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AOII Angel 10-23-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1997043)
If I'm going to an event where strappy sandals are appropriate, I'll often wear my knee high (dressy) boots in the car then change into my sandals before going in.

Also, I'd rather be shot dead than wear pantyhose. If I wear any type of hosiery, it's tights. Otherwise, I'll suffer to go bare.

To be quite honest, I don't know how I feel about patterned shoes, I really really hate plain white shoes, so I'll never get caught in the Easter v. Memorial Day debate. If I have an outfit that would go nicely with white, I've found that it'll probably go nicely with silver, and that doesn't fall under the same rules.

I completely agree! Wow, we are on the same page today.

Drolefille 10-23-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1997023)
The date isn't exactly arbitrary. It's just a shorthand way of saying no white shoes when summer is over. Because white dress shoes have a spring-summer/warm weather look to them.

I get that, but people treat the date itself as if white shoes worn on the day after, no matter how hot or sunny will make them utter social pariahs.

There's nothing particularly 'common sense' about it though. Odds are that the only reason there aren't more white winter shoes/boots now is more because of the rule than because of the winter weather damage. Designers don't always take practicality into 'fashion' in the first place.

/exaggeration for the sake of the point may have occurred in this post.

AOII Angel 10-23-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1997060)
I get that, but people treat the date itself as if white shoes worn on the day after, no matter how hot or sunny will make them utter social pariahs.

There's nothing particularly 'common sense' about it though. Odds are that the only reason there aren't more white winter shoes/boots now is more because of the rule than because of the winter weather damage. Designers don't always take practicality into 'fashion' in the first place.

/exaggeration for the sake of the point may have occurred in this post.

Yes, you're right. It is rather arbitrary, but is seriously engrained in the South.

Alumiyum 10-23-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1997060)
I get that, but people treat the date itself as if white shoes worn on the day after, no matter how hot or sunny will make them utter social pariahs.

There's nothing particularly 'common sense' about it though. Odds are that the only reason there aren't more white winter shoes/boots now is more because of the rule than because of the winter weather damage. Designers don't always take practicality into 'fashion' in the first place.

/exaggeration for the sake of the point may have occurred in this post.

Down here it's like saying "yes ma'am" and men opening doors for women. You just do it. Never been a big deal or a problem for me.

ETA: Except when it comes to hose. I can't handle them. Can. Not. Which is considered un-ladylike by some, but it isn't worth it to me.

honeychile 10-23-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997062)
ETA: Except when it comes to hose. I can't handle them. Can. Not. Which is considered un-ladylike by some, but it isn't worth it to me.

One of my more precious memories of an event I attended is that of a DAR page, with her long formal gown, and ribbons & pins out the wazoo, in a hallway where she thought nobody would see her, hiking up her knee high stockings.

The problem lies with the manufacturers of hose. One size never did and never will fit all, and if they fit the leg length, rarely fit the rest, etc. I switched to thigh highs long ago, and have yet to regret it.

DrPhil 10-23-2010 01:30 PM

Dey don luh dem hose. Yeaah.

AOII Angel 10-23-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997062)
Down here it's like saying "yes ma'am" and men opening doors for women. You just do it. Never been a big deal or a problem for me.

ETA: Except when it comes to hose. I can't handle them. Can. Not. Which is considered un-ladylike by some, but it isn't worth it to me.

It's also generational.

AnchorAlumna 10-23-2010 02:35 PM

I don't understand the hatred for pantyhose.
My feet sweat, and going bare would irritate my skin terribly. We're talking blisters. Plus, going bare in the winter is c-o-l-d.
Thigh highs, as well as garter belts and girdles to hold up stockings, are a fine-tuned form of torture. I had to wear that when I was a teen-ager...God bless pantyhose for rescuing me from popped garters and sagging hose!

Drolefille 10-23-2010 03:05 PM

Put me in the anti-hose camp. I wear it on rare occasions, but I don't even think I have a pair that fits me atm.

33girl 10-23-2010 03:35 PM

I see a LOT of people going without pantyhose that should be wearing them. Many of them are silly women 40 and over trying to look young. Yes, that road map of veins on your feet and back of your legs is really going to make everyone mistake you for a High School Musical castmember.

And I agree, going bare legged in the winter is EFFING COLD.

Also: wearing a full suit and heels without hose looks really ridiculous. Dress with a jacket you can maybe get away with, but full suit no way.

Alumiyum 10-23-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1997066)
One of my more precious memories of an event I attended is that of a DAR page, with her long formal gown, and ribbons & pins out the wazoo, in a hallway where she thought nobody would see her, hiking up her knee high stockings.

The problem lies with the manufacturers of hose. One size never did and never will fit all, and if they fit the leg length, rarely fit the rest, etc. I switched to thigh highs long ago, and have yet to regret it.

Yep. They're always too long for me and reach pretty much up to my boobs to fit without bunching...my mother made me wear them on Sundays and such, but once I got to college I ditched them. I realize at some point I'll need to get over it, but right now I'm 24 and once again a student...there are very few occasions where I know I need them and I fully intend to put them off for as long as possible.

Plus, I live in Alabama. If it's ever THAT cold, I have pants options for dressy occasions. Usually I just brave it.

AOII Angel 10-23-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 1997082)
I don't understand the hatred for pantyhose.
My feet sweat, and going bare would irritate my skin terribly. We're talking blisters. Plus, going bare in the winter is c-o-l-d.
Thigh highs, as well as garter belts and girdles to hold up stockings, are a fine-tuned form of torture. I had to wear that when I was a teen-ager...God bless pantyhose for rescuing me from popped garters and sagging hose!

Try Blister Block from Band-Aid brands. It's a little stick that you rub on like a deodorant on areas that may blister that protects those areas. Works like a charm!

Drolefille 10-23-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1997099)
I see a LOT of people going without pantyhose that should be wearing them. Many of them are silly women 40 and over trying to look young. Yes, that road map of veins on your feet and back of your legs is really going to make everyone mistake you for a High School Musical castmember.

And I agree, going bare legged in the winter is EFFING COLD.

Also: wearing a full suit and heels without hose looks really ridiculous. Dress with a jacket you can maybe get away with, but full suit no way.

Honestly I don't care if I have a road map of veins on my legs. They're my legs, and your opinion of them doesn't matter. No one 'should' or 'shouldn't' be wearing hose, heels, tennis shoes, jeans, stretch pants, or any item of clothing in public.

Also, hose do not keep my legs warm. Tights maybe. Hose, no.

knight_shadow 10-24-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997062)
Down here it's like saying "yes ma'am" and men opening doors for women. You just do it. Never been a big deal or a problem for

Ehh...

"Yes ma'am" and opening doors = polite

OMG YOU'RE WEARING WHITE SHOES = "Get off my goddamn back because I really don't care"

Alumiyum 10-24-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1997214)
Ehh...

"Yes ma'am" and opening doors = polite

OMG YOU'RE WEARING WHITE SHOES = "Get off my goddamn back because I really don't care"

It's custom, that's my point. I just never have been inconvenienced by it. I wear my other shoes after Labor Day. *shrug*

SWTXBelle 10-24-2010 01:00 PM

And if one is truly polite, one would never go "OMG YOU'RE WEARING WHITE SHOES". That would be rude.

And my take on hose - personally, I like my midriff fat to be locked and loaded, so I'm all for control top panty hose for dressing up - makes my middle-aged legs look better, and my tummy less obvious, so hooray!

SWTXBelle 10-25-2010 06:46 AM

http://comics.com/pearls_before_swine/

FSUZeta 10-25-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1997545)

love it!

MaggieXi 10-25-2010 11:32 AM

I like that I went away for several days and came back to a 4 page discussion on cultural clothing norms that started as question about shoes. This is why I enjoy GC.

(btw, I didn't end up wearing those shoes.)

FSUZeta 10-26-2010 08:09 AM

i've been wondering.

carnation 10-26-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1997267)
And my take on hose - personally, I like my midriff fat to be locked and loaded, so I'm all for control top panty hose for dressing up - makes my middle-aged legs look better, and my tummy less obvious, so hooray!

LOLOL! Locked and loaded!!!!!!

DubaiSis 10-26-2010 03:46 PM

I just had to share this. My 6 year old nephew is an utter genius and otherwise awesome kid.

When referring to putting on his White Sox shirt today Alec said, "i know it's white but it's only illegal for fashion people to wear white after Labor Day."

I can't stand it! I'm laughing SOOOOO hard.


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