, I think you're right. I just have an impulse to respond to slights against me, and I admit that I did get quite frustrated when people imply that I am a liar or fraud. I thought that I wrapped up my thoughts a deal earlier but then someone asked "your schools hosts recruitment parties?" (Also paraphrasing), I said no, and I explained it fully. Someone else asked "do others do it?" I said no, and explained myself. Then others commented on my account of the party and called me a troll, so I replied to clarify and defend myself. I have only continued posting because others asked for clarification, certainly not because I want to throw shade (at an imaginary target at that). But I am done for good! Thank you again for all the ladies who were helpful. This will be my last post on the topic - I promise! If anyone has any more questions, please PM. Have a good Summer everyone :D

AZTheta 06-12-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Size_Small (Post 2317492)
Yes, I think you're right. I just have an impulse to respond to slights against me, and I admit that I did get quite frustrated when people imply that I am a liar or fraud. I thought that I wrapped up my thoughts a deal earlier but then someone asked "your schools hosts recruitment parties?" (Also paraphrasing), I said no, and I explained it fully. Someone else asked "do others do it?" I said no, and explained myself. Then others commented on my account of the party and called me a troll, so I replied to clarify and defend myself. I have only continued posting because others asked for clarification, certainly not because I want to throw shade (at an imaginary target at that). But I am done for good! Thank you again for all the ladies who were helpful. This will be my last post on the topic - I promise! If anyone has any more questions, please PM. Have a good Summer everyone :D

OK look:

1) first bold, above - stop. Or you'll be exhausted before you're 21 and your life will suck even more than you ever thought possible. 99% of what you think are "slights against you" are nothing of the sort. And it takes two to engage, rage, etc. So be the big person and just stop. There are better things to do with your time.

2) "imaginary target"? Hardly. You said you were talking about a sorority at your upcoming campus, and very real actives and alums. Go back and read what KSUViolet wrote.

Let's see if you stick to your resolve that the above was your last post. Benefit of the doubt: wishing you the best of luck at recruitment (imaginary or not). :p

Nanners52674 06-12-2015 01:36 PM

I guess I can understand why someone might prefer to not join a house that dirty rushes. However, no one on GC can make this decision for you.

If the way this sorority is reaching out to you you don't like then don't go to the events.

You seem to be very caught up on the words "dirty rushing" and I'm not sure why. I just get a feeling that your looking to confirm they are dirty rushing and then do what with that info?

33girl 06-12-2015 02:26 PM

The problem is if she doesn't go to the events she is invited to it could be construed as rude or snobbish.

Titchou 06-12-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2317506)
The problem is if she doesn't go to the events she is invited to it could be construed as rude or snobbish.

Well, if she's not interested in them because they are dirty rushing, then it doesn't matter if they think she's rude or snobbish, n'est pas?

shadokat 06-12-2015 02:44 PM

Titchou, I agree with what 33girl is saying. What if she's going to a school with 5 sororities, and all 5 are going to have some sort of this pre-rush soiree. If she declines them all, they may wonder if she's at all serious about joining. We don't know the culture (ok, I don't know the culture). So now she's shot herself in the foot for any chance of joining on her campus, all because she didn't attend these pre-rush parties? I will never understand the south and sororities.

Also, as much as she's been called a troll or a mom or a momtroll or throwing shade, she has brought up something that I never heard of and I thought was interesting and worth discussing, and I'm not the only one who had that opinion, as this thread is 4 pages long. I am glad she has decided to stop posting and I hope whatever she does, she's happy with her decision. But maybe we, myself included, can all ease up a little to learn something new!

IndianaSigKap 06-12-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Size_Small (Post 2317346)
Hello ladies of GC!

I will be attending an SEC university in the fall, and while it does not have a crazy Alabama-like competitive rush, it's not a cake walk either.

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2317508)
Titchou, I agree with what 33girl is saying. What if she's going to a school with 5 sororities, and all 5 are going to have some sort of this pre-rush soiree.

There is no SEC school with only 5 sororities as far as I know, and I feel fairly safe in saying that if even one or two or a small handful of chapters on any given campus do sponsor events like she has described, not every chapter would do so.

irishpipes 06-12-2015 10:41 PM

Parties like those described are common where I live. Not every group does that kind of unofficial pre-rushing by alums, but a handful do, and they are all prestigious groups in this area.

choabet 06-13-2015 11:44 AM

I love this thread so much I have come out of hibernation. This is so clearly a
mom with an ax to grind. So dear OP, back away from the keyboard. Your daughter is going to be mortally embarrassed at a minimum or singled out during recruitment as a result. You are digging in deep.

als463 06-13-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by choabet (Post 2317551)
I love this thread so much I have come out of hibernation. This is so clearly a
mom with an ax to grind. So dear OP, back away from the keyboard. Your daughter is going to be mortally embarrassed at a minimum or singled out during recruitment as a result. You are digging in deep.

Agreed. Any chapter that gets this girl in recruitment is probably going to have a real trouble maker on their hands.

navane 06-13-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2317508)
Titchou, I agree with what 33girl is saying. What if she's going to a school with 5 sororities, and all 5 are going to have some sort of this pre-rush soiree. If she declines them all, they may wonder if she's at all serious about joining. We don't know the culture (ok, I don't know the culture). So now she's shot herself in the foot for any chance of joining on her campus, all because she didn't attend these pre-rush parties? I will never understand the south and sororities.

Tagging on to what you said - if all 5 sororities are holding pre-rush soirees, then is it really "dirty rushing"? Or is a party only "dirty" if the refreshments are nicer than the ones served at another sorority's event?


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Originally Posted by choabet
I love this thread so much I have come out of hibernation. This is so clearly a mom with an ax to grind. So dear OP, back away from the keyboard. Your daughter is going to be mortally embarrassed at a minimum or singled out during recruitment as a result. You are digging in deep.


Oy, before I had read all of the new posts in the thread, I too began to think to myself that the OP sounded like a mom posing as the daughter. :o If so, then I don't understand why she would be so wrapped up in worry about "dirty rushing" by one particular alum or sorority. The only thing I can think of (wildly speculating) would be that mom is a sorority member and she's upset that another sorority is putting on the ritz for pre-rush parties. Or, if not in a sorority, then she's just confused and weirded out about how sorority life operates. OP, if you are a high school girl, then yes I agree with the others that the way you "speak" online sounds "different" and that may stand out at recruitment.

<shrug> This whole thread seems odd to me. :confused:

For my part, nothing that the OP has described, from the 4-course meal to the light discussions on "I hope we will see you on bid day" and "Oh, Suzy sister is also an accounting major too!", sounds "dirty" to me. Going to a graduation party and having someone's mom order a catered lunch is not considered a recruitment infraction for purchasing a meal for a PNM.

OP, I kindly state that you seem to be over-thinking about the graduation party and seem to be grossly misunderstanding both the spirit and letter of recruitment rules. Like another member said, if you feel that the sorority members' actions have pushed the boundaries and that those behaviors are in conflict with your personal values and your personal interpretation of recruitment rules, by all means, you have the right to mark this particular sorority down as the lowest rank on your card each night of recruitment and/or not accept a bid from them if offered. Just go with the flow on each day of recruitment and keep that open mind. Good luck.

shadokat 06-13-2015 09:23 PM

The only part of the story that is creepy is the God wants you to join our chapter. None of this is commonplace in my area, but it is fascinating nonetheless.

exlurker 06-14-2015 05:11 PM

Wasn't there a major scene (and plot point) in Eating The Cheshire Cat by Helen Ellis that portrayed a -- fictional -- pre-recruitment party thrown by an alumna to check out or "push" girls who might be suitable for one particular sorority at Alabama?

While fiction, and undoubtedly exaggerated, I think it at least reflected a practice that's not unfamiliar in the Southern sorority world.

navane 06-14-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by exlurker (Post 2317617)
Wasn't there a major scene (and plot point) in Eating The Cheshire Cat by Helen Ellis that portrayed a -- fictional -- pre-recruitment party thrown by an alumna to check out or "push" girls who might be suitable for one particular sorority at Alabama?

While fiction, and undoubtedly exaggerated, I think it at least reflected a practice that's not unfamiliar in the Southern sorority world.


This thread reminds me of this one goofy movie I saw a few years back called "Sorority Wars" where a couple of alum moms (Courtney Thorne Smith) were pushing this one daughter, a legacy, to join a "top tier" sorority and she wanted to be in a different sorority.

This is it here: http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay...tt_pv_vi_aiv_1

Sciencewoman 06-14-2015 07:44 PM

That movie has been running on Lifetime lately. Hmmm.... I just watched part of it today, and thought the same thing. I'd never seen it before. The moms were ACTIVE alumnae of the same sorority...one had a daughter who joined the legacy sorority and then another one's daughter "tattled" on them during recruitment for some infraction (missed what it was, only picked up that she had tattled and incurred much wrath) and ended up joining their rival sorority.


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