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ms_b_haven06 08-08-2011 03:53 AM

Would it be just safe to deactivate it until after your done with everything?

DubaiSis 08-08-2011 04:14 AM

Or you can learn that you don't have to share every thought or feeling that comes into your mind. This is a good time to learn discression. Save tweeting for generalities and good news only.

KSUViolet06 08-08-2011 02:15 PM

Another place to be careful on: Tumblr.


That pic you reblogged of a person junmping off a bridge with the caption "I only got invited to ABC tonight and I hate them" -- we can see that, too.

Not saying you should not use your social media, but before you post, ask yourself "would I want a sorority member to see this?"

33girl 08-08-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ms_b_haven06 (Post 2077215)
Would it be just safe to deactivate it until after your done with everything?

If that's easier for you to do - if it makes overposting less tempting - I wouldn't see why not.

TexasDarling 08-09-2011 02:44 AM

Please don't block all your pictures. Many sororities make posters/powerpoints/flashcards of girls they really want. We want a picture that is gorgeous and uniquely you so we can pick you out of a crowd. If we only have one choice, it could hurt you.

I don't think there is a need to deactivate. Just be tasteful. Besides, there are social media rules when you get into a sorority, so why not start cleaning up your act now?

33girl 08-09-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasDarling (Post 2077522)
Please don't block all your pictures. Many sororities make posters/powerpoints/flashcards of girls they really want. We want a picture that is gorgeous and uniquely you so we can pick you out of a crowd. If we only have one choice, it could hurt you.

I don't think there is a need to deactivate. Just be tasteful. Besides, there are social media rules when you get into a sorority, so why not start cleaning up your act now?

But wouldn't the chapters have gotten a picture of her with her rec anyway? Those are more likely better photographed/lit than her pictures on FB.

No one, no matter what the situation, should feel compelled to have a Facebook page - private, public, or at all. That's what the OP's question was, not how to clean up her page.

wildcass 08-09-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2077328)
Another place to be careful on: Tumblr.

This. I made a post about recruitment on Tumblr and a sophomore in a sorority found me and then facebook stalked me through the "class of 2015" page. And that's just with knowing my school and first name. :/

AXOrushadvisor 08-09-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2077786)
But wouldn't the chapters have gotten a picture of her with her rec anyway? Those are more likely better photographed/lit than her pictures on FB.

No one, no matter what the situation, should feel compelled to have a Facebook page - private, public, or at all. That's what the OP's question was, not how to clean up her page.

I just reread your post. We don't get pictures with the applications like we used to and we get very few recommendations at our school. We use facebook to figure out sometimes who it is the girls have talked to especially if there are 5 Megan Smiths going through!

33girl 08-09-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor (Post 2077831)
I just reread your post. We don't get pictures with the applications like we used to and we get very few recommendations at our school. We use facebook to figure out sometimes who it is the girls have talked to especially if there are 5 Megan Smiths going through!

Ha, I probably should have said application, but as far as using it as a rationale for the poster-making as TD was, you are probably screwed without recs anyway at that kind of rush, so it's a moot point.

TexasDarling 08-10-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2077786)
But wouldn't the chapters have gotten a picture of her with her rec anyway? Those are more likely better photographed/lit than her pictures on FB.

Sometimes, sometimes not. For example, while your prom picture is gorgeous, it there can be a huge gap between that and your look when you walk through our door.

Always AlphaGam 08-10-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasDarling (Post 2078017)
Sometimes, sometimes not. For example, while your prom picture is gorgeous, it there can be a huge gap between that and your look when you walk through our door.

The same could be said about default photos on FB. I know several people on FB who don't bother changing their defaults simply because they prefer using ones where they look the most flattering...even if it means using the photo taken in 2008 at your high school banquet.

HQWest 08-10-2011 10:56 AM

Saw a story on CNN this morning while I was working out with warning about employers using facebook as an additional part of background checks....

33girl 08-10-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HQWest (Post 2078067)
Saw a story on CNN this morning while I was working out with warning about employers using facebook as an additional part of background checks....

How?

This is my question with all of this. How can you assume something from a site on a computer, with no concrete evidence? Just because I choose to join a group called "How To Rob A Bank" it doesn't mean I have the slightest intention of robbing a bank, or that the police wouldn't be wasting their time in the extreme asking me about the latest bank robbery.

It's all starting to be a rewind of when in the 1950s if you were a member of any union, left-wing group or anything with "peoples" in it, you must be a Communist.

Sciencewoman 08-10-2011 01:51 PM

At the university where I'm a chapter advisor, the Panhellenic President sent out a stern message last week re. our school's "Class of 2016" FB site, expressing concern from the Exec. Council about FB, and sorority members communicating with PNMs publicly through the site over the past month. The Exec is viewing many of the posts as "dirty rushing". I think posts on FB can affect both sides negatively during Recruitment. I think I'd just stay away for the duration, because everyone is checking....

Low C Sharp 08-10-2011 02:43 PM

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Just because I choose to join a group called "How To Rob A Bank" it doesn't mean I have the slightest intention of robbing a bank
If I saw that on a totally public page, I wouldn't think "She's a bank robber." But I would think, "This person doesn't have good judgment about how to present herself to the world." In my industry, good judgment about appearing professional to clients and protecting our brand is essential. The Facebook page would be a real negative factor for that candidate.

DubaiSis 08-10-2011 02:52 PM

This reminds me of what my sister was told when she was in college. This was also WAY before Facebook, but she attended the Disney College of Knowledge, and in her lectures, the students were told to take any cutesy crap off their answering machines. Even if you are such a Disney fan that you go work there for a summer for basically free, you should NOT put some Mickey Mouse voice on your machine. They want professionals. If Disney doesn't think it's funny, what is IBM or Deloitte going to think? I think the advice can be extrapolated to Facebook and the bank robber comment above. Are you a bank robber? Probably not. Are you a goofball who won't be a dependable, responsible grown up? Maybe. It's not about facts; it's about impressions.

33girl 08-10-2011 03:01 PM

I'm so sick of this bullshit, that how you appear is more important than what you do. It might be about "professionalism" on the face of it, but as I said, I believe it's quickly going down the tunnel to outright discrimination that can be explained away with bullshit reasons.

I truly envy my graphic designer/IT friends who can be the surliest sons of bitches on earth, can have any internet presence they want and no one cares - because it has NOTHING to do with how they actually DO their job. We're getting away from that more and more and it's pathetic.

/rant

shirley1929 08-10-2011 03:01 PM

I'd also like to throw out there that this social media checking goes both ways. Polly PNM might be trying to check out Jane XYZ's info on FB to find out more about her group. If you're puking into a trash can in your bra & panties...it can be seen as representative of your group.

I know many groups have a social media monitor, but it's always good to be mindful of representing your own group.

Low C Sharp 08-10-2011 03:20 PM

In the legal industry, if Googling your name leads to tweets about getting wasted and the aforementioned image of you puking in a trash can, you will not get hired. We don't care what you do on your own time; we care that you put it on Twitter with your real name. Lawyers are entrusted with billion-dollar secrets. They advise clients about what to reveal and what to hide. We're looking for people who understand how to make good choices about what's fit for public consumption. If I were hiring file clerks for a construction company, I probably wouldn't care about one's sense of discretion, but legal jobs are another story.

I don't believe that's equivalent to discriminating against political minorities, nor a smokescreen for the same. Donating money to a widely disliked candidate (whether Bachmann or Sharpton) won't raise an eyebrow in our industry.

DrPhil 08-10-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2078159)
I'm so sick of this bullshit, that how you appear is more important than what you do. It might be about "professionalism" on the face of it, but as I said, I believe it's quickly going down the tunnel to outright discrimination that can be explained away with bullshit reasons.

Uh...how you appear has been important long before the Internet existed. Same shit, different toilet. The Internet has simply given easier access to people's stupidity. The onus is on the employee/GLO aspirant/applicant and not the employer/GLO/school or company.

If people are so butthurt over that, they can do whatever the hell they want and deal with the consequences. It isn't about discrimination but rather about how everyone doesn't need to know your life: what's on your mind and what you are doing. However, if people choose to put their lives on the Internet they are relinquishing complete control over who accesses the info and how the info is interpreted. Such is life. Wooptywoop.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2078159)
I truly envy my graphic designer/IT friends who can be the surliest sons of bitches on earth, can have any internet presence they want and no one cares - because it has NOTHING to do with how they actually DO their job.

Do you really believe that? It simply hasn't been used against them YET.

I shall use a Criminal Minds example because I find it amusing. Penelope Garcia was able to live off of the radar and do all sorts of things on the Internet. Then the government discovered her and forced her to work for them. After that, her FBI bosses found her playing Internet games and she got in trouble for the implications of her Internet games. Long story short, shit catches up with people. Sure, you can say "it's my life, it has nothing to do with YOU" but you can't control what people do with the information. And discrimination claims are extremely rare because they are difficult to prove--plus, many people are full of shit when they claim discrimination on such grounds.

DrPhil 08-10-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 2078167)
We don't care what you do on your own time; we care that you put it on Twitter with your real name.

Exactly.

Similarly, as I always tell people, I don't care what you're thinking. Once you share your thoughts with me, and they translate into action, you are welcoming a reaction.

FleurGirl 08-10-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2077128)
True story.

Some examples of PNM tweets I've seen that are things you DON'T want to post:

"Headed to ABC next! LAME #getmeoutofhere!"

"ZOMGGGGGGGG I got cut by XY. So sad. And I have to go back to ABC :("

"Julie said I'm an automatic in at Gamma Rho Pi!!!!"

On this topic, things that I think it would be A-OK to share:

"Had a great time getting to meet all the NPC sororities!"

"Really excited about starting recruitment! Looking forward to meeting some amazing people!"

Etc., etc. We get caught up on what NOT to say, but if you're going to have your profile public or partially public, share something POSITIVE!

Benzgirl 08-10-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2077328)
Another place to be careful on: Tumblr.


That pic you reblogged of a person junmping off a bridge with the caption "I only got invited to ABC tonight and I hate them" -- we can see that, too.

Not saying you should not use your social media, but before you post, ask yourself "would I want a sorority member to see this?"


We tracked FB and Twitter postings during winter recruitment last year. Most were pretty funny or naive rather than obnoxious.

Benzgirl 08-10-2011 07:39 PM

Examples of what I pulled from FB in about 10 minutes:

On my way to my job interview at Alpha Gamma Delta Sorority house^_^ #thinkingpostive

· Thinking about joining a sorority...Gamma Phi Beta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, or Pi Beta Phi...omg and Dev might perform at our block party!!!!

Pledging kappa delta.

· Does anyone need a recommendation for Kappa Kappa Gamma? This is you last chance! Call/text me ASAP! (most likely an alum)
·
I fell in love with Kappa Delta Sorority</SPAN></SPAN>
Obviously from a housekeeper:
· One house down, now off to WSU to start my new job at Kappa Kappa Gamma. I hope the girls are a little cleaner than the ones I have had before :-)

33girl 08-10-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2078172)
Do you really believe that? It simply hasn't been used against them YET.

Ex-Mr 33 has hardly lived a sin-free life - there's much evidence of it everywhere, on and offline - and he's never had trouble getting a job because it's what's in his portfolio that counts.

And mass LOLZ at the legal industry comment.

At any rate, this has NOTHING to do with the original question. No, you do not have to make your Facebook page public in the least if it wasn't that way before. The person giving that advice is sketchy.

*winter* 08-10-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 2078235)
Examples of what I pulled from FB in about 10 minutes:
Obviously from a housekeeper:
· One house down, now off to WSU to start my new job at Kappa Kappa Gamma. I hope the girls are a little cleaner than the ones I have had before :-)


At least she was polite enough to not mention the name of the first house.

MysticCat 08-10-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2078252)
And mass LOLZ at the legal industry comment.

There's truth to it, though.

DrPhil 08-10-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2078252)
Ex-Mr 33 has hardly lived a sin-free life - there's much evidence of it everywhere, on and offline - and he's never had trouble getting a job because it's what's in his portfolio that counts.

You are assuming a lot here, as well as pretending to be psychic.

DrPhil 08-10-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2078265)
There's truth to it, though.

Yep and not just for the legal industry.

Point being, no matter the industry, if the RIGHT person gets access to information that they deem negative, there are potential negative outcomes.

spaceykatie 08-23-2011 06:29 PM

When I rushed last year I purposely set my fb profile to super private. I was searchable, but all they could see was my profile picture. I made sure to have up a pretty profile pic, but I didn't want to be nervous about sorting through all my tagged photos. I don't think it held me back at all :)

SthrnZeta 08-24-2011 05:37 PM

My advice, coming from a recruitment chair advisor, if you're a PNM, have a close-up head-shot of yourself as your profile pic, and set the rest to private. Make sure you're searchable also. Because the school I advised at didn't provide photos of PNMs, we looked up the girls on FB to put faces with names to help jog the girls' memories. Some photos had other people in them or were too far away or too abstract and weren't helpful. If you want to have more visible than your pic and your name, make sure it's professional. Same goes for sisters, as they will get searched by PNMs.


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