who said they get approval OVER other organizations? they chose to protest a cause they felt was just. just like any other organization. i have yet to insinuate that they speak for all asians. they speak for their organization. there may be a group such as "asians for whites dressing as gieshas" that may be completely cool about this party. if they are, they should come out and do a counter protest.

you can demand whatever you want, whether or not it occurs is a different matter. free speech works both ways. don't get mad for being called a bigot when you say or do something that makes you look like a bigot.

just because asians en masse don't have to worry about getting pulled over or getting denied a home loan, doesn't mean that it's cool to run around saying stuff like herro or dressing like a sumo wrestler.

Right, so it doesn't support what you keep saying about how the ASA is making itself look dumb. (And it is hardly specific about the action desired.) So, that quote isn't evidence of your allegations.

Read more carefully next time. The water buffalo incident was at Penn, not Duke. So again, no evidence of your allegations.

I'm very familiar with the Duke Lacrosse fiasco. It started when criminal charges (rape) were brought against the players by the DA. Comparing this incident to the lacrosse case is comparing apples to pumpkins. Citing it would only be relevant if faculty took similar actions against Eta Prime. Any evidence that ASA is advocating that? I sure haven't seen any.

Context Kevin, context. The statement is that they want serious things to be done by the student body and the University because things like this keep happening. Given that a student body has no power to discipline, and given the other quotes and statements calling for conversation and changes in attitude and understanding, it takes less speculation to read the "serious things" statements as a call for conversations that will change campus culture than it does to read them as calls for University sanctions.

Again, statements of one person =/= statements of an organization, and 700 students at a rally =/= do not equal actions of an organization that didn't plan or sponsor the rally. And while we're at it, one rally =/= "day after day" of protest.

(And to set the record straight, the only demand that I saw in the Chronicle report where anyone said an organization should be disbanded was where a freshman said the ASA should be disbanded.)


Good grief Kevin. If you want to think there's overreacting going on, fine. Certainly one can discuss whether other means of protest might have been more effective or appeared more (or less) reasonable. And we get that you want to characterize this as just college kids playing dress up, even though the reports, including the statement of the president of Eta Prime, all indicate that there is more to it than that.

But your efforts to castigate those who are offended by lumping them all together (as "the ASA") and accusing them of overreacting based on nothing more than your own assumptions and biases is transparently feckless. And frankly, your pronouncement that no one has any reason to be offended to begin with just comes off as jackassism.

This is funny...

If white people make fun of Asians, and Asians get upset, we say they're overreacting.

If white people make fun of Blacks, and Blacks get upset, we scream Racism!

I would love to know how people would react if they wore black face paint and ate chicken and watermelon.

It's okay to say the "C" word but don't ever say the "N" word.
Asians are so sensitive...geez...

I love how Kevin the moderator is telling a bunch of Asians to stop being so sensitive.

I love when a non-minority tells minorities to stop being so sensitive.

I think the next party should be a Mexican party with border patrol cops and maids.

LOL.

Already been done and the sorority chapter was put on probation and the national organization issued an apology.

I agree, if a minority is offended, who are we to tell them they have no right to be offended? I think the group involved is more ignorant than willfully racist against asians. They obviously got the idea from America World Police. I can see where they thought that if Trey Parker and Matt Stone could mock Kim Jong Il they could do the same. Apparently they did not see the difference in what they did and satire. Stupid is stupid.

You should note that I haven't used any of my moderator powers to do anything whatsoever. Call me an asshole, call me whatever, this thread remains open. It's my opinion that the reaction to this event was an overreaction, that's all it is. If you disagree with me, feel free to post your opinion.

http://devildems.com/2011/12/06/an-o...y-invitations/

They provide some pretty solid guidelines on choosing a party theme:

How about if a bunch of Pikes at U of M threw an "America" themed party? Nobody would be outraged, right? Right?

/i know, i know, i'm such a troublemaker

Well, they'd need to include stereotypically American food which is so over the top that no one in their right mind would actually consume it anywhere else on the planet....

Deep Fried Turkey!

Now if you could pull off having everyone come to your party as Marionettes, *that* would be cool.