The 300 member classes are after recruitment. They probably only came back with around 210. Then you have those who don't get initiated, leave school, transfer, do an off campus program where PH doesn't count then in total or graduate early. General attrition in other words. Not all resign...some leave thru normal channels.

I forgot they arent in there anymore - where do they live now? I only know whats going on with Phi Sig (and getting our old house back and not that one back in the "triangle" area of the old Sig Tau/KDR and I cant remember who was there area... ) Im wondering if it hurt their recruitment. I know having a house at CU is a big thing - and having one close is better. I thought I had heard the university had bought the ZTA, Tri Sigma, and such houses...

Football haha. I was in the colorguard and still dont recall much football. I dont think anyone says "Oh hey, I wanna go to CU for football!" However, we did have that one guy who made it to the Arizona NFL team...

Another difference between where we were and big schools. I would have loved to have been at big football games with big tailgates, instead of now at homecoming, hanging outside of the Tavern.

Sorry for another post:

I just realized:

the way I feel when I hear about these large chapters, and how it just seems so foreign to me, well - women from large chapters probably cant fathom the idea of a chapter of 40-50 women and classes of 10!

Another thing Im wondering - on these campuses with large chapters - are the fraternity chapters just as large?

I am happy see the topic of membership retention being discussed on GC.

Although, I mention large chapters with retention, I also see similar numbers with small to mid sized chapters; eg. 30-50 new member classes. Losing 25% is still an issue no matter what size you are. For struggling chapters, it become so much more important. Those members are toward chapter total. And if you are nearer to total, your nationals will not be on your back so much.

I think that part of it is membership selection; we need to select who we think is going to stay. At the same time, so much goes on between Freshman and Senior year. That gung-ho freshman is now trying to be make her future after college and may not identify with the rest of the chapter. There is life outside of the chapter and she knows it.

Sure it is great that a chapter can recruit way above quota. But, it means little if you can't keep them around through initiation and graduation.
Yes, I realize life will happen; women will drop out out of college, move, etc. I know of women whose fathers lost their jobs and had to move back home miles away.

When I hear of chapters putting women before standards just paying their dues and not being involved, I am somewhat saddened. I am sure that anyone of the small chapters would love that woman just for paying her dues. It is one more tick toward the every popular chapter total. I know it is wrong but for a chapter needing money, they might not care much. At the same time, I can't stress how important why members aren't involved. Some of it can be the drama in the chapter, let alone at the physical house. Just because there is a chapter adviser, does not mean that she will be able to police the situation.

I love what chapters are doing for Seniors. To this day I still remember one of my Senior pledge buddies. She introduced herself to me. No biggie. That was it. I looked up to her. We have connected after all of these years.

I have no idea where ZTA is now. The Foundation (which is a different animal than the University) owns the houses - I think ours is empty right now, the fraternity in it maybe couldn't fill it.

The problem with just letting her pay her dues and not come to stuff is, that sort of attitude can spread. Before you know it, you can't schedule a mixer with anyone because only 25% of your active sisters are showing up and your name is mud on campus.

Which house was yours?

Oh, duh. The Phi Mu Alpha house you would know it as. It then became the Phi Delt house. I don't know how any of the fraternities maintain housing with the small amounts of members they have.