LOL, my grandmother used to say that. But really, if someone you knew was into some shady business wouldn't you want to know? I'm glad they are posting this information. Hopefully it will serve as a deterrance to people who are considering doing shady stuff and as an FYI to interests who may come into contact with these folks.

Re: Re: Disciplinary Action Report
 

Thanks for TTTing this, Soror. I'm going to take a look after I get off deadline.

I just checked out "the list" and saw some names that I recognize.

One of them is my LS - - so, yeah, it hits really close to home.

Maybe now Sorors will realize that they're shadiness will be put out on blast.

ETA: removing my previous comment
Que sera, sera. Oh well.
SMH. I disagree.
SC

I like it!!! It put folks on notice!!! It let's folks show how skeeriousssssssssssssssss we are and how far we are willing to go to put an end to this lunacy...

At the same time, it shows SOME of the "interests" (may be) that they cannot be coming around "slim shady" and demand certain things with all kind of crazy behavior and EXPECT to be in Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.

I say that because a bad interest makes for a bad soror...

Who are YOU tellin'? :rolleyes: SUPADUPA :rolleyes:

Only difference, is I don't like Michael Jackson, I like Cool J and I am not a pedophile... :cool:

But seriously though: A poor interest makes for a poor soror, does it not? We can agree to disagree...

WYTBW?
 

What you talkin' bout Soror. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE! :p :D

"Horrors of Hazing"
 

An investigative report by Al Roker is on Court TV now (began at 10:00 Eastern). It will be on again at 2:00 am and 4:00 am (Eastern). Not sure if this will cover any Af-Am or MCGLO's.

Welcome to the "Published List Club", sistergreeks. :D

Re: "Horrors of Hazing"
 

My husband and I watched that last NIGHT!!!

Personally, I think all the BGLO's that have published lists on their websites are WAAAAAYYYY ahead of the game...

But based on how various Universities see it, altogether eliminating all greek organizations--mainly "houses" from the university--it not the complete answer... I think some houses need more adult (alumni) involvement to exist and that CAN be enforced by the university... Most NPC and IFC organizations do not have that built in, although not difficult for them to do, it sounds to me that alot of these "kids" are not getting positive guidance from trained and responsible adults...

And most NPHC organizations do have that automatically built into them, historically...

However, if PWI all out ban greeks from their schools, that would kill NPHC organizations on their campuses where have some level of ethnic cohesion is necessary. I think that a university and the national headquarters need to work together to find an amicable solution rather than indiscriminantly ban all greek organizations...

Where will the "leaders" of tomorrow come from? The university inherently does not provide that kind of training... However, I think they can influence it, but inherently, they have legal issues that cannot be overcomed if they all out blow greeks off campus.

I'm glad that they made this information available, to serve notice to those who are perpetuators of hazing!

First of all... just want to mention that not every one who is on that suspended list is on there because of HAZING!!! Alpha Kappa Alpha gives out suspensions based on many infractions in our constitution and bylaws. With all the anti-hazing hooplah it is easy to forget that there are a lot of politics involved in some of these. Now some of these sorors have indeed been suspended for hazing and other SERIOUS infractions as well.

Just a consideration.

*And there we have our unsolicited PSA for the day.* :D

LMAO @ the soror schooling people. Go on, girl! :D

Re: Re: "Horrors of Hazing"
 

I hope ya'll don't mind me squeezing in the convo. :D

I agree. I think that all of our organizations should have published lists. It's sad that it has to come to that but we have to protect our butts. However, I wonder how do you answer critics who think it's inappropriate for non-members to have access to membership status of members?

Who are the critics?
If they are not members of my organization: who cares? they aren't doing anything to support the organization if and when something happens. They are the main ones being critical of the organization...

If they are members of my organization: we'd have to discuss that privately. :D

Re: Re: Re: "Horrors of Hazing"
 

Personally, I think they are the ones who need to know. Well, interests.

I've brought it up with members of my sorority and other organizations and the response is very interesting and diverse. If people are worried about their business being put out there they shouldn't do anything that would lead to them being put on the list.;)

LOL
*$&*^ happens*

Most times, the ones discussing it are NOT on the list. LOL

I am well aware of the infractions and penalties of my sorority, Chapter supspensions, individual suspensions and expulsions in what I have observed have been due to those who have been caught hazing. It is a sad day in Greekdom for any BGLO to have to resort to published lists such as this. I agree that their should be public knowledge to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak- of those undesirable members of our sorority and to make the public aware of those who pretend to be our members and in fact are not! .:mad::eek:

Soror Diva is so right on point in that not everyone on these "lists" are on there for hazing.

So, how 'bout this, Sorors...

How 'bout if corporate sets up the list so that it not only lists the name of the Soror, chapter, dates - - but also lists the infraction.

Ex.
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Hazing

Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Embezzlement

Now that ought to scare the @#$* out of a some potential shady people.

Specifics are good
 

^^
Soror Prayerfull, you're on to something. The one thing that corporate MUST do, however, is make sure it's updated quarterly and consistently. The information has to be 1908% accurate.

I think that our National Organization sees that any "postable" infraction is considered hazing, under the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Hazing Manual...

I.e. a "sin is a sin"--none big, none small--the fact is, it is a "sin"... Period...

I dunno if I agree with it... But what can I do about it? It is the way it is and hey, at least I am not on the list...

I reiterate the majority of Chapter suspensions, member suspensions, and expulsions are due to HAZING when will you people realize this -and think about why a DAR list was necessary anyway, so as to deter this deplorable practice, get your heads out of the clouds!:rolleyes:

I think this is a good idea. I wish we would do this. Funny, but one of my sorors on the list is more ticked off that they didn't say why (it was another infraction.) She doesn't want people thinking she is a "hazer." :D

*she said, "you people..."*

LMAO


Lmao

LMAO. Seriously? Whatever she did it doesn't matter, she's still "branded" as a sheisty, non-rule conforming so and so of XYZ organization whose name is on the "List of Shame".

:(

I was at Boule in Nashville. I know what's up. I heard the rationale during the plenary session. Severl other GC members did also. :D


Relax. Relate.Release. Lady. of. Pearl.

Noone has questioned who you are or whose you are. There are some who have their opinion as to what and why names are listed.

:confused:

Misinterpret what?

Sidebar: I'm not sure why your edit of mentioning be careful in quoting SAWRAH...somethng something something won't quote.

:confused:

ETA: She deleted her post(s). :confused:

True. But I think she prided herself that the infraction for which she was disciplined wasn't hazing. If you catch my drift. :rolleyes:

Hi soror,

I know someone personally who is on the list for a non-hazing related incident (Read Article V Section I of our Bylaws) I know 2 other sorors personally who have been suspended by the same bylaw and it's faulty interpretation. It is not good to judge all sorors on this list by the same standard. There is a story behind it all.

Be blessed and take care. :)

I agree with AKA Monet. Whatever they did, whether it was hazing or not, the directorate felt it serious enough to SUSPEND them. I can't empathize with them. I stand behind my org 1908%. If they felt their behavior was serious enough to warrant suspension, too bad for them.

Soror Diva_56,

Please PM me as soon as you get this message.

Either way, regardless of the C&B and MOSP says, suspensions are on the records of all members throughout their service to the Sorority.

Yes, it is unfair... Especially if it did not have ANYTHING to do with physical or overt mental violence that is obviously called hazing... However, what is posted on the International website is WHAT the Directorate decided. Moreover, majority of the chapter's delagates elected these members into Directorate, inherently supporting all decisions made by the Directorate... And as of now, we MUST stand by our Directorate's decision... Changes will be made over time to be more adjustable for each soror's situation...

These are the things that are done during Clusters, Regionals and Boules... It can be brought through a chapter and put on the ballot in the C&B committee at these events... And it takes years to get to Boule... I know, I have been on this committee from Local to International... And on the Resolutions committee several times.

And as a former GA, these are the rules that one must follow to be in good standing with the Sorority. Plain and simple. There should be little complaints after it has been posted.

I support the decision of the Sorority and the Directorate. Or at least my money does... :rolleyes: ;)

Sorors please forgive my interruption but how about if this conversation is taken to email (or another venue) where it can be discussed before sorors as opposed to the message board?
SC

Soror Summerchild:

I saw your post and my tongue is bleeding from me biting my tongue! Have Sorors found a "non" public venue for this discussion?

LOL. Yes.
Email or PM as "hinted" at days ago. :D :o

Soror I'll send you a pm for another venue.
SC