I agree - these are smart young ladies! I am certain that the chapter GPAs did not look like this when I was at UGA - http://panhellenic.uga.edu/uploads/1...es_updated.pdf

As a Mom, I'm very glad that my daughter and her sisters are achieving academically, but it can make it difficult for young women who don't have the grades coming into recruitment.

I have mixed feeling about this. I understand the realities that GLOs can't take all the legacies sometimes because they have more legacies than quota. And yet, I don't blame a woman at all who rather than continue to support a chapter that cut her daughter instead gives her support to the chapter that found a place for her daughter. And let's be honest, how many of these folks were supporting the chapters in any substantive way before the daughter rushed anyway? What ties are they really cutting?

Do any of the houses COB? Where would I find out about who is doing COB Parties?
or how is it done at UGA? My niece went through this year, was a legacy and was cut by my Sorority (I did not go to UGA, but am a Sigma Kappa) -- and yes, I will still contribute/stay involved.
I think I am more upset that she didn't pledge than she is! She went to 3 pref parties but didn't feel comfortable enough with any of them to continue, so she dropped.
The houses she liked dropped her after round 2.
anyway, COB?
Do they do informal in the spring? I am guessing not.

[mini hijack]As a teacher for the past 10 years, I can absolutely guarantee that the disappointment these girls are facing IS because of the mentality that "everyone must be rewarded". I can't tell you how many times I was chastised because I REFUSED to recognize everyone. I'm not doing it to be mean, I'm doing it to be REALISTIC. We live in a world where everyone DOESN'T get the job, DOESN'T make the team, DOESN'T get whatever they truly wanted. It's called REAL LIFE. As a teacher not only am I supposed to prepare my students for the next grade based on the standards I need to teach them but I need to give them that dose of reality, because no offense parents out there, 95% of the time they ain't getting it at home. [end mini-hijack]

No recruitment system is perfect. Unfortunately girls do fall through the cracks. It happens.

You probably already know this but did your niece confirm that she did not rank and sign anything after pref? Just want to be sure that she's eligible for COB at all.

I am sorry she was dropped from SK. :( I'll leave it to UGA experts about Spring COB advice.

Supporting your daughter's chapter is one thing.. Threatening to cut all ties with your own sorority is another. Regardless of their level of involvement, they just sound petty and childish.

This reminded me of one of my favorite teachers in junior high: she had assigned seating in the class according to your grade standing in the class, and it changed every week. I would bet that many a parent wouldn't stand for this now.

On a related note, I read a really nice blog post recently about how important it is to let children experience disappointment:
http://www.musingmomma.com/2012/01/s...ppuccinos.html

I don't understand alumni who trash their house and threaten to withdraw support. If you now think your chapter is so mean, horrible, nasty, petty, slutty, druggies etc... etc...

Why would you want your legacy to join that kind of house.

COB and informal recruitment are rare at UGA, since most, if not all, chapters make quota (or quota-plus) on a regular basis. I know that some chapters had to COB the last time total was raised to hit the new total, but it is not common. A chapter might also choose to do informal to fill a spot for a senior who graduates in December (but, again, that is rare). Make sure to tell your niece to make sure that she is on whatever COB list Greek Life has, just in case.

Couple the everyone gets a trophy mentality with your first evidence of non-tropjy ness (in your eyes) going on immediate blast all over social media, and yeah, it is the perfect storm.

On another note, I'd like to see a new pledge write an article called "Dear Mom, I Got Dropped From Your Sorority And I Really Don't Care."

The tent talk at my Georgia high school (I did not go to UGA) was that unless you had someone powerful on the inside, either a current member or alum, it all came down to looks and if you were eye candy you would have no problem and if not you would have a very rough time.

I realize that you are most likely just repeating what you heard, but tons of girls who are NOT "eye candy" pledge wonderful sororities and are delighted with their recruitment experience. Not every girl wants to spend four years with eye candy or values perceived beauty above other characteristics.

The other aspect of UGA recruitment that I think makes it particularly difficult is the actual schedule. The girls start their day at 6 am dressed and ready to go. They get good or bad news regarding their party invites and head right on out to start their day bright and early. The only round that is spread over two days is first round and every day is an early start and a long, hot day. Bid day (night, really) is the first day of classes.

I had a rec girl at Alabama and their schedule of later starts (more sleep) and two days per round followed by a few days between bid day and classes seems more conducive to relaxed girls who might make different decisions regarding dropping out or staying in.

Reading the comments in the linked thread from another site, it appears to me that the parents, grandparents, bio.sisters, and aunts are as self-centered, privileged, and with as high expectations as the generation we are talking about. These are the parents who tried to "fix" everything when it didn't go just right for their kiddies, and this situation, sorority recruitment, is beyond their reach. They can't bully a teacher or administrator or a coach into changing the outcome and they are frustrated. And it is obvious to me that these "active" alumnae who "support" their chapters pay their alumnae dues and/or make a contribution to a scholarship fund and that is all the "support" they give, because if they actually supported their sorority with their physical presence, they would understand the current process.

On a related note, I read a really nice blog post recently about how important it is to let children experience disappointment:
http://www.musingmomma.com/2012/01/s...ppuccinos.html[/QUOTE]

I had a parent state that seating the top 10 students in the class on the front row at graduation was discrimination. How is it discrimination if everyone in the class had the opportunity to be on the front row if they just would have worked a little harder, studied a little more or taken a few honors classes?

Agreed - the sorority is more than just one house of that sorority. The parents sound just as petulant and entitled as the kids - probably the first time the parents haven't been able to fix a bad situation for their kids and they're going nuts.

ETA - I see that I said just what FSUZeta said, except she said it better!

Release figure management doesn't really allow for that kind of thing, for the most part.

I see so many examples of women withdrawing from the process because they didn't feel 100% comfortable with the sororities that they had remaining. Honestly...how many of us felt completely confident and sure about our choices? How many felt this ironclad connection after a few short days during FFR? I sure didn't.

Years ago when I went through, I knew that I wanted to be Greek more than I wanted to be an XYZ, so I went through the process with an open mind and didn't just focus on a few "top tier" groups. PNM's who are doing this are setting themselves up for disappointment. When I opened my card on Bid Day and received a bid from my second choice group, I was upset, but got over it and had the best college experience, and have been extremely engaged (both with time and finances) as an alumna. Life is not always fair...women today need to learn to deal with life's disappointments and make the most of the situation.

Recruitment today can be brutal and there are no guarantees. This generation of women is not used to being told no. At these super-competitive schools, women should be thrilled to receive a bid from ANY group. This popularity-contest mentality is such a shame. SO many are missing out on an incredible life-long experience because of this thinking.

That is what my niece did, she didn't feel comfortable in the houses where she went to pref, and then dropped. I tried to tell her that she would be be happy in any of the houses. That with 200 plus members, you find your group within the big group. But she liked 2 or 3 houses that dropped her after round 2 and she was so disappointed at that I don't think it mattered after that.
Of course I think she made a mistake; but it is her life.
Hopefully she will go thru again next year. .. I hope that she will!

It is so hard dovelovesk, to get thru to young people sometimes. Hopefully your niece will get involved with a couple of different groups on campus, do well in her classes and make some contacts within the sororities. That way, should she decide to rush again, she has set herself up as best she can (plus getting new recs. for all the chapters).

The other thing that kills me is yes, that person she would connect with in those chapters is there, but just through sheer luck of the draw, she wasn't paired with them.

Then the matching crew did not do a very good job :rolleyes:

I've said before that while I understand the concept of matching sister who played lacrosse with PNM who played lacrosse, I don't think it's infallible. PNM may be sick as crap of lacrosse and never wants to play it again.

Plus some women are trying to reinvent themselves in college and the last thing they want is to talk to the popular girl who unknowingly gave them an inferiority complex from 5th grade on.

It usually does work, but humans would not be humans if it was 100% perfect.

Houses at UGA don't usually match PNMs with Sisters until later rounds, sometimes not until Prefs. The PNMs file in the foyers and sisters literally go find someone to snatch up.

According to their Instagram page, Gamma Phi got 75!

Back in ancient times when I went through "rush" we did not match sisters with "rushees" until preference night. It was always a random selection depending on where you were standing when Suzi Snowflake walked through the door. At that time, "rush numbers" were very low on our campus compared to today. If we had 200 go through that was a lot!

DaffyKD

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I would have thought the same thing but my daughter explained before recruitment that it is imperative that these girls meet other people that can also vouch for them. It does help though if the person they know speaks up with who to pair them with. My daughter is at another SEC school and her sorority does pair from day 1.

UGA panhellenic posted on Facebook that 1250 girls received bids.

1590 registered so that means 78% received bids. I wonder how that compares to other SEC schools.

Of course, you can't assume that 22% did not receive bids because that number includes the girls who dropped out because they didn't like their invites as well as the girls who did not get any invites.

I bet the vast majority of the ones who didn't get bids dropped out. I'd really love to see data about the number of women actually released by all chapters. Does UGA usually tell us?

UA and AU were both 90%. I can't remember the exact decimal places but Auburn was less than .5% more I believe is what I read. So they were MUCH higher than UGA.

Yeah, when first rounds are 25 minutes, and you have 50 PNM's coming through (I don't know exact numbers at UGA, but that's how my alma mater was), you don't have the time to match in the early rounds.

All three of my girls went Greek at UGA! One went Alpha Chi Omega, another went Chi Omega, and the last girl went Alpha Omicron Pi! I'm so glad they all had such a positive experience!

The 78% seems a bit low but they need to exclude those who chose to drop who still had invites. I remember a couple years ago, Ole Miss had 92%. Not sure what it was last year. So far we've had 100% placement of our hometown PNM's at OU, Auburn, Alabama and UGA but it was only a total of 17 girls since those are all OOS for us. However, I think our local Panhellenic does a good job of preparing them! I know the OU and UGA girls all got what they wanted and had great weeks.

Does anyone know if they raised total? and are the chapters COBing?

They are suppose to adjust to average chapter size - or can be different depending on all factors - within 72 hours (I think). Time will tell.