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knight_shadow 03-18-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2039306)
@knight_shadow: She's right. The fact that people are talking about her song and the song is stuck in some people's heads (I refused to listen to the entire song because I wasn't going to do that to myself--I listened to the "Bob Dylan" version twice, though) means that she has some notoriety.

I don't dispute that the song is putting her name out there, but it's out there for the wrong reasons. Unless her voice matures and she comes out with some legit, non-Ark Music Factory hits, she'll go down in history as a joke.

I hate everything you stand for LOL

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039317)
If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

I agree with this re: criticism, but...

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2039315)
Also, 4chan has published information about her school, her school's calendar, and were talking about doing some kind of Operation Black Friday today.

...obviously this is going too far.

33girl 03-18-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039332)
I agree with this re: criticism, but...



...obviously this is going too far.

Yes it is. But if you're savvy enough to market yourself on the internet, you're also savvy enough to know that there are batshit psychos who do crap like that. Proceed accordingly.

knight_shadow 03-18-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039335)
Yes it is. But if you're savvy enough to market yourself on the internet, you're also savvy enough to know that there are batshit psychos who do crap like that. Proceed accordingly.

Right.

I think that, because of how quickly this song blew up, she and her parents weren't prepared for the privacy breaches, so having websites expose the information is not surprising (although it still shouldn't have been done).

I call BS on the "cyber-bullying" part, though. If you want to be in the limelight, you have to be able to take criticism.

agzg 03-18-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039317)
That's what I'm saying. How did they get that info? Apparently her parents didn't impress upon her to keep it private. In this day and age, you have to assume that when you become ANY sort of public figure, anything that people can access, they will. If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

Live by the internet, die by the internet. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Actually, they got it from a kid who went* to school with her.

*kid who posted it no longer goes to school there.

33girl 03-18-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2039339)
Actually, they got it from a kid who goes to school with her.

See my above post re batshit psychos.

agzg 03-18-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039340)
See my above post re batshit psychos.

If everyone "proceeded accordingly", nothing would be on the internet. Including all of us.

That doesn't mean she's getting what she deserves when people are going out of their way to harass her (which is what the 4chan plot boils down to, although I'm not sure if they carried it out) for putting something on the internet.

Criticism of her stupid video and stupid song are fine by me, even jokes about it are fine, but at some point a line is crossed when information is published that not only puts her safety at risk but that of her classmates as well. The kid's in 8th grade, come on.

ASTalumna06 03-18-2011 01:55 PM

If the kid wants to act like an adult, she should expect to be treated like one. Again, I’m not saying she deserves this, but to think that this information absolutely, positively would never be leaked is ignorant. This is the risk you take when plastering yourself all over tv/movies/the internet.

In my opinion, to claim this is cyber-bullying is a bit of a stretch.

Serious question (to those lawyers out there) – I know that cyber-bullying is still a fairly new concept, so maybe no one will really be able to answer this, but… would the burden of proof be similar to that of libel and slander, in regard to the difference between these crimes being committed against someone famous vs. someone like you or me?

pshsx1 03-18-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2039315)
Her parents made the ultimate decision, though.

Also, 4chan has published information about her school, her school's calendar, and were talking about doing some kind of Operation Black Friday today.

4chan is fucking scary. They can do anything.

knight_shadow 03-18-2011 02:06 PM

My Jeans

Some people are saying this one is more acceptable because she's even younger, but this still makes me want to throw up.

princessamy 03-18-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039350)
My Jeans

Some people are saying this one is more acceptable because she's even younger, but this still makes me want to throw up.

You aren't alone there. Even my 13 year old little sister asked me why would someone do that to themselves?

preciousjeni 03-18-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039350)
My Jeans

Some people are saying this one is more acceptable because she's even younger, but this still makes me want to throw up.

Not to be talking about anybody's kids (but I will). Who told her to do her mouth like that when she was lip syncing? Booooo

knight_shadow 03-18-2011 02:55 PM

I noticed the mouth thing, but I was curious who told a 12 year old that getting behind the wheel was OK.

agzg 03-18-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 2039364)
Not to be talking about anybody's kids (but I will). Who told her to do her mouth like that when she was lip syncing? Booooo

Typical theatre kid.

DrPhil 03-18-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2039347)
If the kid wants to act like an adult, she should expect to be treated like one.

Did I miss where she's acting like an adult?

adpiucf 03-18-2011 06:21 PM

I think this may have been mentioned, but nonetheless I present to you the Bob Dylan version



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FISH...layer_embedded

33girl 03-18-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039350)
My Jeans

Some people are saying this one is more acceptable because she's even younger, but this still makes me want to throw up.

I will say something positive about it. That quilt on her bed is pretty.

knight_shadow 03-18-2011 08:03 PM

I just watched it again.

"Staring in the mall window, I finger-do a smile"

"Ha ha ha ha, jack my swag"

http://forums.grandbell.net/Smileys/..._emote_gif.gif

DTD Alum 03-18-2011 09:07 PM

OK, a couple days ago when I first heard this song I couldn't even comprehend how bad it was. Now it's completely stuck in my head and all over my Facebook...can't wait until they play this at bars and start a massive sing-a-long. So bad it's amazing.

preciousjeni 03-18-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039439)
I just watched it again.

"Staring in the mall window, I finger-do a smile"

"Ha ha ha ha, jack my swag"

http://forums.grandbell.net/Smileys/..._emote_gif.gif

Hold up...I just listened to the words. Did she REALLY say, "It feels like heelies are racing on my spine?"

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...AJr5c2oxfw-3qF

PiKA2001 03-18-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2039350)
My Jeans

Some people are saying this one is more acceptable because she's even younger, but this still makes me want to throw up.

While horrid in it's own right it's not nearly as bad as "Fraiyday".

nittanygirl 03-18-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DTD Alum (Post 2039455)
OK, a couple days ago when I first heard this song I couldn't even comprehend how bad it was. Now it's completely stuck in my head and all over my Facebook...can't wait until they play this at bars and start a massive sing-a-long. So bad it's amazing.

It's been stuck in my head all day, everyone is talking about it, and it's in people's facebook statuses.

AHHH It won't go away!

Can we have a new viral video soon please?

summer_gphib 03-19-2011 08:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Chelwb6Ja4

The sequel

Drolefille 03-19-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039317)
That's what I'm saying. How did they get that info? Apparently her parents didn't impress upon her to keep it private. In this day and age, you have to assume that when you become ANY sort of public figure, anything that people can access, they will. If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

Live by the internet, die by the internet. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the truth.

You're talking about children and parents who are not 100% internet savvy. Groups like 4chan can and have found the information of pretty much anyone - for the lulz. They 'hacked' Sarah Palin's email by finding out her dog's name, they harass people, even innocent people. This isn't the more 'noble-minded' Anonymous. This is a site that can just barely avoid posting child porn on a regular basis.

That isn't some sort of 'expected and fair result' of posting a video on youtube.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2039335)
Yes it is. But if you're savvy enough to market yourself on the internet, you're also savvy enough to know that there are batshit psychos who do crap like that. Proceed accordingly.

Right, so if you were stalked and harassed you'd be totally fine with it because you asked for it? Way to blame the victim!
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2039347)
If the kid wants to act like an adult, she should expect to be treated like one. Again, I’m not saying she deserves this, but to think that this information absolutely, positively would never be leaked is ignorant. This is the risk you take when plastering yourself all over tv/movies/the internet.

In my opinion, to claim this is cyber-bullying is a bit of a stretch.

Serious question (to those lawyers out there) – I know that cyber-bullying is still a fairly new concept, so maybe no one will really be able to answer this, but… would the burden of proof be similar to that of libel and slander, in regard to the difference between these crimes being committed against someone famous vs. someone like you or me?

If 4chan is involved, it's cyber harassment. And being a child probably mitigates any celebrity 'expectation of privacy' lacks.
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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 2039349)
4chan is fucking scary. They can do anything.

Not anything. Anonymous can probably do nearly anything. 4chan can just post for the lulz.

pshsx1 03-20-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2039703)
Not anything. Anonymous can probably do nearly anything. 4chan can just post for the lulz.

Correction: As a group, a good number of people who frequent 4chan, specifically the /b/ board, are crazy and can do just about anything... it's scary.

Drolefille 03-20-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 2039802)
Correction: As a group, a good number of people who frequent 4chan, specifically the /b/ board, are crazy and can do just about anything... it's scary.

True. It's more the fact they have zero filter on their brains. They will do any and everything they want because they can and because their social network such as it is, allows it. 4chan creeps me the fuck out if I think about it too much. And yet they're mostly a bunch of 13 year old dumbass teenagers. It's weird. And yeah I pretty much mean /b/ whenever I talk about 4chan the rest of the boards don't matter >.>

Anon on the other hand, they're the slightly more sensible big brother.

dukemama 03-20-2011 01:57 AM

Oh Sweet Jesus. This reinforces the reason I only listen to oldies.

AnotherKD 03-21-2011 08:05 AM

I heard this song for the first time this weekend. Autotune is the worst invention ever.

This song is so awful, I'd rather listen to Nickelback. Which is pretty bad.

ASTalumna06 03-21-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2039404)
Did I miss where she's acting like an adult?

Well, clearly she isn't acting like an adult in the song... :)

I simply meant in terms of singing/making a video/wanting the world to see it/wanting to be famous, etc.

Teen stars don't live a kid's life. And she sounds like she wants the fame without all of the criticism.

IrishLake 03-21-2011 08:30 AM

I refuse to listen to it. However, every time I glance at the thread title, I think it says "Rebecca It's Black Friday."

AnotherKD 03-21-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2040035)
I refuse to listen to it. However, every time I glance at the thread title, I think it says "Rebecca It's Black Friday."

I saw it on The Soup. Along with a few similar ones out there right now... my husband and I looked at each other when it was being played with looks of profound confusion/disgust/hilarity.

DrPhil 03-21-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2040034)
Well, clearly she isn't acting like an adult in the song... :)

I simply meant in terms of singing/making a video/wanting the world to see it/wanting to be famous, etc.

Teen stars don't live a kid's life. And she sounds like she wants the fame without all of the criticism.

LOL. If you consider that acting like an adult, let me remind you of generations of children who wanted to perform. The Internet just provides a larger audience to those who want to perform.

Still children. Take issue with the real adults and not with the children. Children are not expected to fully understand the pros and cons.

Moreover, I'm quite baffled by the response to this song/video in this thread and elsewhere. Are people bothered by this? Does it offend their senses? People need to get over it. Seriously.

DrPhil 03-21-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2040033)
Autotune is the worst invention ever.

I like autotune. Everything in moderation.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...j4Jcqu9V5OTnpi

knight_shadow 03-21-2011 11:57 AM

Is that Zapp? One of the only acceptable uses of auto-tune.

DrPhil 03-21-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2040075)
Is that Zapp? One of the only acceptable uses of auto-tune.

Of course that is Roger Zapp. :)

knight_shadow 03-21-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2040079)
Of course that is Roger Zapp. :)

Of course :)

I enjoy auto-tune when it's used to supplement a singer's voice, not when it's used to create a voice for the singer. Bleh.

33girl 03-21-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 2040033)
This song is so awful, I'd rather listen to Nickelback. Which is pretty bad.

I won't go that far. At least you can goof on this and have some fun with it. Nickleback on the other hand, I'm ready to kick my 3 little out of the family for liking them on facebook. ha ha.

thetaj 03-21-2011 03:21 PM

Hitler's reaction to hearing Rebecca Black

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yUUHYlJEI

I thoroughly enjoyed this. Idk if it's been posted in this thread yet.

33girl 03-21-2011 09:38 PM

^^^That was incredibly super awesome.

VandalSquirrel 03-21-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2040075)
Is that Zapp? One of the only acceptable uses of auto-tune.

You are blasphemous sir, BLASPHEMOUS. Zapp predated auto tune by about two decades. I am sure there is a low ratio of bounce to your ounce. You get no computer love.

Make my funk the p-funk.

DrPhil 03-21-2011 11:57 PM

LOL. She took your computer love and p-funk cards.

Although auto-tune was not introduced until the late-90s, I consider the vocoder and talk box that Zapp and artists in the 1970s-1980s used to be an earlier version of auto-tune. Same point, different trademarked instrument.


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