Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More hostility....
 

Not to sound HOSTILE or anything but let me ask you this question. Do you think by making this statement,



is you adding to that theory of non black unity? This is a bold staement. I respect your views because I don't know what struggles with blacks you've endured. Don't you think that generalizing all blacks like that is wrong?

Must be a Jersey thing
 

Oh well...that must be a Jersey thing.....

Who knows....:(

You see....
 

I'm not generalizing all Blacks, not at all. Black folx are OK with me.

And I'm not trying to add to the disunity either.

If you want a better idea of Black disunity, scroll down to "Greek-Alliances for Party Purposes" and "Famous Innaccurate BGLO Members", and there you will find all the Black disunity you need.

Peace, Blessings and Happy Passover! :)
Thank You for Responding Dexter and Happydays!

Question at Hand
 

Well...back to our regular posted program. I'm not a member...I'm really extremely busy with my career, junior achievement, the bar association, NABA, NMBAA and etc.,.


I do try to to contribute financially though when I can....

No so-called "races" stick together. To say that blacks dont implies that all other races do, and that is a falsehood. That mentality contributes to old (but still believed) ideas that we are a backward people.

Wow this is an amazingly silly argument.

We all know that there are plenty of black people just like StarLightGirl, and as long as she is not in your life, why do you care? Her opinions, whatever they are, are hers and hardly worth getting in a snit about. Let it goooooo!:rolleyes:

Starlight,

you know nada about BGLO's because you are not a member or an interest. Sorry but from the outside it's not something you will get. I suggest you keep your little comments about unity on these boards to yourself because you know nothing about what you are seeing here as it applies to real life. :rolleyes:

Because obviously one of our black sisters has concerns. f there is anything that I can say or suggest to her that will give her enlightment, then need to at least try to dscuss the issue with her.

Re: Must be a Jersey thing
 

LOL - A Jersey thing. What perplexes me is that Jersey City has a large Black population!


"In fact, Blacks don't even stick together and love EACH OTHER. That is why we are in the sad state we are in today and will never accomplish what we set out (and need) to do".

And nonBlacks all stick together! Come on! If you ever listen to conservative and nonconservative radio programs, you will hear whites bashing each other. Whites and other races do not all think alike.


"Because obviously one of our black sisters has concerns. f there is anything that I can say or suggest to her that will give her enlightment, then need to at least try to dscuss the issue with her".

The only way that she will be enlighten is when her "support group" turns on her. Actual experiences are more effective in changing people than merely talking to someone.


#7 Snuggles
DST - 12/93

I'm actually sort of torn about how to feel about Starlight. In a way I am happy that she feels the way she does in another I am extremely saddened by it.

I am saddened that you feel that you cannot connect with other African Americans.

However, because I would never wish ill will on anyone I am happy that you have not been hurt by the wake up call that is sure to come soon. Unfortunately sometimes the later it comes the worse it is.

Ain't that the truth!!

Umm, I was a financial member of the NAACP, and am currently NOT because it's current national president has five children from four different women and he's never been married. Why should I be involved with an organization whose leader, in my opinion, has no moral authority? Now, if he had MARRIED somebody and helped RAISED somebody else's children, it wouldn't be an issue. But how can the leader of an organization not recognize that his personal life would not be an issue? Again, there are alot of people who have children out of wedlock and don't take care of them, but should the leader of a NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, whose purpose is to uplift the race, have wrecked so much havoc on it and be part of a problem that is destroying our community? (children raised in a home where there biological fathers aren't involved) I'm so past his, I was a young and stupid and then I turned my life around and became a contributing member of the community and was in a congressman, bull**it. What the hell was going in his CHILDREN'S LIVES when he decided HE WAS GOING TO TURN HIS LIFE AROUND, he had children who depended on him, but he was too busy becoming "somebody".
Has he once indicated that now that I make $300,000 a year I'm giving my baby's momma's back child support? When he does that, when I found out he did that, or when he is no longer National President, the NAACP will see my time, talents and money once again.

And if people don't think that the moral authority of an organizations leader doesn't matter think Enron and Arthur Anderson.

Now, Soror, you know we sometimes have NOSE trouble...I know you are not talking about.....:confused:

LMAO!

:o

No soror, he never had "nose" trouble, he has, I'm making bank but my children are grown and I don't have to give their mothers any money for raising them because they are men now disease, sometimes known as the sooo I don't have to pay them child support because they are not children disease. His *ss should reimburse the federal government if those women every had to apply for public assistance.

Hmm, this has got me thinking....maybe I'll send him a letter asking if he has ever considered his lack of personal responsibility a factor in the declining attendance of the NAACP

Sister Jody I get what you are saying but the NAACP is bigger than any one person! Please don't get caught up because of someone else's lack of responsibility. In fact, I don't even know if your statement is true. However,I have always said that men need to take care of their children even if they are not married to the mother and that involves more than child support. The NAACP does not belong to any one person.

Professor, you're absolutely correct, the NAACP is larger than one person... Brother man had a five page spread in Ebony about five years ago, which is about the time I stopped reading that magazine. I have always believed that people in authority should be held to a higher standard, even while the baseline standard is high.

Jody's right, Professor....
 

Ummmm - - - Seemingly the Brother has a good game! But what is the issue. Is it the fact that the public is aware of all these babies he has fathered. Is the issue that single women that birth babies and unmarried men that father children have no morals - come on! If the real issue is morality because folk have children without being married then I know teachers, doctors, lawyers, construction workers, preachers frat brothers and sorority sisters that fit the build. Now if you can prove to me that he has kids and don't pay child support - and that's really a private matter - then my view may change.

Kwiesi Mfume is a graduate of my alma mata-Morgan State University. Everyone that goes to Morgan is exposed to Mr. Mfume and the integrity that he has. Yes, he has five sons from four different women. But what you don't know is that he grew up a thug and gangster in Baltimore and turned his life around. Two of his sons also attended Morgan while I was there. One of them told me that having Kwiesi as his father is the greatest blessing ever. Because his father not only takes care of all of them, but sets an example of what hard work and education can do for young black men. His only mission is to serve his people in the same manner as Martin and Malcolm. So there it is straight from the horses lips. So before you attack his character, get to know something about the man.

na, na, nanaa,na!
 

Good shyt Bruh!:D

All this man-bashin' is killin' me!

Thank you for that!!!!!

Back to the original topic,

I'm a financial member of the NAACP and a member of the Executive Board in my university . I feel that this organization does great things to empower our community. For all those who say that the organization is reactive instead of proactive, consider that an organization is only as good as the sum of its part. If each financial member were an active member, the NAACP would be unstoppable. And for Mr. Mfume's character, I have no right or interest in his personal life as long as it's legal activities. He's human like me so who am I to judge.

ttt for 2007.

I am not currently member, but i am re-evaluating that decision.

A question of membership
 

As Neos at my college chapter, we were expected to become members of the NAACP, to further our fraternity's commitment to working for and in our community. It was a great expectation in my opinion because, we not only worked for Alpha and the NAACP, but we were also able to be exploratively representative of what the past presence of Alpha was like in that great organization especially since APhiA was strongly connected to it, since its inception. Now, once we became Prophytes, then us sustaining that membership was purely up to us, and some Bruhs stayed connected, and some didn't.
I do however think that the NAACP would benefit from working to use the new technological tools in the world to boost up membership. In my opinion, they don't do enough to attract members. It's the 21st century, so to me, they need to bring their recruitment efforts into our current day.

7th

Am not currently a member. Thinking about it more and more now as I enter the professional world (where, by the way, I see less and less of my people :-( )

However, like others on here I am not interested in paying money just to say I'm a part of something. I honestly am trying to figure out where my place is in this as a young black leader. I am from the rural South so I have seen the struggle firsthand growing up, and of course have been raised around people who lived through segregation and desegregation.... But what about NOW? What exactly is the NAACP fighting for in 2007?

The only thing I could think of was the Martin Lee Anderson death here in FL. While it was a tragedy, and I'm glad it got the attention it did, I guess I'd just like to see more things to uplift our people from the NAACP instead of only reacting to highly publicized incidents of injustice. Maybe more community involvement, educational activities, and real dialogue between black leaders on how to improve things on a local level.

Just my humble opinion here. It was a long-winded answer to your question, but it's something that has been on my mind for a minute.

Membership is Power
 

The Florida State Conference is very active. I'm not sure what your local branch may be doing but the only way for you to know is to become involved. Please don't take this as a personal attact but many folk ask me what is the NAACP doing or questions the actions of the organizations. I think if one is really committed to community service he or she knows what's going on in the community and who is doing what.

Most definitely don't take it personally. I actually thought about adding a sentence in my original post that if these things are indeed going on, then my bad, but I haven't personally seen anything. I do believe the FSU chapter was pretty active when I was an undergraduate (I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to?) but I am speaking on a city-wide and state-wide level.

I was referring to the Florida State NAACP. Go ahead and join - - - if nothing is being done locally then there is opportunity for you serve.

I had to google the Florida State Conference because I wasn't still wasn't sure what you were talking about (http://www.fscnaacpfreedomfundawards.org/) if anyone else was wondering). I noticed that their headquarters and activities are in central and southern Florida, which could be an issue since I am several hours away.

To the Professor, thanks for the info. If there are any SW. GA/S. AL/N. Fl NAACP members on here, I'd love to get a PM about your activities.

Sorry for getting off topic there...

Adora Obi Nweze (AKA) is president of the Florida State Conference. Local branches make up the Florida State Conference which meets at least twice per year. The state conference is responsible for ensuring that local branches support the mission and activities of the NAACP. The state conference provides training, technical assistance, and speaks for the Florida NAACP when local branches requests assistance.

No I am not a member and it's not from lack of trying (as it pertains to the local branch). Numerous attempts on my part were made: calling the office and stopping by the office to inquire about membership. Nothing.

I've even made attempts while working with other organizations to reach out to the NAACP so that collaborative relationships can be formed. One example: AIDSWalk took place in the city and I felt this would be a great community wide effort for the NAACP to take part in (the NAACP took a national stance on HIV/AIDS and what it is doing to our community). I sent letters and made countless phone calls in the hope of getting a response. Nothing.

My time and talents are valuable and I'm certainly not going to continue to waste them by "chasing" after this organization. I have found that it is better spent elsewhere (e.g. NCNW, Urban League, 100 Black Women).

I fully appreciate the legacy of the NAACP (as a national organization), however on a local/chapter level (in my city) it leaves a lot to be desired.

Ladylike
Well you would be surprised on the ways that you could get into contact with them such as in the church, and undergrad chapters. For example at churches, a lot of NAACP members informs both the youth and adults on both the programs and memberships.Overall, information is usually posted on the bullentin board at the church.
Also at undergrad chapters it welcomes the whole community .In addition you can gain membership online at the website and request to be member of a local chapter.
Depending on the undergrad chapter it be just as productive as the local branch. I do agree it is difficult to get in contact with some branches but the undergrad chapter can help you get in contact with them. At my school we frequently work with the local branch.

Hopefully that helps.

I am a member of the campus chapter of the NAACP and also serve as VP. I didn't join until 2004 because I didn't really hear of them being active in my community and when they did make press it was usually not in their favor. Once I joined I began to see the benefits of being a part of this organization and while I do agree that the organization needs a lot of work on all levels, it is still worthy of our support through membership.

There are two NAACP branches here--Minneapolis and St. Paul.

The internal fighting within the Minneapolis branch here keeps it from being effective. I was a member until I couldn't take it anymore. I mean it was ugly and national has had to step in a couple of times.

The St. Paul branch has had the same leadership for years and it has become complacent.

There are no campus branches.

And the two branches don't even collaborate on anything, which is stupid considering there is power in numbers and only the Mississippi River separates the two..

"Because obviously one of our black sisters has concerns. f there is anything that I can say or suggest to her that will give her enlightment, then need to at least try to dscuss the issue with her".

The only way that she will be enlighten is when her "support group" turns on her. Actual experiences are more effective in changing people than merely talking to someone.


#7 Snuggles
DST - 12/93[/QUOTE]

Soror...You took the words right out of my mouth. Great minds think alike. Wow:eek:Look at us "sticking together"...what a concept;)

FYI, the membership fee for youth and college chapters is $10.00 per year.

Please contact my frater, Rev. Dr. Charles White, at the national office. He is director of branch operations. Also, please advise him that the professor06 in NC suggested that you telephone him.

Soror...You took the words right out of my mouth. Great minds think alike. Wow:eek:Look at us "sticking together"...what a concept;)[/QUOTE]

TIme to renew my membership:D

I know it's been awhile since the last post in this thread however, I recently got into it with my S.O. about the purpose of the NAACP and what it's doing now & what purpose does it really serve.

His argument was that it's become (really, always has been) an elitist group that is not doing anything. I had nothing to counter that because I haven't really been keeping up with them and I let my membership go some time ago. I still think they have a need to be here but should re-organize, restructure etc. and just get it together in being more proactive.
Any thoughts?

I agree with your S.O. If you arent some famus person or a politicians, the NAACP has no time for you.

But also, I have a big problem withthe NAACP, the SCLC, and the Concrned Black Clergy. Besides the previous comments about themnot being proactive but reactive, what are they about?

The ONLYtime I see them on TV is when a white person does something bad to a black person. They wil be the first ones all mad onTV. But, inour community we have a large number of young girsl having multiple babies out of wedlock. I dont see the NAACP comming on TV getting mad about that. We have an outrageous number of black on black crime inthe inner city.I dont see the NAACP getting onTV mad about that. And what about gangs and trying to stop these young boys from even getting into gangs? Again, havent heard from the NAACP on that issue. BUT as soon as a white person says the N word or attacks a black person, there is the NAACP all up on the TV. If they truly cared about the black community they would be doing something to stop al the ills we have in our community. They may talk a good game but I havent seen the action.

Plus, Black people are always preaching equality and diversity and acceptance so why do we stil support an organizationinthe 21st century that has as its title the advancement of one particular race? Isnt that what out ancesters were fighting against. discrimination and the singling out of one reae Yet we do it ourselves. I dont get that concept either. You cant fight civil rights in the 21st century with 1960's tactics.

Thank you for pointing that out. I really wish they could move with the times and be a more relevant & useful organization.