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TXDG 08-17-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IlliniKAT (Post 2416314)
If a PNM does not have recs for any of the houses she is invited to for the 3rd round, should she just drop out and write it off as a lost cause? This PNM spent months searching for recs but her small town size, multiple states away didn't have good contacts, and neither of her professionally placed and well off parents were Greek, or had contacts wither.

The rec search became a melt down for her, including contacts with Panhellenic alumnae groups. Many chapters she could secure recommendations from do not have chapters at Arkansas.

Would a parent best advise to quit before watching tragedy? And heartache? Is there simply no way to be Greek at Arkansas without a recommendation?

OMG, no!!! She should NOT drop out now! The majority of houses cut for recs very early in recruitment so she is likely past that hurdle by now. If she is invited back for Round 3, the houses are very interested in your daughter. If she is invited to Pref AND she maximizes her options by listing each house she attends on her pref card, she is guaranteed a bid to one of those houses. Chapters know if they invited a PNM to pref that she will be somewhere on their bid list.

In the event that she does not get a bid, Delta Gamma is colonizing at Arkansas next month so that is a possible second chance to go Greek. She will need to find a rec if she goes through DG's recruitment process.

pmdal 08-17-2016 11:49 AM

If the chapter wants her - they will work out a rec for her....

carnation 08-17-2016 12:01 PM

She may well have a rec that she knows nothing about, possibly written for her by an alum in her state.

IlliniKAT 08-17-2016 02:12 PM

Thanks. She has an amazing confidence and resolve. (I could use a dose suspect!)

When I look at the list of amazing houses she's visiting I know it will all turn out but as you can imagine all I was reading about required recs was freaking me out! I'm much more comfortable now having had this valuable input. She will find her letters. Thanks to all that calmed my nerves

Only a few more days to go.

DubaiSis 08-17-2016 07:09 PM

Wine. I recommend wine.

DiWantstoTravel 08-17-2016 09:00 PM

Another vote for wine.

sissyintexas 08-17-2016 10:23 PM

I have taken everyone's advice on the wine!

ARKTTKA 08-18-2016 08:48 PM

Watch Arkansas bid day online -
http://news.uark.edu/articles/35102/...-this-saturday

Maple St Alum 08-18-2016 09:44 PM

As of now, it has been reported to me that bids will be issued at the Arkansas Union due to impending weather.

sissyintexas 08-19-2016 12:40 AM

I am here because I came up early with a friend whose daughter called her tonight to tell her she dropped out.

My daughter told me that they would tell them tomorrow if it was moved to the union and that parents could not come to the union because of space issues. I will defer to maple st alum because I am sure she knows more than my PNM.

Anybody that wants to meet up, pm me. My friend went home and I found another ride home for Saturday. Since my friend left and my daughter will be tied up until after midnight tomorrow, my social schedule is wide open.

Maple St Alum 08-19-2016 09:41 AM

Praying for great weather, there's something very special about getting your bid in the Greek theater.

Pref is in full swing right now, I hope it goes well for everyone involved.

wavycutchip 08-19-2016 09:59 AM

Thankful that 2016 primary recruitment is coming to an end! Good luck to all involved, and looking forward to seeing all these women doing amazing things on the Hill in the coming months and years.

ShadeTree 08-20-2016 01:09 PM

Not sure what quota is, but I'm hearing 156 for Zeta Tau Alpha. #WPS

carnation 08-20-2016 04:59 PM

WPS!!:)

sissyintexas 08-20-2016 05:07 PM

My daughter is a new Tri Delta!

carnation 08-20-2016 05:36 PM

Great!!! That house is gorgeous!!!

wavycutchip 08-20-2016 05:45 PM

Congratulations! Happy pictures from some happy PNMs today on social media.

DiWantstoTravel 08-20-2016 05:51 PM

One of my daughter's HS friends went Tri Delta and the other is a new Pi Phi!

TLLK 08-20-2016 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2416585)
My daughter is a new Tri Delta!

Congratulations to your daughter!

TriDeltaSallie 08-20-2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2416585)
My daughter is a new Tri Delta!

Congratulations and welcome to the bonds to your daughter! :)

sissyintexas 08-20-2016 11:51 PM

Thanks all, she is so excited and 2 new friends
she bonded with this week are pledge sisters!

ARKTTKA 08-21-2016 06:48 PM

UA KKG took 116 per their instagram.

sissyintexas 08-21-2016 11:46 PM

I don't see that on KKG instagram. Maybe I missed something.

I see 129 for Chi O on their instagram.

Heard from other moms, but not confirmed: Zeta 154 with 2 no shows - literally did not show up for bid day, never even picked up their envelopes
Tri Delta, 139

carnation 08-22-2016 06:45 AM

No way! That Zeta chapter is outstanding! Who on earth wouldn't want a bid from them?

sissyintexas 08-22-2016 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2416771)
No way! That Zeta chapter is outstanding! Who on earth wouldn't want a bid from them?

According to this mom (whose daughter is a Zeta), they would not have even known if they got bids from Zeta. They did not even come to the union to meet with their groups or come down to the theater. They were called, left messages and told they had bids but as of Saturday at 4:00 had not responded.

chi-o_cat 08-22-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2416773)
According to this mom (whose daughter is a Zeta), they would not have even known if they got bids from Zeta. They did not even come to the union to meet with their groups or come down to the theater. They were called, left messages and told they had bids but as of Saturday at 4:00 had not responded.

Unless that was the only chapter where they preffed, and decided sometime after pref, and before bid day that it wasn’t for them.

ARKTTKA 08-22-2016 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=sissyintexas;2416753]I don't see that on KKG instagram. Maybe I missed something.

I see 129 for Chi O on their instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJV0uBJj...n-at=628986830

This is where I got 116 on Instagram.

Iota_JWH 08-22-2016 06:21 PM

Alpha Omicron PI got 152 new members!

sissyintexas 08-22-2016 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=ARKTTKA;2416833]
Quote:

Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2416753)
I don't see that on KKG instagram. Maybe I missed something.

I see 129 for Chi O on their instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJV0uBJj...n-at=628986830

This is where I got 116 on Instagram.

Don't know how I missed that!

gee_ess 08-23-2016 01:27 PM

Quota at Arkansas ranged from 116 - 166 this year. Each house received a different total. I can confirm that KKG got 116. Arkansas is looking forward to welcoming Delta Gamma to campus! Woo Pig Sooie!

Hearttoheart 08-24-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess (Post 2416908)
Quota at Arkansas ranged from 116 - 166 this year. Each house received a different total. I can confirm that KKG got 116. Arkansas is looking forward to welcoming Delta Gamma to campus! Woo Pig Sooie!

Can someone please explain the quota range? Why was there not just one quota number? How does this fit into the standard RFM?

I kind of understand that it helps balance out chapter totals, but I'm not experienced enough with RFM to understand how varying the quota might effect the carry figures.

I've never heard of this before. Does it work? Is it fair to all chapters?

TXDG 08-24-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hearttoheart (Post 2416996)
Can someone please explain the quota range? Why was there not just one quota number? How does this fit into the standard RFM?

I kind of understand that it helps balance out chapter totals, but I'm not experienced enough with RFM to understand how varying the quota might effect the carry figures.

I've never heard of this before. Does it work? Is it fair to all chapters?

I can't answer all your questions, but I know Arkansas has been doing this for a few years and from what I've heard, it has greatly increased placement rates and lowered the number of PNM's who drop out (which was a BIG issue- not only dropping out of recruitment, but withdrawing from school completely).

The strong recruiting chapters have lower quotas and therefore release a ton of women early in the week, giving those PNM's more rounds to get to know the houses who are interested in them. The weak recruiting chapters have higher quotas which has helped grow their numbers.

I imagine RFM works the same (marrying return rates with expected quota range), except that houses are working towards different quotas.

DubaiSis 08-24-2016 12:31 PM

My understanding is Arkansas, for a variety of reasons has widely ranging chapter sizes. If they made quota/total to accommodate the high end of the spectrum the smaller chapters would continually be playing catch up when their chapters are already massive.

So they restrict the size of the largest chapters to allow the smaller chapters to balance out a bit. It seems to have worked for them, but it makes keeping track for the numbers geeks (like me) a little frustrating. The short answer is all the chapters at Arkansas are doing just fine and you just have to trust it. LOL.


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