Delta Gamma?
 

I Googled both of their married names a couple of days ago....I believe they both may be DG's.

Well, there go my plans of getting to bed at a decent hour tonight...

Yeah if you do an image search looks like they're DG. And maybe too young to be the mystery twins?

The twin lawyers from the state of Arizona both went to ASU. Pink Sequinned Girl went to a big state school and her twin went to a small private school in the same state so that story would not match up.

If it is Oklahoma University and Tulsa University (which matches up with the story and the 1 chapter at TU which isn't at OU), then I've done enough sluething to know which sororities match up to the ski resort names. All based on house description, chapter size or when the chapter came on campus. But, I don't want there to be hard feelings (from what the original poster described). It's her opinion and her opinion only.

If you're ready to read who is who in her story, I can give you names.

I was hoping to identify the mom, as Pink Sequinned Girl said she was Miss America runner-up and cannot find a Miss Oklahoma, who went to TU, that was 1st runner-up (other finalist rankings, but not 1st runner-up).

Would there be any other states where the big state school had 11 chapters, 5 of which were at the smaller private school, with the private school having a visionary president???

That was the one thing that also threw me off ChioLu-the mom that was a beauty pageant runner up. Maybe this was a red herring?

I would love it is you would please let me know your match ups. You can pm me if you would like. i can't wait!!! And thank you for taking the time to do this.

You won't hurt my feelings if your post publicly. Zeta was there for a while, but never really got a firm foot hold. It's a fact.

Oh please, oh please… if you send PM's about your findings, let me be one who receives one of them! I almost needed therapy when that story suddenly stopped, and I had just found Greek Chat.

One statement jumped out at me when I recently re-read the story: When PSG (pink sequins girl) questions how the other chapters knew that Syd had gotten a bid to Aspen, she references e-mail. I'm not sure when most colleges started using email, but when I was a freshman in 1996, my school used extremely basic email. I don't know how long before that it was being used on campuses, but that statement makes it sound like this story occured sometime after the 1990s. I don't recall when Pink Sequin Panty Hose were popular, but it certainly was not after 1996.


"i was so quiet at the other houses... very polite... but not very chatty and not very enthusiastic... but most of them just thought that was the way i was... and were so very kind. seemingly all of them congratulated me on syd's recruitment and her bid to aspen... wow, did they send a telegram, an e-mail or did someone call every single chapter? every one of them knew and spoke of it... and red river loved it... and made sure that lyndsay and i both knew we would be cut... so i already knew i was cut by two of the three house we had to cut for eight party day... that certainly made for an easier decision."

There's been another poster on GC who uses ellipses frequently, and always followed by that extra space. Also a lot of unnecessary quotation marks. That's my contribution to the detective work.

I use unnecessary quotation marks sometimes, and could put an extra space after an ellipse. It wasn't me. I was "in love" (that unnecessary quotation thing) and didn't even consider going through rush. Plus, I'm way too old.

As do I.

Just throwing this out there. I googled 'commuter school visionary president' and it appears George Washington University had one of those from the 60's to the 80's, Lloyd Elliott.

Could GWU be the 'small exclusive private university' and one of the big Virginia schools be the 'big state school'? Maybe George Mason, JMU, or UVA?
"my university... though not strictly southern... definitely is and continues to be a very, very competitive greek system. huge mansions... and huge chapters that ruled the school."

DC, lawyers, the 'thing' maybe daddy was a senator?

I'll have to do this after work. Today, we've had a Clayton Kershaw interview turn into a technical crap-fest, followed by a Peyton Manning interview that I HAD to make sure it went smoothly. (Cleaning up the crap-fest now ... )

I'd also love to know theories as to which sororities were which, so please, PM away!

I don't believe any of the Virginia schools would be what we consider a southern recruitment. Certainly nothing that required breaking out the pink sequined tights!

Nothing -- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING -- requires breaking out the pink sequined tights. 'nuff said.

I think that would describe me, too. Unfortunately, I'm one of the last to catch a bad recruitment thread or school.

The days & # of chapters that PS & Sydney could be invited to exactly fit the University of Oklahoma and the University of Tulsa's schedule. Total fit.

From PS original thread, in post #18, she says that
the six sororities at my sister's school were:
ASPEN
DEER VALLEY
KEYSTONE
SANTE FE
SUN VALLEY, and
RED RIVER

and

the eleven sororities at my university were:
VAIL
DEER VALLEY
ASPEN
KEYSTONE
SANTE FE
PARK CITY
LAKE LOUISE
RED RIVER
TELLURIDE
BRECKENRIDGE, and
TAOS

The 6 sororities at TU are XO, DDD, DG, KD, Kappa & Theta.
The 11 sororities at OU are: AXO, AGD, AOPi, APhi, XO, DDD, DG, GPhiB, Kappa, Theta, PiPhi.

Per PS, there is 1 house at TU that isn't at OU.
Sun Valley is not at OU, so Sun Valley = KD

It was easiest to slueth the chapters at TU from the description PS gives of the actual chapter houses at OU.

In post #46, she describes Keystone as having a Tudor style house at OU.
There is only ONE Tudor style sorority house at OU -- it is Theta.
http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlif...pha_theta.html
Keystone = Theta

Same post, she describes Aspen as having a "new, beautiful mansion and the newest house on campus and was classic southern georgian gorgeous."
DG used to have an older chapter house, but rebuilt and, at the time I feel this recruitment happened, would have been the newest-built house on campus. Her account is a great description of the OU DG house: http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlif...lta_gamma.html
Aspen = DG (which most of us on GC thought)

In post #35, she states that, at TU, Red River is the smallest chapter, and at OU, Red River has a "stunning Georgian mansion". I know, for sure, that Kappa had lowest numbers at TU in the early/mid 2000's. She also described the Red River house at OU as "stunning georgian mansion". While Chi O at OU has a Georgian mansion, it's not as stunning as the OU KKG house:
http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlif...ppa_gamma.html
I can remember standing in front of it and thinking "Oh. My. God."
From these 2 tell-tale factors, I believe Red River = Kappa

Now to figure out the last 2 chapters at TU ...

But she said her sister attended a private U didn't she? Neither of these would be.

TU is a private university.
It took me 10 years to pay off my private university tuition!

The last 2 chapters at TU to figure out were MY chapter (XO) and DDD.


For Sante Fe, there wasn't a lot to go on. Mostly comments describing the members. PS's comments about either Santa Fe being real powerhouse sorority all over... except in our state and this region -- I didn't feel that applied to either XO or DDD in the state of Oklahoma. Her description of the OU chapter was generic and all over the place (post 46)

In post #193 in the original thread, PS talks about "her particular situation" at OU Deer Valley. "How they had more than twice their quota number just in legacies coming through deer valley this year... more than any other year. several were "in house" legacies... and several were very important legacies ..." So Syd would need to join TU Deer Valley in order for PS to be considered and that would be a very liberal description, as 1 would need to be initiated to have a legacy. Two of my TU XO sisters have daughters that went to OU. Both pledged Chi O and a high percentage of their NM classes were legacies. OU tends to have more Chi O legacies than NM quota. It was when I went through OU Rush when Pledge Class Quota was 50 and there were well over 50 Chi O legacies going through. Quota in 2013 was 80 and my XO sister's daughter was about 1 of almost 50 legacies. And Chi O only considers Mothers and Sisters in Legacy status.

Going with this assumption,
Deer Valley = Chi O
and, that would mean the last unknown chapter to be
Sante Fe = DDD

Continuing with Syd's recruitment, her four-party day, she went to these 3 chapters:
Keystone = Theta
Deer Valley = Chi O
Aspen = DG
and, ultimately, gets an invitation to join Aspen = DG

This happens right before PS's 2nd day of Open Houses, when the "secret meeting" in post #193 occurs.
For eight-party day, she mentions going to 3 houses:
Aspen = DG
Taos & Vail

In post #46, PS says that Taos is "this was the smallest chapter on campus. they were realitively new"
I believe AOPi colonized at OU in the early 2000's, so
Taos = AOPi

Not much to go on for Vail, but that they have an elegant house.
Since I think Breckenridge = AGD (smallest chapter, prior to going to Taos, which matches the #s at OU) and that Telluride = APhi (as it is "surrounded by several of the best fraternity chapters and their houses... but no other sororities" because APhi has much more fraternities as neighbors from its location on campus).

The OU Gamma Phi house is a 1 story house, so I don't think it would be Vail. Alpha Chi has a stately house, but I think the detailing on the Pi Beta Phi house may be considered more "elegant":
http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlif..._beta_phi.html
(but that's just my opinion)
I think Vail = Pi Phi
(and several others have posted that they think she was invited back to Pi Phi also)

Here's why I think the story takes place in Oklahoma.
In post #214, PS states that
* football is big in the state
* we had an "all state homecoming queen." at the beginning of playoffs they gathered all, and i mean all... of the homecoming queens from all over the entire state to select the "all state homecoming queen."

Both true. One of my friends won All State Homecoming Queen our senior year. (If another state has an All State Homecoming Queen, please post.)

Her last post is #290, where she states "she cannot continue" and apologizes to her family. So we may never find out the end of this mystery.

She also posted that SHE was the 1 who went away to college. So, I think the family is from the Tulsa area. I also know someone who was Miss TU, then Miss Oklahoma (Miss America). I'm going to do some ground work when I go back for Homecoming, as TU will also be having an "All Greek Reunion".

And, of course, I may be COMPETELY WRONG about everything! :confused:

But if you are wrong, we will never know, will we? And this is the closest we have been up to now. I'm enthralled.

ChioLu, I still believe the original story was fiction, but I applaud your detective work and found it more entertaining and informative than the piece that inspired it.

Or before 1996.

Please include me in any PMs with other findings - reading this thread + the original has been an adventure and a half!

ChioOU

Incredible!! I love how much you have put together!

After I posted this, I realized -- wait -- OKlahoma State has five of the six chapters as Tulsa university! The only one not at OSU is DG. And The OSU Theta house is also Tudor style. I may have blown my own theory out of the water.

So calling all cowboys or those familiar with OSU, can you help answer some questions? How many chapters on campus and when/who are the last expansions?

There are 12 chapters at OSU. Phi Mu colonized there in 1979 and AOPi has been there since 2012, I think. Alpha Xi Delta will be re-colonizing in the next few weeks.

Tulsa sounds more like the right fit historically.

Oh my goodness my morning coffee just left my mouth and ended up all over the place!:D:D:D

Glad to be of service! :cool:

I have been obsessing over that thread since I joined this site... Must. Keep. Reading.

Yay ChiOLu.

I have visions of some woman sitting at a computer and IMing her best friend "Do you know, they are still obsessing over that fiction I wrote a few years ago!

Was Tulsa considered an elite school for the wealthy in the 90s? I was wondering @ the HS description also. If the family was from Tulsa, maybe Monte Casino?

The elite school for the wealthy would likely be Cascia Hall.

My only flaws with ChioLu's work is that the OU DG house isn't Georgian. It is lovely and enormous, but wouldn't be described as Georgian. Also, the old ZTA house is Tudor, and may have housed Phi Mu, depending on what year the story occurred.

Forgot about Cascia Hall. Haven't lived in Tulsa for 30+ years, lol.

There was a Miss Tulsa named Gail Farrell who competed in Miss Oklahoma in the late 1960s. Gail won the swimsuit and talent competition, then went on to star in The Lawrence Welk show. She had twin daughters, Erin and Lauren Anderson. Erin is an actress.

http://www.blaggs.org/DHSAA/featured...rell/index.htm

http://www.welkmusicalfamily.com/gailfarrell.html

Gail's husband is also performer, does that fit the story? My memory is fuzzy but I'm thinking that the Father of the twins was a lawyer and in politics or some position of power.

How did I ever miss this story? I stumbled on it last night, then finished reading the original thread this morning.

I agree with everyone who thinks it's made up.

The father of the twins was a powerful attorney, who was tragically killed in some kind of accident, I think.