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maconmagnolia 04-19-2013 08:40 AM

Are you sure that is her twitter? Her twitter name is Rebecca, but in the letter she refers to herself as Julia.

AlphaFrog 04-19-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2213546)
I second/third/fourth the idea that I'm over the moon that the Internet was in it's infancy when I was a collegiate. This girl fancies herself a foul mouthed comedienne which I'm sure explains her off color missive. You can tell by her wannabe Tosh.0 twitter posts. I get her point, though she and many other collegiates like her haven't figured out that once you hit send, you can never get those embarrassing words back. Those chapter list serves are not that private. Incriminating emails have been the downfall of more than one chapter with regard to risk management and PR. I do say shame to the sister that released the email...not for standing up to her but for doing it in a way that shames DG. Uncalled for.

P.S. oMG..someone at DG UMD shut down your moon fruit page for god's sake!

What's a moon fruit?

Titchou 04-19-2013 09:52 AM

It's a web site provider.

SWTXBelle 04-19-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2213555)
What's a moon fruit?



http://dgumd.moonfruit.com/

33girl 04-19-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by maconmagnolia (Post 2213553)
Are you sure that is her twitter? Her twitter name is Rebecca, but in the letter she refers to herself as Julia.

"Julia" is a fake name that Gawker used to make readabllity easier.

And except for the cussing and slurs...SHE'S 100% IN THE RIGHT. If you're going to be a bump on a log at events, stay home. If you're at any sort of fraternity pairing, you don't talk about other fraternities. If you honestly say things like "I'm too sober to talk to guys" then you are pretty pathetic.

I'm fairly sure that this exact attitude is being disseminated at chapters across the country as we speak.

amIblue? 04-19-2013 10:23 AM

The whole thing to me still screams fake. The hacking of the website, the Julia vs Rebecca name discrepancy, etc. I know DG will handle this with grace and efficiency, whether it be true or false. If it is true, then I regret my earlier laughter, despite agreeing with her basic thesis of participation.

33girl 04-19-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2213565)
The whole thing to me still screams fake. The hacking of the website, the Julia vs Rebecca name discrepancy, etc. I know DG will handle this with grace and efficiency, whether it be true or false. If it is true, then I regret my earlier laughter.

It's not a "discrepancy." Gawker said from the jump that it was using a fake name.

ComradesTrue 04-19-2013 10:25 AM

I really don't think the website was hacked. Their HQ, the greek life page, etc do not list a website for the chapter. I think someone simply created the site yesterday, and it pops up at the top of all searches because there isn't a real one to compete with.

LXA SE285 04-19-2013 10:54 AM

An interpretive reading:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQB812PtvgE

amIblue? 04-19-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 2213567)
I really don't think the website was hacked. Their HQ, the greek life page, etc do not list a website for the chapter. I think someone simply created the site yesterday, and it pops up at the top of all searches because there isn't a real one to compete with.

I viewed the same website yesterday after reading the story, and it did not have all the garbage it has now. It appeared to me to be legitimate when I first saw it. Now, not so much.

agzg 04-19-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 2213522)
Dang, GC, I spend ... way too much time ... digging through my old harddrive and flashdrives to find my old password and user name files so I can sign back in here, and there's only 3 pages in this thread?? I'm disappointed, not gonna lie.

More disturbing, however, is I see an ad on the lefthand side of the page for a company named "Uranus Greek Lettering". Really? Someone let that happen?

I KNEW THE THREAT OF "CUNT PUNTING" SOMEONE WOULD BRING YOU BACK!

jazing 04-19-2013 11:28 AM

I have no doubt in my mind that this is a real email sent out.

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Originally Posted by LXA SE285 (Post 2213571)

Quite a funny video. Thanks for posting it.

peppermint23 04-19-2013 12:54 PM

I think it's definitely real. The girl who wrote the email deleted her Facebook, and people I know who go to Maryland know who she is...

jazing 04-19-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by peppermint23 (Post 2213590)
I think it's definitely real. The girl who wrote the email deleted her Facebook, and people I know who go to Maryland know who she is...

She deleted her FB too? Well than this must be ruining her life I guess ...

Whoever leaked the email could probably be brought up to Standards or whatever they have for un-sisterly conduct.

amIblue? 04-19-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2213592)
She deleted her FB too? Well than this must be ruining her life I guess ...

Whoever leaked the email could probably be brought up to Standards or whatever they have for un-sisterly conduct.

Yes, clearly the standards committee should be focused on the one who leaked it. :rolleyes:

LXA SE285 04-19-2013 01:48 PM

The Betches have spoken.

http://www.betcheslovethis.com/artic...rebecca-dg-umd

KDCat 04-19-2013 01:49 PM

John Stewart referred to the US Senate as a "bunch of cunt punters" last night. Then he added "That's trademarked by Delta Gamma, by the way."

Kevin 04-19-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2213593)
Yes, clearly the standards committee should be focused on the one who leaked it. :rolleyes:

EVERY chapter of every GLO has dirty laundry.

There are mechanisms to deal with it like Standards.

What you never do is air your dirty laundry (unless it's something your'e required to do by HQ rules, the law, etc.)

jazing 04-19-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2213593)
Yes, clearly the standards committee should be focused on the one who leaked it. :rolleyes:

Honestly yes. Just because there is a strongly worded letter like Kevin said you don't know what is acceptable for their culture. I can see this being an acceptable form of critique for a group of college aged girls. Sometimes you need to yell and scream at people to get them to do things. This was strongly worded indeed, but I'm sure it got the message across and ended whatever issues there were. The person who leaked it however ruined this girls life (more so that is was). Ruining someones life is quite a bid deal IMO.

adpiucf 04-19-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2213604)
EVERY chapter of every GLO has dirty laundry.

There are mechanisms to deal with it like Standards.

What you never do is air your dirty laundry (unless it's something your'e required to do by HQ rules, the law, etc.)

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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2213607)
Honestly yes. Just because there is a strongly worded letter like Kevin said you don't know what is acceptable for their culture. I can see this being an acceptable form of critique for a group of college aged girls. Sometimes you need to yell and scream at people to get them to do things. This was strongly worded indeed, but I'm sure it got the message across and ended whatever issues there were. The person who leaked it however ruined this girls life (more so that is was). Ruining someones life is quite a bid deal IMO.

The "culture" of their chapter? Really? It is NEVER acceptable for anyone to talk to another human being this way. NEVER. I'm not too worried about this vapid and shallow little girl's life being ruined. Something tells me she will be fine after this period of humiliation dies down and will go on being her obnoxious and important self.

No one should air dirty laundry, but it is highly unlikely that anyone from the chapter forwarded this email to the press.

amIblue? 04-19-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2213604)
EVERY chapter of every GLO has dirty laundry.

There are mechanisms to deal with it like Standards.

What you never do is air your dirty laundry (unless it's something your'e required to do by HQ rules, the law, etc.)

In a word, DUH. Every chapter has dirty laundry. Yes, I would want to address the one who leaked it via standards, but again, not knowing the chapter culture, the member could have not felt that this was a viable option.

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Originally Posted by jazing (Post 2213607)
Honestly yes. Just because there is a strongly worded letter like Kevin said you don't know what is acceptable for their culture. I can see this being an acceptable form of critique for a group of college aged girls. Sometimes you need to yell and scream at people to get them to do things. This was strongly worded indeed, but I'm sure it got the message across and ended whatever issues there were. The person who leaked it however ruined this girls life (more so that is was). Ruining someones life is quite a bid deal IMO.

There is not an NPC organization that will deem this as an acceptable culture for any of their chapters. Period. As typical, you're conflating what you know of your fraternity life with sorority experience. It's apples and oranges.

The issues dealing with participation and enthusiasm for chapter events that the woman was trying to address are not unusual for chapters of sororities anywhere. If the only way that a leader can motivate others is to curse at them, call them names, and generally be derogatory, then the wrong person has been given a leadership role.

This ended no issues; it only made existing issues exponentially worse. I don't believe this girl's life is ruined in any shape or form. However, she has no one to blame for any repercussions she may experience but herself. She could have effectively expressed the same sentiments in other effective ways.

It still reads to me as a bid for a job on a reality show or as a writer, etc. I hear a bit of Jen Lancaster and Tucker Max in the tone.

Kevin 04-19-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 2213619)
The "culture" of their chapter? Really? It is NEVER acceptable for anyone to talk to another human being this way. NEVER. I'm not too worried about this vapid and shallow little girl's life being ruined. Something tells me she will be fine after this period of humiliation dies down and will go on being her obnoxious and important self.

You seem to not deal with the same collegians many of us deal with. Language like this doesn't occur on our FB group and certainly wouldn't be condoned, but if it happened, I'd probably want to give the writer a high 5 for some awesomely hilarious writing (because it really is funny as hell), but we'd have a discussion about how social media is forever and things like this don't always stay in-house (remember that DG from UM?)

Not knowing the context, the email could be a satirical, ironic pep talk in the middle of Greek Week. We just don't know. Now if every word of that was heart felt and she meant to truly imply her sisters were terrible people, etc., that's quite another thing, but again, it's Delta Gamma's business.

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No one should air dirty laundry, but it is highly unlikely that anyone from the chapter forwarded this email to the press.
Someone forwarded it out of house. I doubt the sharer even had malicious intent. The email was hilarious and was likely shared for that reason.

Sciencewoman 04-19-2013 04:07 PM

I thought it was horribly tacky and inappropriate, and I didn't find it to be funny at all. I know my daughter's chapter would never send anything like this. I'm sure the members of the chapter I advise would never send out anything like this. If this wasn't an aberration and unusual behavior, it wouldn't have been leaked and blown up like it did.

What I found ironic was that the whole point of the email was to encourage positive PR and fraternal relations...and this email blew up because it did just the opposite.

Shellfish 04-19-2013 05:30 PM

It is discussed on the national Facebook page.

KillarneyRose 04-19-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2213634)

You have to admit "Give me a nickel and I'll tickle your pickle" is pretty clever

minDyG 04-19-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2213650)
Damn. What a shame. Good for the national group for responding quickly.

Has EO responded? I haven't seen a statement.

Titchou 04-19-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by minDyG (Post 2213670)
Has EO responded? I haven't seen a statement.

It's on their FB page and has been since yesterday.

nittanyalum 04-19-2013 10:38 PM

Haha, NOW there's a little more spunk in the thread! I mean, really, who DIDN'T have this girl in their chapter? We all can picture a face on this email from any year, any decade. But these kids need a big old slap of reality about (a) putting every feeling they have every moment in all its vitriolic glory in writing, and (b) putting it in an electronic format. The internetz are forever and they are mean. And to be honest, this little girl in particular, based on her Twitter history in addition to this email gem, just needed a big old slap to cut the crap out. Heather Chandler threw a hissy when her friend puked at a Remington party and we all know how things worked out for her.

I also don't blame the supposed someone who "leaked" it - God knows how and how fast this got around before it landed at Gawker or whoever posted it first. I for sure would have forwarded that email just to share the hilarity of her complete over-the-topness with friends. Once that first person hits "forward" (and I bet a bunch of girls hit that forward button), it belongs to the world. The intertubes are fast and did I mention they're mean?

And HI! everyone who remembered me! I wondered if I'd been away too long, but you're right agzg, this story got me all types of reminiscent for GC - that was just pure gold from that young lady's dainty fingertips! ;)

TriDeltaSallie 04-19-2013 10:40 PM

When sorority life reaches the point where a letter like this is considered appropriate for any chapter's culture, I will no longer identify myself as a sorority woman or encourage any woman to join a sorority.

As far as the woman who leaked it, maybe she was tired of being verbally abused. That's what this is. There is no other way to spin it. And if this writer is an example of the chapter leadership and how they handle things, I can see why the letter was leaked.

KitKat58 04-19-2013 10:47 PM

From the Maryland student newspaper.

http://www.diamondbackonline.com/new...a4bcf6878.html

nittanyalum 04-19-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2213551)
And what? Do you have a problem with a planetary company that does G℞ΣΣΚ LΣΤΤΣ℞ΦΠG?

HA! It's all over the place - ack! And hiiiiiiiiiiii MC!!! :cool::D:p

nittanyalum 04-19-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KitKat58 (Post 2213686)
From the Maryland student newspaper.

http://www.diamondbackonline.com/new...a4bcf6878.html

That poor Communications Director can't be having a good week.

On the plus side, pretty house.

lovespink88 04-19-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2213634)

WHY oh WHY did anyone think that was a good idea?? A HOMELESS theme?

Sister Havana 04-20-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2213634)

Ugggh...my alma mater...not cool.

ETA: A great response from IU on Strike.

Titchou 04-20-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Havana (Post 2213739)
Ugggh...my alma mater...not cool.

ETA: A great response from IU on Strike.

Great article and very well said.

maconmagnolia 04-20-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie (Post 2213685)
When sorority life reaches the point where a letter like this is considered appropriate for any chapter's culture, I will no longer identify myself as a sorority woman or encourage any woman to join a sorority.

I agree. Stuff like this is why some people dislike Greeks.

Woof 04-20-2013 08:05 PM

When I was an Active, we had a brother who was exactly like this. This would be exactly how he would try and get a point across if he was frustrated by the actives lack of effort. He always got things done though, and it was just widely accepted that when he got a little too excited this is how he would act. It was part of his character, and his character is what added to our chapter. So despite everything, we loved him. Pretty sure this happens in chapters everywhere. Of course it never occurred during chapter meetings, but in informal settings, such as texts, I think it is fine. What isn't fine is that it got leaked. This is how she talked to her SISTERS. Some of the closest people in her life, theoretically. Shouldn't have to be censored when you're with family.

It was intended for her sisters, and not for anyone else. I believe it should be read that way.

thetalady 04-20-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Woof (Post 2213794)
This is how she talked to her SISTERS. Some of the closest people in her life, theoretically. Shouldn't have to be censored when you're with family.

Seriously? You would ask your biological sister, cousins... or your mother if they were retarded or threaten to "cunt punt" them?

SWTXBelle 04-20-2013 09:08 PM

Any family member who talked like that to me once wouldn't get a chance to do it a second time.

Katmandu 04-20-2013 09:35 PM

Yea, I'm amazed at the acceptance level for this....the "awe ain't that hilarious"? attitude. I'm not a pearl clutcher but this isn't how you talk to sisters, enemies or anyone. Taken with the abysmal party theme at IU, it's a bad PR week for sororities and the girls have no one to blame but themselves. I know that at least one national is taking their situation very seriously.


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