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delph998 01-29-2002 04:19 PM

Selina Johnson
 
Selina Johson is a Zeta. If you look at her acknowledgments in her cd cover, you would see that she gives props to her sorors.

Selina sings "I'm Your Woman"

SweetestDiva 01-29-2002 04:56 PM

Somebody said Bruce Bruce was a Kappa... I was like :o

PrettyKitty 02-01-2002 03:42 PM

And what if Jasmine Guy was a Zeta? What does that mean in the grand scheme of things? The million dollar answer is Nada...Zetas stand proud with or without honorary members.

You know it's one thing to have "mistakes" up on a webpage...but when I opened up that Divine 9 book and saw the same stuff...I was like wth...I have to agree with the person who said if the HQ of that organization can't verify it then it isn't so...doesn't take much to call up some HQ of some NPHC org and just ask!

and That's my $19.20 worth...

stoplook_listen 02-01-2002 05:38 PM

alpha phi beta sigma?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sphinxpoet


I went to a home page where it was said Jesse Jackson is a Sigma when I was an Intrerest!

Sphinxpoet

I read that Benjamin (Chavis)Muhammad is an eternal Sphinxmen,
yet I hear he is also an honarary Sigma...does he have dual membership? Is that allowed?

DOVE1920 02-02-2002 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
And what if Jasmine Guy was a Zeta? What does that mean in the grand scheme of things? The million dollar answer is Nada...Zetas stand proud with or without honorary members.

You know it's one thing to have "mistakes" up on a webpage...but when I opened up that Divine 9 book and saw the same stuff...I was like wth...I have to agree with the person who said if the HQ of that organization can't verify it then it isn't so...doesn't take much to call up some HQ of some NPHC org and just ask!

and That's my $19.20 worth...

Well said Soror!:D

tickledpink 02-04-2002 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82



And Rog from "What's Happenin'". I wanna know what the hell was happenin' when they let him on line. Bet he wasn't saying "I'm pretty on my right, I'm pretty on my left" lol.

LOL! You are wrong for that!!!

kingtut 02-22-2002 01:22 PM

I think this is funny because I was just talking to Sands about black folk and our history. We hear so much about members and there accoplishments but we never seem to have any proof. Most of the time it's all hear say. Research people Research!

tooicecold1906 02-25-2002 03:19 AM

Lionel Richie is an Alpha...he went to Tuskeegee University...

D-Train 02-25-2002 05:03 AM

Ivy, I feel where you are coming from. But, I can only vouch for members of Phi Beta Sigma. Bro. George Washington Carver was a very active member of our fraternity during his time.

ChaosDST 03-10-2002 03:19 PM

Re: Made up Famous members
 
I heard years ago that Quincy Jones was an Alpha. My dad's an Alpha, and almost guaranteed me that Quincy Jones wasn't one.

And, despite the fact that George "P-Funk" Clinton did the infamous "Atomic Dawg," he is NOT a Que--he's not honorary or anything of that sort. I even heard he was a Sigma---only because he does the hand sign----which in the '70's and '80's rock and funk eras means "ROCK ON!"

Is Morris Chestnutt REALLY a Sigma?? I've heard mixed accounts...he's HOTTTTT regardless, though ;)

One day, you all will see ChaosDST on a list of famous members. And you'll be like: I remember that chic from when she was just a lowly Greekchat member :)




Quote:

Originally posted by APhiAce
Alpha Phi Alpha as NUMEROUS Famous members who all CHOSE Alpha on their own accord. We have NO need whatsoever to make people up.

Of course Fredrick Douglass is not an Alpha. Everyone knows you can't make someone a member without them accepting or declining. But his writings influenced the founding of Alpha and we hold him in high regard.

I don't remember anyone ever claiming Quincy Jones to be an Alpha...where did you here that one. I don't think he is in any Greek Org.


ChaosDST 03-10-2002 03:30 PM

Hey sisterfriend PrettyKitty!

Well, it's funny when we discuss "famous" members...because the definition of "famous" is interesting. I wouldn't discuss Rog from What's Happening in the same breath as I would discuss Black intellects such as W.E.B and Cornel West. That's just me, though.

But, people always leave out: the Laura Winslow chic from Family Matters (DST), yelling Kim Whitley (from "Oh, Drama"----(DST) yeah, we gotta admit it), and the equally-as-loud comedian chic from Comic View, she's a Zeta (her loud mouth has nothing to do with her affiliation, of course)---I forget her name. Oberton from Living Single is a Que (I'm a reliable source---he also threw up the hooks in an episode).

There are quite a few Black folks who we see on these shows and so forth that are Greeks. But, I wouldn't go so far as to put them on my "famous" list. Just thinking aloud :)





Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
And what if Jasmine Guy was a Zeta? What does that mean in the grand scheme of things? The million dollar answer is Nada...Zetas stand proud with or without honorary members.

You know it's one thing to have "mistakes" up on a webpage...but when I opened up that Divine 9 book and saw the same stuff...I was like wth...I have to agree with the person who said if the HQ of that organization can't verify it then it isn't so...doesn't take much to call up some HQ of some NPHC org and just ask!

and That's my $19.20 worth...


straightBOS 03-10-2002 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
the equally-as-loud comedian chic from Comic View, she's a Zeta (her loud mouth has nothing to do with her affiliation, of course)---I forget her name.
Sheryl Underwood

ChaosDST 03-11-2002 12:39 AM

Yeah, her...thanks!


Quote:

Originally posted by straightBOS


Sheryl Underwood


PrettyKitty 03-11-2002 06:20 PM

That brings up another question Deuce, what consitutes someone being labeled as "Famous" i.e. what qualities must they have...

D-Train 03-12-2002 02:29 AM

Chaos, the answer your question about Morris Chestnut is no.royal blue

ChaosDST 03-12-2002 10:37 AM

Really? Well, I wonder how that rumor got started years ago, then...thanks. He's still HOOOOOTTTT though :)

Quote:

Originally posted by D-Train
Chaos, the answer your question about Morris Chestnut is no.royal blue

DoggyStyle82 03-12-2002 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
Really? Well, I wonder how that rumor got started years ago, then...thanks. He's still HOOOOOTTTT though :)


Probably from a Zeta.

When I found out that Blair Underwood was a Sigma, I was like, how the heck did that happen. He went to a school that pledged at my yard and I never saw him once.

Who told you that John Hinton (Overton) was a Que? That is news to me if its true.

CrimsonTide4 03-12-2002 07:04 PM

Famous Members
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
That brings up another question Deuce, what consitutes someone being labeled as "Famous" i.e. what qualities must they have...
Funny I was thinking about this on my morning drive in to work today.

IMO, the only members in our respective orgs who are worthy of being labeled as "famous" would be the founders of each org. These pioneering men and women laid the foundation for each of our orgs. As college students in a time when being BLACK was not easy, these men and women struggled for what we have today -- not just our orgs, but a lot of the rights and privileges that we take for granted. XX amount of years ago, our founders had visions for sisterhood and brotherhood, scholarship, service, and the upliftment of our people and our communities.

Anyone else might have notoriety in another field, but those founding fathers and mothers of the Divine Nine orgs laid foundations in our orgs as well as the Black community.

ChaosDST 03-12-2002 07:37 PM

LOL@from a Zeta. I don't think so, maybe Morris Chestnutt WANTED to be a Sigma or something.
Anwhooooo, I always heard from bruhs that John Hinton was a bruh and when he threw up the hooks on an episode one day, that was proof (to me). The actor who played the janitor boss on "Set It Off" is also a bruh...you can see the hit on his chest in the scene where he's caught in the hotel room with the money. He guest starred on Living Single once, too...it may've been the episode when Overton threw up the hooks.


Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82


Probably from a Zeta.

When I found out that Blair Underwood was a Sigma, I was like, how the heck did that happen. He went to a school that pledged at my yard and I never saw him once.

Who told you that John Hinton (Overton) was a Que? That is news to me if its true.


rhapsody1922 03-12-2002 10:05 PM

Curious
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4


Funny I was thinking about this on my morning drive in to work today.

IMO, the only members in our respective orgs who are worthy of being labeled as "famous" would be the founders of each org. These pioneering men and women laid the foundation for each of our orgs. As college students in a time when being BLACK was not easy, these men and women struggled for what we have today -- not just our orgs, but a lot of the rights and privileges that we take for granted. XX amount of years ago, our founders had visions for sisterhood and brotherhood, scholarship, service, and the upliftment of our people and our communities.

Anyone else might have notoriety in another field, but those founding fathers and mothers of the Divine Nine orgs laid foundations in our orgs as well as the Black community.

Greetings everyone! I'm new on Greekchat and was checking out what my fellow Greeks had to say. But I agree w/ you CrimsonTide. I have the upmost respect for my seven founders. Women who peservered in at a white school in klan land! Who sought and education when it was hard to do as not only a black, but as a women. :)

But I'm curious. I've been laughing as I read some of the post. Why would someone be "shocked" that a certain individual who is deemed as being famous pledged a certain frat or sorority? ALL our organizations have great foundations and should be held w/ the upmost respect! Does someone think a certain organization is not "good enough" to hold these members of prestige and influence? Not trying to cause an arguement, just curious. :confused: :) :confused:

Please respond. I'm interested in an answer. :)
Peace and Blessings. :)

Rhapsody 1922
Fall 1997 #3
Blue and Gold Rules EVERYTHING Around Me!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-YIP!!!!!!!!!

AKA2D '91 03-12-2002 10:13 PM

lmao: A newbee ...A tour is needed!
 
Where is the BGLO GC tour guide?

:D



All jokes, all jokes! :D

ChaosDST 03-12-2002 10:17 PM

Re: Curious
 
I have the utmost respect for the Founders of ALL of our organizations. I think that there is a distinction b/w "famous" and "notable." When I think "famous," perhaps Steve Harvey, Cedric the Entertainer----people in the entertainment and sports realms. When I think of "notable," I'm thinking of those movers and shakers in the political and education realms. That may be my own biases, but in my world, everyone plays a role. However, being on TV or throwing pigskin does not denote "notable" status----unless you're proactive (as opposed to merely proathlete) and socially conscious.
Now, I think some people expressed surprise that certain actors and so forth are members of certain organizations, NOT because of the organization's worth. I think that we sometimes do not imagine that some of these people even went to college, not to mention having pledged an organization.


Quote:

Originally posted by rhapsody1922


Greetings everyone! I'm new on Greekchat and was checking out what my fellow Greeks had to say. But I agree w/ you CrimsonTide. I have the upmost respect for my seven founders. Women who peservered in at a white school in klan land! Who sought and education when it was hard to do as not only a black, but as a women. :)

But I'm curious. I've been laughing as I read some of the post. Why would someone be "shocked" that a certain individual who is deemed as being famous pledged a certain frat or sorority? ALL our organizations have great foundations and should be held w/ the upmost respect! Does someone think a certain organization is not "good enough" to hold these members of prestige and influence? Not trying to cause an arguement, just curious. :confused: :) :confused:

Please respond. I'm interested in an answer. :)
Peace and Blessings. :)

Rhapsody 1922
Fall 1999 #3
Blue and Gold Rules EVERYTHING Around Me!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-YIP!!!!!!!!!


ChaosDST 03-12-2002 10:20 PM

Re: lmao: A newbee ...A tour is needed!
 
YAAAAAWN, it's a little late in the evening for a tour----maybe we can reschedule for tomorrow or something ;)

I forgot to welcome Rhapsody1922 to GC...welcome Sisterfriend!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Where is the BGLO GC tour guide?

:D



All jokes, all jokes! :D


rhapsody1922 03-12-2002 10:47 PM

nice answer
 
Acceptable answer. But I don't think that is everyones true reason for "shock." But maybe that's just MY belief! Still curious to hear others!

Thanks for the welcome. :)

Rhapsody 1922
Fall 1997 #3
Blue and Gold Rules EVERTHING AROUND ME!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEE-YIP!!!

PrettyKitty 03-13-2002 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82


Probably from a Zeta.



WHAT? TRY AGAIN! :eek: Seriously, I think a lot of these inaccuracies get started from some basis in truth...i.e. if someone were asked to be an honorary member or placed on a roll of consideration...and some member took it and ran with it...u ever played the gossip game as a kid?

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

IMO, the only members in our respective orgs who are worthy of being labeled as "famous" would be the founders of each org. These pioneering men and women laid the foundation for each of our orgs. As college students in a time when being BLACK was not easy, these men and women struggled for what we have today -- not just our orgs, but a lot of the rights and privileges that we take for granted. XX amount of years ago, our founders had visions for sisterhood and brotherhood, scholarship, service, and the upliftment of our people and our communities.

Anyone else might have notoriety in another field, but those founding fathers and mothers of the Divine Nine orgs laid foundations in our orgs as well as the Black community.

Good Point there and I agree with you. Everyone else is living the dream that our Founder's intended, representing our beloved orgs to their fullest extent, blazing the path our Founders left behind...but then there are some who dont... :(

Quote:

Originally posted by rhapsody1922


But I'm curious. I've been laughing as I read some of the post. Why would someone be "shocked" that a certain individual who is deemed as being famous pledged a certain frat or sorority? ALL our organizations have great foundations and should be held w/ the upmost respect! Does someone think a certain organization is not "good enough" to hold these members of prestige and influence? Not trying to cause an arguement, just curious.

Still curious to hear others!


And I am curious as to whether the genee in the lamp really exists....Seriously though, if some people's organizational choice is grounded in a belief system based on mistruths(to speak kindly) about other organizations then you are going to see people be "shocked" when things don't fit into what they believe as truth about other organizations...:rolleyes:...at the end of the day who cares? as long as u are grounded, idiocy and ignorant behaviour should never shake u. BTW, Welcome to GC!

rhapsody1922 03-13-2002 05:46 PM

Very good perpective Pretty Kitty. :eek:
Thanks for the welcome. :)

ChaosDST 03-13-2002 06:34 PM

I believe bruh was joking about the Zeta thing. But, you're absolutely right, rumors get started based on some truth---which is why I thought he wanted to be a Sigma or whatever. Would someone of Morris Chestnutt's relative success be asked to be an honorary? That would be interesting. Anyway.
Like I told rhapsody before, I don't think people expressed shock for the reasons she assumed they did. However, people certainly have their stereotypes, and when they find someone who does not "LOOK" or "ACT" like they should be a member of XYZ, they can make some ignorant comments, like..."you're pretty, you look more like an AKA than a Delta," or "she's thin to be a Zeta." I used to hear those comments made often, and I think...WHAT IN THE???
Okay, my fault, I know I'm taking this thread elsewhere....


Greek Love,
DSTDeuce


Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty



WHAT? TRY AGAIN! :eek: Seriously, I think a lot of these inaccuracies get started from some basis in truth...i.e. if someone were asked to be an honorary member or placed on a roll of consideration...and some member took it and ran with it...u ever played the gossip game as a kid?


Good Point there and I agree with you. Everyone else is living the dream that our Founder's intended, representing our beloved orgs to their fullest extent, blazing the path our Founders left behind...but then there are some who dont... :(



And I am curious as to whether the genee in the lamp really exists....Seriously though, if some people's organizational choice is grounded in a belief system based on mistruths(to speak kindly) about other organizations then you are going to see people be "shocked" when things don't fit into what they believe as truth about other organizations...:rolleyes:...at the end of the day who cares? as long as u are grounded, idiocy and ignorant behaviour should never shake u. BTW, Welcome to GC!


DoggyStyle82 03-14-2002 11:37 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChaosDST
[B]I believe bruh was joking about the Zeta thing. But, you're absolutely right, rumors get started based on some truth---which is why I thought he wanted to be a Sigma or whatever. Would someone of Morris Chestnutt's relative success be asked to be an honorary? That would be interesting. Anyway.

**Yeah, I was joking. One of my best friends is a Sigma and an actor in Hollywood and he told me how Blair Underwood became a Sigma. If Morris Chestnut wanted to be a Sigma, he doesn't need to wait for the National Office to confer honorary status**.

Like I told rhapsody before, I don't think people expressed shock for the reasons she assumed they did. However, people certainly have their stereotypes, and when they find someone who does not "LOOK" or "ACT" like they should be a member of XYZ, they can make some ignorant comments, like..."you're pretty, you look more like an AKA than a Delta," or "she's thin to be a Zeta." I used to hear those comments made often, and I think...WHAT IN THE???

**I hope Rhapsody1922 was not referring to my Raj from What's Happenin' comment because it should be evident that I was joking. Please be specific rather than make blanket assertions so that the "right" question is addressed by the "right" person. No one "looks like" an ABC, but some people may have an "ABC" persona (IMHO)**

PrettyKitty 03-15-2002 04:25 PM

As long as we continue to hold on to petty, biased, and ignorant beliefs we can never move forward as a people. Our House is Divided! When will this ever end?

kizzie22 03-15-2002 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
As long as we continue to hold on to petty, biased, and ignorant beliefs we can never move forward as a people. Our House is Divided! When will this ever end?

Hey Girlie!!!!!!
I agree...It is divided and the sad part about it...It will continue to be... :(

DoggyStyle82 03-17-2002 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
As long as we continue to hold on to petty, biased, and ignorant beliefs we can never move forward as a people. Our House is Divided! When will this ever end?

What division? Example please.

PrettyKitty 03-19-2002 08:14 PM

There is no need for explanation as long as you can read what's been posted by some of these boards.....and see how some people react in real life....

APhiAce 03-19-2002 09:01 PM

Chapter / Year of Initiation ....this would clear the confusion
 
I've noticed that when quoting our notable members, many people don't know what chapter a certain member came thru. Many don't even know if the member chose the org on their own or were they honoraries. I think this information would be interesting and clear the confusion.

stoplook_listen 03-19-2002 09:04 PM

is Quincy Jones an Alpha, Que, or Sigma?
 
I read a post that someone thought Quincy Jones was an Alpha. I also heard he was a Q-Dog. I myself saw a website that said he was a Sigma. Can anyone of you PROVE he is in your fraternity?

D-Train 03-19-2002 11:20 PM

Quincy Jones is NOT a Sigma.

DoggyStyle82 03-20-2002 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
There is no need for explanation as long as you can read what's been posted by some of these boards.....and see how some people react in real life....
There is a need for explanation. If you are gonna call something out, support it. Some sensitive people see hate where there is a strong opinion that doesn't favor their point of view or org. Some people with inferiority complexes see hate in good natured humor or spirited rivalry. Instead of being an adult, they cyber-pout. Out of the thousands of posts and topics, less than 3% (being generous) really consist of anything that college educated, mature, wordly people should find insulting or take personally.

PrettyKitty 03-20-2002 02:07 PM

Well, Doggystyle, I understand your viewpoint and agree with you to a certain extent and there is a time and place for everything...John Hammell given PM...

Professor 03-20-2002 02:21 PM

no comment:D

AKA2D '91 03-20-2002 06:08 PM

you can't use THAT! LMAO
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Professor
no comment:D
heyyyyyyyyyyy! THAT'S my line!

:p ;)

LMAO. You can use it!



:)

DoggyStyle82 03-21-2002 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
Well, Doggystyle, I understand your viewpoint and agree with you to a certain extent and there is a time and place for everything...John Hammell given PM...
Its cool PRETTY KITTY. I just don't like when people extrapolate one negative and apply it to the 99 positive as some sort of bellweather. There will always be a negative percentage but if that is what catches our eye to force our tongue into action, then we have never really valued the positive.


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