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TPA85 06-04-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2219562)
Question - for college graduation, did anyone NOT wear a black gown? All Penn State students wear blue, and as far as I can remember (from pictures of all my friends' ceremonies), it's the only school I've seen that doesn't have black gowns.

At my university, undergrads wore dark green. Only those graduating with advanced degrees wore black.

ASTalumna06 06-04-2013 02:37 AM

Ironically, here's another one I just came across in Football Fan's latest thread, 'Tri Delta Sisters'... James Madison University apparently graduates in purple and gold:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps3f71e4e9.jpg

AGDee 06-04-2013 06:00 AM

I think the young women with gold hoods and tassels graduated with honors because a few of them have white.

I wore black when I graduated from college but now they wear the college's green color.

carnation 06-04-2013 07:38 AM

The black is often used at colleges because it accentuates the colors of the professors' hoods. I like mine, the velvet is sapphire blue while the inside is maroon and white.

ASTalumna06 06-04-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2219601)
I think the young women with gold hoods and tassels graduated with honors because a few of them have white.

Yes, this is what I assumed, also.

Gusteau 06-04-2013 09:28 AM

My university graduates in green - I hated it. To me colors have always been high schooly and black is for universities. I take some consolation in the fact that they switched to a darker green the year I graduated. It was much nicer than the brighter green they used previously. From what I can remember from pictures, George Mason students have always graduated in green.

In two years I will finally get to graduate in black, but I think I'm most excited for that light blue hood with the red and black lining!

lovespink88 06-04-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 2219610)
My university graduates in green - I hated it. To me colors have always been high schooly and black is for universities.

I am so with you!!! U of I used to use black--my cousin graduated in 2005 and she's wearing a black cap and gown in pictures I have seen. Somewhere between then and 2010, when I graduated, they switched to blue. The gowns are nicer so I guess it's fine, but I would have preferred black.

lilykkg 06-04-2013 09:45 AM

This thread is the first time I ever heard of renting graduation gowns. I wish those were options at the schools my brother and I attended. The only gown my parents didn't have to pay out of pocket for was my high school gown, that was included in our tuition.

Sciencewoman 06-04-2013 10:52 AM

When I got my Ph.D., I bought my cap, gown, and hood. It cost about $400 for the ensemble, 14 years ago. It has my initials embroidered in the gown. It was an investment, because I do wear it for convocation and graduation every year. Some of my fellow professors have school colors...our Dean graduated from Ohio State, and her gown is whatever that red color is from "that school." I've also seen purple for a Northwestern Ph.D. professor, with ermine-type collar/trim. That's the fanciest gown I've ever seen...and he wore it with jeans and beat up tennis shoes!

Here's a bit of hood trivia that I learned from an older professor: in earlier times, professors at European universities taught in their academic regalia. When the professor recessed down the aisle following class, students paid the professor by putting money in the pocket at the back of the hood. Academic hoods for professors are still made this way, with a pocket at the bottom. The interior colors indicate the school colors of the university where the doctorate was received, and the velvet signifies the subject area of the degree (light blue = education, kelly green = medicine, etc.)

carnation 06-04-2013 11:18 AM

Yeah, when I'm at graduations I spend time trying to figure out where the professors got their degrees. Sometimes I realize I'm wrong because I'll think, for instance, "OK, that's Jacksonville State--nope, they don't offer that doctorate, let's see..." It's fun and kills a lot of time.

I bought my regalia when I got my Ph.D. too; that paid for itself rapidly. I wonder which colors are put in the hoods of those stupid online universities from which a lot of educators are now buying their degrees?

FSUZeta 06-04-2013 11:55 AM

I vaguely remember by youngest aunt wearing a white cap and gown when she graduated from HS in the 60's. The young men wore medium blue, the same color I wore when i graduated from the same HS years later. College was black.

My daughter had a dark green cap and gown for her HS graduation. My son graduated from a different HS and they wore black. Both kids wore black at college-they rented their cap/gown from the campus bookstore.

Daughter did not walk when she finished her masters, but she did buy the hood and the gown(Black) because she knew, as a HS teacher, she would need to wear it for graduations. Son has not completed his masters yet, so don't know what color FSU is wearing now-I assume black like when I was there.

Good question about the online colleges. I imagine that they have colors.

carnation 06-04-2013 11:58 AM

They probably have green dollar signs instead of colors.

irishpipes 06-04-2013 12:28 PM

I went to an all-girls Catholic school. Everyone wore white gowns that were rented - no decorating or individualization allowed. Returning them was part of the requirement to get your real diploma (the diploma case we received at graduation was empty, ensuring proper behavior at graduation.) We were required to wear a dress underneath and hosiery. The dress code enforced til the very end!

NHS members got gold tassels and cords which we got to keep. Everyone got to keep her tassel.

FSUZeta 06-04-2013 03:44 PM

If we had not moved from Tulsa my kids would most likely have continued to attend the school they were attending when we moved. The female graduates wear white floor length dresses(debutante style) and the male graduates wear black tuxedos. They all look amazing.

BraveMaroon 06-04-2013 05:59 PM

Or HS had girls in white, boys in dark green. On top of that, the gowns were so cheap that the girls were required to wear a white dress or white skirt/blouse underneath.

This wasn't a total loss - I took my white dress with me to college and wore it for ritual for another four years.

I graduated college early, and walked only in my departmental ceremony wearing a gray wool dress. black stockings and heels. Which I wore the hell out of to job interviews for the next few years.

StealthMode 06-04-2013 07:01 PM

In both my hs and college graduations, everyone wore a black robe. I've only been to 2 graduations where boys and girls wear different colors. For example, at my cousin's graduation, the boys wore white and the girls wore baby blue, the school's 2 colors. But I don't think it's super common in this area.

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2219426)
Where did this come from? I think it's dumb. And especially in an age where there are more transgender and genderqueer students, wouldn't it just be simpler to have everybody in one color?

This is the very first time I've ever heard of this happening but I just so happened to come across it after seeing this thread: http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/hig...192900808.html

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And in New Mexico, a transgender student was essentially pushed out of his commencement ceremony by being told he had to wear a white robe, for girls, instead of a black robe, for boys, at the private St. Pius X school. As a result, the student, Damian Garcia, chose to skip it.

ASTalumna06 06-04-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode (Post 2219691)
This is the very first time I've ever heard of this happening but I just so happened to come across it after seeing this thread: http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/hig...192900808.html

All of the other stories included in this article are just as ridiculous. A feather hanging from your grad cap gets you a $1,000 fine?! Please.

happilyanchored 06-04-2013 07:47 PM

Girls at my high school graduated in white, boys in blue. Definitely had to wear a white or nude dress underneath otherwise it would NOT look good.

And then I'm REALLY not looking forward to graduating in bright green in two years. I agree that black should be for college, with maybe a touch of the school colors. Or if it has to be in a school color, pick the one that's more normal. If you had the choice between red and green, why on earth would you pick the bright green!??

StealthMode 06-04-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2219694)
All of the other stories included in this article are just as ridiculous. A feather hanging from your grad cap gets you a $1,000 fine?! Please.

I totally agree but tried to refrain from derailing the thread with my rant! lol

PhoenixAzul 06-04-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2219517)
The thing about caps and gowns: is there a person alive who looks good in a mortar board?

One of the many great things about graduating from one of the Ancient Universities of Scotland: nae motarboards of any kind. Instead of caps, you get wacked on the head by the principal of the university with a cushion ("Te creatoreum Magistrum Litteras" I think that's what it was...basically "I create you Master of Letters, Doctor of Philosophy, etc) then some guy hooks you over the head with your hood, then you receive your parchment, shake the guy's hand, snap a picture, and on ye go. Fun fact: the colors of our hoods derived from the flowers of Scotland...with Doctors of Philosophy getting the purple of the thistle. As postgraduates, our hoods are MASSIVE, and our sleeves have a cutout to them. Scottish universities (and british universities in general) wear their gowns open. Typically, british graduates don't go in for any of the additional bling that Americans do, with honor chords and such.

Looks like this
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...Picture001.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...375_4877_n.jpg

As an undergraduate: robes were black, as is the tradition, with open sleeves (bell sleeves). Not traditionally, we wore hoods, with trim indicating our degree (BA, BS, BFA, BSN, etc) and interior silk with the tan and cardinal of our university.

Looks like this:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...ningset027.jpg

My public high school did the "white for girls, alternate color for the guys" thing, and it was tragic.

To the best of my knowledge, the reasons for the black gown and hoods was to recall the monastic origins of the education system.

PhoenixAzul 06-04-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2219622)

Here's a bit of hood trivia that I learned from an older professor: in earlier times, professors at European universities taught in their academic regalia. When the professor recessed down the aisle following class, students paid the professor by putting money in the pocket at the back of the hood. Academic hoods for professors are still made this way, with a pocket at the bottom. The interior colors indicate the school colors of the university where the doctorate was received, and the velvet signifies the subject area of the degree (light blue = education, kelly green = medicine, etc.)

Some still do! Cambridge/Oxford (St. Andrews? maybe? Violet help me out here?) staff do occasionally teach and/or go about their days in their academic dress.

NinjaPoodle 06-04-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 2219533)
We rented our gowns. Everyone wore blue. I'm really glad we didn't do "boys in one school color, girls in the other" because our other school color was orange and nobody looks good in orange. (Well, at least I don't. LOL)

My high school (public) colors are orange and navy blue. I have to say, the girls looked great in the orange. The guys looked great in the blue. :) The girls had white collars to attach to the gown. We bought ours. Since I actually graduated from summer school, all the kids wore white gowns with the tassel from their home school. It was a district wide graduation. So, I have two set of gowns.

The honor/CSF (California Scholarship Federation) students got to keep their cords and/or sashes.

For college, I wore black for my Jr. college graduation. We bought them. I know that City College of San Francisco has switched from red to black every now and then. School colors are red and white.

Since my current school (Academy of Art) uses black, I will re-use the one I have from CCSF since we have to buy them.

The universities I attended but transferred out of:
Grambling State: All wear black. School colors are Black and Gold.
SFSU: All wear purple. School colors are Purple and Gold.

MysticCat 06-04-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lilykkg (Post 2219612)
This thread is the first time I ever heard of renting graduation gowns. I wish those were options at the schools my brother and I attended. The only gown my parents didn't have to pay out of pocket for was my high school gown, that was included in our tuition.

I bought my high school gown but rented for college and law school graduation.

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2219622)
Academic hoods for professors are still made this way, with a pocket at the bottom. The interior colors indicate the school colors of the university where the doctorate was received, and the velvet signifies the subject area of the degree (light blue = education, kelly green = medicine, etc.)

The degree-granting school is actually indicated by the colors and the way those colors are arranged. For example one school may be indicated by red with one white chevron while another is indicated by red and two white chevrons, while yet another might be white with a red chevron. All 3 are red and white, but in different designs.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul (Post 2219702)
To the best of my knowledge, the reasons for the black gown and hoods was to recall the monastic origins of the education system.

Right; academic dress is derived from medieval clerical dress, since the faculty of European universities were clergy.

I've always preferred the British style of academic dress (and, to bring it back to clergy, the Scottish style of Geneva gown) to the American styles.

aephi alum 06-05-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul (Post 2219703)
Some still do! Cambridge/Oxford (St. Andrews? maybe? Violet help me out here?) staff do occasionally teach and/or go about their days in their academic dress.

My mother attended St Andrews in the late 1950s/early 1960s. Never mind the professors - students wore academic gowns to class - every day. First-year students were required to wear their gowns buttoned up to the neck line. Second-year students could unbutton the top button. I believe this is still the case. On the up side, it means you didn't really need to own a coat - a nice thick wool robe could get you through a fiercely cold Scottish winter.

GammaGirl1908 06-05-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JayhawkAOII (Post 2219469)
What I find fascinating is that at the majority of the private schools here, the girls wear long white ball gowns, almost like debutante dresses. It is apparently a long standing tradition with the majority of schools.

We did this at my private school, BUT it wasn't at graduation. We wore white caps and gowns at graduation, which was on a Sunday, but the day before, on Saturday, we had an elaborate prize ceremony where we wore long white deb-like dresses, carried long-stemmed red roses, and participated in several other traditions.

Sen's Revenge 06-05-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GammaGirl1908 (Post 2219737)
We did this at my private school, BUT it wasn't at graduation. We wore white caps and gowns at graduation, which was on a Sunday, but the day before, on Saturday, we had an elaborate prize ceremony where we wore long white deb-like dresses, carried long-stemmed red roses, and participated in several other traditions.

Sounds a little like Madeira.

TSteven 06-05-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2219747)
Sounds a little like Madeira.

I was thinking the same thing.

I attended a graduation commencement at The Maderia School for the cousin of a good friend. I remember well the full-length white dresses and long-stemmed red roses as the girls walked down into the amphitheatre.

http://landauinjurylaw.com/wp-conten...9/DSCF4857.JPG

ASTaulove 06-05-2013 11:34 PM

I went to a private boarding school that is co-ed and for graduation the girls also wore white dresses but they didn't have to be long. Most girls wore dresses that were knee length, and basically the only rule we had to follow was they needed to be pure white and not off white. The boys wore white pants, a white dress shirt, a red tie, and a navy blazer (our school colors were red and navy). We didn't have caps, and they just gave us a tassel with our diploma.

sweetongreek 06-06-2013 12:06 AM

I also went to a private high school and the girls also wore white dresses (and carried bouquets) for the commencement ceremony. I wore a long, white lace dress and ordered this lovely arrangement of sweet peas and ivy. The boys wore their dress uniforms.

MysticCat 06-06-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul (Post 2219703)
Some still do! Cambridge/Oxford (St. Andrews? maybe? Violet help me out here?) staff do occasionally teach and/or go about their days in their academic dress.

Do some faculty and students at Sewanee still wear gowns to class? And do male students still wear coat and tie to class?

navane 06-08-2013 09:04 PM

My high school colors were navy blue and gray, with white used often as an accent. Graduates of both genders wore navy blue robes and caps with navy and gray tassels. Honor roll graduates wore gray robes and caps with gold tassels. The salutatorians and valedictorian wore white robes and caps with gold tassels.


For my bachelor's degree at Cal State Long Beach, we all wore black caps and gowns with the color of the tassel indicating the subject area of the degree.


On an interesting side note, after getting my B.A. and doing postgraduate studies overseas, I went back and completed an Associates Degree in Fire Protection Technology. At the community college, the graduates wore the typical black cap and gown. However, Fire Technology students have a long-standing, special tradition of wearing fire helmets instead of caps! Yes, we hung our tassels right from the side of the fire helmets. We got a lot of attention and the professional photographers had a field day taking pictures of our group.


http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6...rgradgroup.jpg


Those who didn't work for a department yet wore the college's fire helmets which are used during classes and training. Those of us who already work for a fire department wore our own helmets. That's why some have different colored helmets in the photo. The guy in the red helmet is a Captain who went back to get his degree! And, BTW, I am first on the left in the top row, yellow helmet. :)

agzg 06-08-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2219601)
I think the young women with gold hoods and tassels graduated with honors because a few of them have white.

I wore black when I graduated from college but now they wear the college's green color.

Something happened here and my comment didn't take. The colors probably refer to their major, rather than honors/not honors. If following academic regalia guidelines, the hood color refers on the front there to the major, and would have the school's colors on the inside. My hood graduating from Gannon was gold on the front referring to my major, maroon and gold on the inside in the back referring to my university. If I were to attend graduation for another college as faculty and dress in regalia, I'd wear the hood/gown appropriate to the university where I obtained my highest degree. Since I didn't attend graduation for my Master's, I don't even know what it looks like, but it's definitely blue and gold on the inside, and longer than the one for my B.A..

For colleges, while some wear other colors (which is great), the typical is black following "accepted" regalia. It's actually pretty rigid.


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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2219635)
Good question about the online colleges. I imagine that they have colors.

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2219636)
They probably have green dollar signs instead of colors.

They wear black, typically, with hoods signifying the type of degree and the university's colors (Maroon for University of Phoenix, etc.). And if you think any of them are making money right now... ha.

ASTalumna06 06-08-2013 10:31 PM

^ Confused. When did I make the comment about online colleges?

agzg 06-08-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2220256)
^ Confused. When did I make the comment about online colleges?

Not sure - I quoted it... there was also a photo I quoted but clearly my absence from GC has led me to technological stupidity, as only half of the comments I multi-quoted made it, and only half of my original comment.


Ahhh looks like it was a comment from FSUZeta? Trying to fix now.

ASTalumna06 06-08-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2220257)
Not sure - I quoted it... there was also a photo I quoted but clearly my absence from GC has led me to technological stupidity, as only half of the comments I multi-quoted made it, and only half of my original comment.

Hm...

I said this:

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2219607)
Yes, this is what I assumed, also.

in response to AGDee's comment. I don't know where the online college thing came from! lol

agzg 06-08-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2220259)
Hm...

I said this:



in response to AGDee's comment. I don't know where the online college thing came from! lol

I think I fixed it! It definitely wasn't you though! Maybe I have fat fingers and deleted too much, LOL.

ASTalumna06 06-09-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2220261)
I think I fixed it! It definitely wasn't you though! Maybe I have fat fingers and deleted too much, LOL.

Haha. It's all good. I seriously thought for a minute, though, that I had posted something last night that I didn't remember posting. I had only a couple drinks, but still thought, "Maybe I had more.. and I was drunk posting.." lol

agzg 06-09-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2220269)
Haha. It's all good. I seriously thought for a minute, though, that I had posted something last night that I didn't remember posting. I had only a couple drinks, but still thought, "Maybe I had more.. and I was drunk posting.." lol

Nope! Clearly I was drunk posting.

GammaGirl1908 06-10-2013 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge (Post 2219747)
Sounds a little like Madeira.

Almost! One of Madeira's competitors, actually. Over the years I played many a softball and volleyball game against Madeira, and also lost a few classmates to Madeira because they wanted to be near horses.

But I believe there are quite a few DC-area private girls' schools that find an excuse to dress the graduates up in wedding dresses and give them bouquets. :rolleyes:


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