We like the way we do recruitment down south. We like our big houses. We like sitting down to dinner nightly with our sisters in our big dining rooms. It doesn't seem crazy to us. Getting recs. for recruitment is no more a nuisance than getting a rec. for a job. If recs. aren't needed at Iowa or Penn State or NYU, that's fine. Who am I to criticize what works at those schools? I trust my sisters there to take care of business in the way they are familiar. Because it is different does not mean it is dramatic or crazy or wrong.

Co-sign!

In need of an update. :)

Hey guys!


Sorry for making you wait! Right now, in real-time, I'm getting ready for the first day of second rounds! But here's the last day of open houses for you! It's still written in present tense but if that bugs y'all let me know!

Finally the last day of open houses! Everyone was really excited to be done.

Also can I just say I loooveeee my Pi Chis!!

Finding Nemo - This one was sort of awkward. They really seemed to like the girl I was rushing with because I got little eye contact which is always really annoying.

The Incredibles - The girls were very pretty and had not bad convos. One of the girls I talked to I knew. Once again they seemed more into the girl I was rushing with and I definitely felt awkward.

Enchanted - Another really awkward one. The first girl we talked to just didn't know how to carry a conversation. The next few we talked to were fine though, but I was feeling pretty beat at this point to care much.

Tangled - I don't remember much but I don't think I was really feeling it. I think the girls were nice though.

Wreck-It Ralph - This was a great one to have on my last day! The girls were so nice and we had really fun convos. Nothing too deep or interesting but different from the typical major/live/why you came/why do you want to rush kind of conversations.

So after we were all done we got to rank our least favorite five. 1 was one you would mind least getting back and 5 you didn't really want to get back. In my opinion, the PNM has really no say after this round; it's more about what sororities want you back. You could get a maximum 13 back (usually it's 14 but one chapter is recruiting differently).

My five lowest were:
1. The Nightmare Before Christmas
2. Peter Pan
3. Lilo & Stitch
4. Hercules
5. Enchanted

(hahah typing some of these as my lowest makes me so sad because I actually love the movies!)

I've asked around and people say you usually get 7-10 back. I'm not sure what I'm expecting. I do want good ones back obviously (good in the sense that I liked them or were neutral), but I'm afraid to want it too much because I don't want to be disappointed. But I guess I shouldn't think like that (I don't really like failure).

Ah, well, we'll see what I get back tomorrow! Picked out my outfit again after I got back and now I'm doing homework hahaha.

- Nittanyville 

Thanks for the updates and looking forward to hearing more!
Wishing you the best!

Good luck, girl! You have a great attitude and just remember...even if the convos are awkward now, it doesn't mean the girls are! Recruitment is inherently rough, especially when convos are so short.

Hope you find your home :)

Just had a rough night. I'm doing this real-time now because I love hearing all your comments and encouragement <3

Hey guys!

So today I got my schedule for first rounds.
I got back:

Peter Pan
Aladdin
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Toy Story
Hercules
Mulan
The Emperor's New Groove
Monster's Inc.
Lilo & Stitch
The Incredibles
Enchanted
Tangled

I got 12 out of a maximum of 13 which was good but it was a little hard not to be jealous of girls that got 13. Also I got all my bottoms back, but like I said, I don't feel like my rankings will have much effect until pref night.

First rounds is the philanthropy round. You get 30 minutes with each sorority and most showed a video on their philanthropy and had a little craft or activity to do. It still was crowded and I was double or triple rushed (found out this term after reading other stories haha) in all of them. It was interesting rushing with new girls though, since everyone's schedule was different.

For the first day I went to six.

Monster's Inc. - This one was really good! I got so excited to go back here. I talked with two girls and it was good. The philanthropy was good. We didn't talk about anything super interesting but I hope I get called back.

Toy Story - This was really bad. It set me in a bad mood. The second girl didn't even look at me at all. I find that so rude and it really just makes you feel poor about yourself, you know? Also the second girl made some comments that made me question her morals and the type of girl she was.

Enchanted - This one was not good. I was not responsive and felt like a bitch. I just felt so bad because I didn't come in open minded at all. I do not want to be called back here.

The Nightmare Before Christmas - Much much better than last time! The girl I talked to was great. Their philanthropy was great as well. It was a good turnaround from the first round.

The Incredibles - I was surprised they called me back. One convo was a bit awkward but overall their conversations were pretty good and their philanthropy and the way they raised money was cute and creative. I felt a bit fake at this party though. I think because I knew the stereotype of the sorority and it freaked me out. I don't want to be fake but it's hard because if someone says something that you're like "eh" about, I still feel the need to be like, "I love that!" I don't know.. I'm trying hard to be myself but it's so confusing.

The Emperor's New Groove - This one was good as well. Nice girls and good philanthropy. The last girl I talked to was so nice! Again I felt that awkward feeling of, "Am I being myself?" This one was especially confusing because I knew it could be possible the only reason I got called back was because I was a legacy.

At the end, I was feeling really mixed. I felt bad for how I acted in Toy Story, and I also started to become afraid that I wasn't being myself. Again, I also don't want to admit who I really want or hope too much because if I don't get them back, it's admitting failure. I know I shouldn't think like that but it's hard not to let this process push your ego around.

We get a day off before the second day of first rounds, so I'm hoping to relax, get some school work done, and just have time to myself. I wish I had more people to talk to. It's hard to explain how I'm feeling with words. It seems like everyone knows that their sorority is THE ONE for them and I'm afraid that's not how I feel. I'm not sure if the sorority tends to grow on the girl as they go on or if I'm just missing out on something.

After thinking it for a while, I decided the next six I'm going to I'm going to try to be as honest and myself as possible. If a sister says they love something, I won't lie and say, " OMG, I love it too!" but instead say something like, "I haven't seen it but I heard it was really good/what do you like about it" etc.

NEXT DAY

Lilo & Stitch - It started not that great but got a little better. The philanthropy was good but I'm not sure how I feel about them.
Mulan - Not bad. Philanthropy was ok. First girl I talked to I had very little in common but the other two I had pretty good conversations. These girls were nice.
Peter Pan - Surprisingly good! We talked about thoughtless things but it was fun. I liked their philanthropy . The girl I talked to was nice but she was definitely interested a lot in one of the other girls (triple rushed here).
Hercules - I was not really good at this one. I should've been more talkative but I wasn't. I'll probably get called back though.
Aladdin - This one went well but I don't remember much.
Tangled - Again, I remember this one went well. I felt like I had good conversations.

I ranked my bottom four.

1. Lilo & Stitch
2. Toy Story
3. Hercules
4. Enchanted

NEXT DAY

Ooooh boy this was rough. I got back:

Lilo & Stitch
Toy Story
Hercules
Enchanted
Aladdin

I'll write about my visits in the next post after I've visited them all. Let's just say there was crying though after I got my list back.

- Nittanyville

Keep your head up! As the lovely ladies of GC always say it only takes one to find your home. I didn't have a full schedule during all of recruitment, and I sometimes felt bad when other girls were debating what chapters to rank in their bottom three and I didn't have any chapters to rank, but I did it and you can too:) Unfortunately being a sophomore sometimes means you won't have as many options as freshman, but you can still find your place.

Also remember that one girl does not represent the whole sorority. I was preffed by a girl who was quite rude and snotty to me, but I remembered all the good things I had seen throughout the week and knew she wasn't the entire chapter. One minor question-are you a legacy to any chapter on campus? If so are they still in contention at this point? I wish you only the best!!

Thanks for the advice! The thing is, I'm not too upset about not having a full schedule. It is a little annoying but I'm most upset about not getting my favorites back. And with the legacy, nope, got cut, but I was sort of expecting it. Still sad though. I really wanted Monster's Inc. too :(

Thanks.

Cheering for you! Try really hard not to get too down. Try to take some deep breaths and to get back to a place where you can have an open mind. I'm so sorry that you were cut by your favorites, but I'm really hoping that something will happen that will make you fall in love with the ones that you have left. Try to relax, continue to try and be yourself. My fingers and toes are crossed for you!!!

My trick whenever I'm in a very awkward conversation: Try to find something to admire about the other person - physical, impression, something they've said, whatever. Everyone you meet has something great about them. Not so you can verbally compliment them on it, but so that you can become more personally interested in them and then more personable and at ease. Most of the time it works, even if all I can come up with is, "Wow, she has beautiful skin."

I couldn't help but notice that the ones you ranked lowest were the ones where you said YOU weren't at your best. However, these women saw something in you, even when you weren't at your best, that they liked enough to invite you back again.

Either you weren't as bad as you thought you were, or they see potential :)

Thank you, I hope it goes better the next few days too! I will try your tip.

I'm grateful for your positive outlook but the reason I wasn't at my best at some of those (glad you read everything haha!) was because I didn't want to be. There are a few chapters at my school that are undesirable (as I'm sure is common at big schools). I was much better today at one of the ones I was intentionally bad at before though.

What I'm reading here is you are not being yourself. You know it and you wish you were being authentic. Rush conversation isn't about saying the exactly right thing or agreeing about all the right things; it's about getting to know each other through snippets of a conversation. Try to ease up on yourself about your conversations, your answers, etc. Just relax and go with the conversations as they happen.

And do remember that rush isn't real life. The chapters that seem awkward and/or unfriendly are going through the steps just like you are, and some are better at it than others. It does NOT reflect the personality of the chapter after rush. Try to give them a break.

Yeah, I think two times I wasn't being myself in that I was thinking too hard
and two times I wasn't being myself because I didn't want to be called back. This round I'm sort of go-with-the-flow because I was just so disappointed. The one or two that I was really really disappointed about I already knew a few sisters that really fit my personality. But I'm trying to let go since I know it's done with.

I am trying to give some of them a break. I'll update y'all soon. I know purposely not trying to get back to a chapter makes me sounds like a, well you know, but I also know I would be unhappy there. I'm not perfect; I would care about being in the perceived worst chapter on campus.

You don't actually know that you would be unhappy there. You THINK you would be unhappy there, but more than likely you would be as happy in "that" chapter just as much as the more popular chapters.

Perhaps you're right. I'll see how I feel in the next few rounds.

SO this.

AND remember how big Greek life is there. With 40+ fraternities, I'm sure even the perceived 'worst' chapters have active social calendars. In a system that big, you can't escape 'tiers'. But really, who cares, because the bottom line is when Homecoming is happening, THON is happening, all the other huge philanthropies are happening, it's just cool to be part of that big and that active a greek system. Is there life outside of greek life at Penn State? Absolutely. But it's a pretty special thing to be part of if you get the chance. Stick with the process and give IT a chance. I hope your next day is a better day!

You have been given a chance by the groups who invited you back. I know it hurt to not get your favorites back, but at this point, you need to give EVERY group a chance if your goal is joining Greek life. You said you felt badly about how you acted at Toy Story, so here's your chance to show them your real self. These groups saw something in you, so make it your mission to find out what makes their sisterhood special. Wearing the letters of ANY Greek organization is an honor. Best of luck to you.

I'm only a couple of months on the other side of all of this (I'm still a pledge) and even though I love my new sorority, I wish that I had done things differently when I went through. I wish I hadn't spent time worrying about who didn't invite me back and why and instead spent more time thinking about what I saw in the groups who were inviting me back.I sort of took all the fun out of it for myself and let the whole thing get really stressful.

I think you have to balance what you know about yourself compared to what other people are telling you. If you are really judgey and it is really important to you to be in a sorority that other people think is "good" then you might just not pledge at all. Just be careful because you could miss out on sooooo much just because of worrying about what other people who you don't really know anyway, think.

This may be the smartest post I've ever read on GC.

ETA: I went back and noticed you're an Alpha Gam. Obviously a smart girl. ;)

I think this is the exception rather than the rule!!! A lot of girls my "glamorize" their recruitment after the fact and say "I always knew they were the one"- when in actuality this may not be the case. Personally I didn't have a clue! The house I ended up joining I never even expected to pref! The house went from one that I never thought about / never even entertained pledging to winning me completely over on pref night- all thanks to ONE sister whom I had never met prior to pref. Even then though, I was still not 100% sure they were "the one" when I ranked them as my number one. I just liked them "best".... I ended up in the PERFECT house for me... but I can not lie and say I felt 100% committed / in love with them while going through recruitment. .

Sorority life and "love of sisters" is not an instantaneous / magic moment. As others have pointed out, Rush is not real. You may not have that "aha moment" during rush.... you may not even have it for several weeks into pledging... like anything sororities and new friendships take time to build. HANG IN THERE... don't beat yourself up. It is not a failure that you didn't get your favorites back, it is a victory that the houses that invited you back wanted you back....

Best of Luck to you!!!

Good morning, Nittanyville! There is a lot of good advice -- I particularly liked MTSUgirl's techniques and DubaiSis' thoughts -- on this thread.

Managing the pace and stress of this recruitment actually has a silver lining. You will encounter situations, particularly in the workplace, where you will definitely not want to be your best self and not want to be in a conference room with XYZ going over the same inane thing again and wonder how in the heck Zippo got a management role. Sometimes all on the same day! : ) The best you can do in all of these stressful situations is manage your reaction (since there isn't much you can do about Zippo.) If you can distance yourself a wee bit and then say, "Okay, I'll play the game, put on my gameface and then see what happens". Sometimes you don't always get to be your genuine self, but if you go with the flow and see where it leads, you may find a surprising outcome. And remember, in the end you still have a choice -- you don't have to join any group.

Gameface wiil be skill that will serve you well for a lifetime. You already know that. I think you are just tired.

Now, I have to go put on my own gameface. It's Zippo time!

Good luck, hang in there (and these ladies offer good advice)!

As a Penn State graduate, I know how the tiers work in sorority life. It's actually stupid they have them but, hey--that's life. I just want to give you a tip. Someone mentioned it earlier that once Homecoming and THON start happening, you miss out if you didn't go Greek. I agree with that statement 100% because I saw it first hand. I actually had a friend that was extended a bid to a top chapter on campus. She didn't like some of the things the girls were doing to their pledges and she dropped. She was so jealous of how I was loving Greek Life as she said, "I wish I would have just gone to your chapter because you seem to really enjoy yourself. I missed out on Greek Life."

I also saw other girls who turned their noses up to Greek Life because they didn't want to be in the perceived "bottom" chapters. As graduation got closer, those same girls appeared bitter because they never went Greek and they let tier talk get to them. They missed out on such a wonderful experience. When I went through, I actually looked at the philanthropies. I loved to find out that my chapter is the highest money earner for Children's Miracle Network of all the Phi Mu chapters nationwide!

I can honestly say that I had friends in all the various chapters at PSU, regardless of where I went. If I had it to do all over again--I would--just so I could experience rush and spending time with my pledge sisters all over again. It really was a great experience--One I will cherish. I am incredibly proud to be a Phi Mu and a woman in the NPC.

I think this is very, very true of schools in this area in general. Even at the hugest Greek system in the state!! It's not something that's a social must like it is in the South or an avenue to better housing like at some other colleges and I think that makes the people who go through it more bonded together as a community - not just to their individual chapter - since we may have explain more to non-Greeks why we made the choice we made. When you're with other people who "get it" there's a sort of emotional shorthand that occurs.

Nittanygirl, let me try and weigh in here:

First of all, I can totally relate to your rush experiences. Rush is confusing, it's hard, and like others have said, it doesn't represent "real" life or what truly goes on within a chapter.

For example, a chapter that isn't so great at rushing may have a wonderful, peppy sisterhood full of love and warmth that just doesn't show through during recruitment for one reason or another. It's such a shame that so many girls don't get to see the potential in certain chapters due to a lackluster rush.

BUT, also, it's totally OK to feel confused! During rush, there's a ton of pressure on PNMs to say and do the "right thing," all while meeting an onslaught of amazing and very different women AND being expected to pick a favorite in just a week. It's part of the process, and there's no reason to beat yourself up for making mistakes. It happens. Brush it off and keep going! You will make it.

I also felt like I wasn't "being myself" during my rush at times, and honestly, "be yourself" is such hard advice to swallow, because rush is so formal and intimidating, or at least was for me. How exactly do you "be yourself" when you can't say X Y Z, when you have to condense your entire story into two-three sentences...it's tough, but it's how we recruit, so don't stress too much about it, in my opinion. :)

Plus, I think it's amazing you got 12/13 houses! But I do want to stress (and echo) what others have said: your experiences during recruitment DO NOT necessarily reflect the chapters' experiences. My chapter had trouble with rushing when I joined, but your pledge class can make a world of difference in the sorority.

If it so happens that you only get called back to your "least favorite" houses, I urge you to remember that those women saw something special in YOU, and regardless of who else cut you (cutting girls is often really hard!), take pride in the fact that sorority women are interested in you joining their chapter. It's a really amazing thing to be a part of.

Best of luck, girl! Hope I can answer any questions/concerns, because I really do empathize with girls going through rush.

I had an interesting conversation with a young lady who from a WRC last night, trying to comfort her and ease her frustration. I asked her if they had felt prepared for recruitment and she said "Yes! I think we did great but it's our campus rep. No matter how cool and nice we are in recruitment, we don't get as many girls. And we are really cool and nice!" And yeah, they are cool and nice, but people don't give them a chance- and it's breaking their hearts :(

So, for *those* chapters- give them a chance. Get to know them. Reps and tiers are BS in huge systems like Penn State.

THIS!!!!!!!

Yes, definitely!

And a little side rant here, but I think one of the big problems with ALL chapters (not just weak recruiting ones) is they believe that once recruitment ends, recruitment ends.

Yes, I meant to say that.

Chapter members need to learn how to be outgoing, promote their chapter, put their best foot forward, help others, and make everyone see just how awesome their sorority truly is 24/7/365.

My chapter had maybe 10 active sisters when my new member class joined. 10. Being visible on campus and having people want to join your chapter can be difficult when you have only that many members. But we had one sister (who eventually became my big) who was such a presence on campus that EVERYONE knew who she was. She wore letters EVERY DAY. No, I'm not exaggerating. She would talk to EVERYONE. She was involved on campus, and she was the first person you would see when walking into the cafe because she was always standing up, walking around, and saying hi to whoever walked by. She made joining the chapter so much less intimidating for me. She even came to my dorm and walked with me to my first recruitment party (we only did COB at the time). I think that if more chapters had girls like her, stereotypes and the idea of "weak chapters" may go straight out the window. When girls love their sorority, its values, and they want to share it with everyone, every day, it can completely change perceptions. I think more members need to think outside the recruitment box.

To the OP: At a school like Penn State, with so many chapters, I can't even picture these "tiers" being that significant. I kind of liken it to my high school - we had so many kids there (10th-12th grade, nearly 4,000 students) that once the initial few weeks of school were over, and everyone had settled into their groups of friends, no one really cared what everyone else was doing. There were cheerleaders, and football players, and goth kids, and band geeks... and I'm sure there were issues here and there, but for the most part, everyone just kind of did their own thing. With that many people, it's hard to keep track of who's "popular."

During recruitment, just be yourself at every chapter. You may find (as others here on Greekchat have discovered before) that the chapter members might know you better than you know yourself. In other words, that "top" chapter that you didn't get invited back to.. chances are, you wouldn't have fit in with them anyway. And that other chapter that you're not thrilled about.. they may be giving you the chance to be Greek that you've always dreamed of, but you just don't know yet that they're exactly what you need. There are many girls here who get their 2nd, 3rd, 4th choice.. and after a few weeks, they realize that they've ended up where they're meant to be. Just give every one of the chapters a fair chance, as that's what they've done for you.

Good luck, and enjoy the rest of recruitment!

Everyone is being very kind to you and giving you good advice. I hope it is helpful.

Personally, I'd like to give you a good swift kick in the bum for being sulky/rude/non responsive in parties because you don't want to be there/don't like the girls/don't want to be invited back. But it seems you are wrestling with that, so good for you! Negativity generates negativity and recruitment is stressful for everyone involved. Try to find some good in each group-- they have seen good in you and are extending hospitality to you and perhaps an offer of lifetime sisterhood. Take care of yourself! I hope you find your home.

This breaks my heart :(
One of my best friends is in what would be considered a "weaker" chapter at her school, and we were talking one day and she said "At first, I was a little iffy about joining because I didn't want other people to judge me, but it really is what you make of it. If you sit around telling yourself that you're in a weak chapter, you're going to feel like you are. But I've met some of my best friends through my sorority, and I wear my letters with pride. I'm proud of my letters and I'm proud to be a member of _____, and people see that. If you're confident about yourself and the sisterhood that you are a part of, nobody will even notice that it's a "lower-tier" house."

I thought that those were great words of advice and I wish more girls would recognize this!

This x 1,000!

She said so few words what I was trying to explain above :)

I can appreciate what you are saying about taking pride in your sorority. I agree with 100% on this but, it's as if you are insinuating that these young women in these "weak" chapters do not already do some of this stuff. I know that some of these "weak" chapters at Penn State-University Park, have girls just like your sister that you talked about. I know this for a fact. You have to also remember that your frame of reference is different from what may be going on at other schools. A branch campus sorority recruitment is vastly different to what goes on at University Park. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Thankfully, there aren't any websites that "rank" the tiers at branch campuses of PSU. Girls really should take pride in their organization but, you don't know what these chapters are doing for PR. You can't really compare the two.

Whether we like it or not, there will always be "tier" talk--which is stupid. Girls just have to remember that what may be TOP on their campus is actually BOTTOM on another campus, even nearby. Sorority reputation changes from campus to campus and region to region. Certain chapters that are top at PSU struggle or have struggled at both my graduate school alma maters. One of the "bottom" chapters at PSU is actually the "top" chapter at the school I am attending now. You can't let tier talk get to you because, at the end of the day, if you look like a hot mess walking around in your letters and you don't take pride in your appearance--people are going to judge you (and unfortunately) and your organization.

You got invited back to 12 chapters! That is great! Go into each chapter with an open heart and an open mind. I am positive that each of the 12 groups that you have on your schedule have wondeful things to offer.

Remember, every single sorority has philanthropy, leadership opportunities, social events and sisterhood. The letters, colors and ritual are truly the only real differences.

Enjoy FFR...have fun and be yourself! Sorority membership is such an awesome life-long experience...I can't wait to see where you end up :)

Exactly to this. Knowing you're doing that particular behavior, knowing that it's not quite right, and still doing it......... like my daughter says "whatever". I'm sorry I just think it's rude and condescending.

I do appreciate everyone's advice and comments. I really like the story about the girl who wore her letters a lot and showed what her sorority truly was. And I agree with some of you guys who said I shouldn't of been rude. But I don't really prefer a lecture because what's done is done.

I am still open-minded but I'm not as excited about the process as I was since I got my list back for second rounds. The bad thing for me was that literally every chapter I liked, including my favorites and my maybes, all didn't ask me back. It was rough not to even have that "at least one I like" to hold on to.

Aside from that, pref night is tonight. Hope it goes well! I'll write up second rounds when I get back hopefully!

Nittanyville, it's totally ok to be a little disappointed. Most of us have been disappointed at one time or another throughout our lives. It's what you do with the disappointment that defines your character. If you go to the chapters with an open mind and still don't feel a connection to even one of them, then at least you gave it your best shot. If you go in with an open mind and feel like you might be able to grow with one of your options, then that's great too. All you can do is to try. Best wishes to you this evening! I hope that you're able to go in with an open mind and an open heart.

I was definitely more open minded last rounds and I hope to be the same tonight!! Thank you!!!

Have fun, Nittany! Don't stress out so much about it and just sort of let it happen.

Hey guys!

Ok, second rounds! 40 minute parties for the sisterhood round. Maximum you could get back was 8. These parties were spread across two days.

Lilo & Stitch - I liked this one a lot better! Their sisterhood video was very cute. However, I was still pretty upset about getting dropped and I kept tearing up during the party.

Toy Story - I had a much much better time here today! The second girl I talked to was awesome! The conversation flowed easily and she really spoke a lot about her sisterhood and she seemed really genuine.

Hercules - I got another girl that rushed me but I'm not sure if she remembered. She was nice, but she was really pushing sorority life. It felt like I was being fed a pitch by a sales(wo)man instead of having a conversation.

Enchanted - Don't worry guys, I was nice this time. I got the same girl as last time but she didn't remember me. I was triple rushed and the seating arrangement was very physically uncomfortable. In the beginning I asked a few questions and the sister took off. Eventually she started naturally talking with the other two girls because they were responding to each other more. I really don't want to be in this one.

Aladdin - I actually knew the girl that rushed me but she didn't remember me I guess. Conversation started off really average but it got better as the went on. Someone almost saw me that I knew but she didn't, which I think is good. I wouldn't mind this chapter.

My bottom two were:
1. Hercules
2. Enchanted

Pref night you can get back a maximum of 3.

I just got my list back and I have a break before my first party (which is why I'm typing this now haha).

I got back:
Hercules
Enchanted
Toy Story

I wasn't surprised, but I was really relieved to get Toy Story. Wish me luck! I'm so exhausted haha.

- Nittanyville