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lovespink88 07-27-2010 10:08 AM

Overall, I think it's a cute idea. Pink is branded a lot differently than the other VS brands like Angels or Very Sexy or Body by Victoria, and I think many young women realize that. It's more focused on "cute" apparel (including TONS of sweats, tops, dresses, accessories, not just bras and underwear) with fun prints, bright colors. It's not really what one would consider "sexy lingerie". (I worked there and heard a LOT about the differences in branding among the different lines and how we should be promoting them during training and meetings, lol)

Having said that, I do see why people have a problem with it. People here Victoria's Secret and think SEX.

Although I think it's a cute idea, I'll agree with some others and say that my only issue is that it looks like it favors one group over others. But going along the same lines as psusue, I doubt PNMs are going to read into it that much.

ETA: I just remembered that I saw my friend's Pi Beta Phi chapter do a VS theme for Bid Day once, and it worked really well because they played off the whole angels thing.

I obviously don't know all the details because I wasn't there, but from the pictures it looked like they used a lot of pink decorations and theme shirts. The actives wore pink shirts that said "Pi Phi" in the same writing as the original Pink perfume (not the block letters but this, but the ones that look like handwriting) and the Bid Day shirt basically looked like the print on the credit card. They were pink with "Pi Beta Phi" written over a bunch of times in the background then "Angels" really big in script over it (like this: http://tinyurl.com/296hc5v). I thought it was done really well!

ETAA: I just realized that this is where my username comes from LOL I wanted something different, something that's not linked to me anywhere else when I registered for GC, and this was the best I could come up with.

MysticCat 07-27-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1959404)
Pink is branded a lot differently than the other VS brands like Angels or Very Sexy or Body by Victoria, and I think many young women realize that.

Okay, I'll admit it: Until this thread, I didn't know Victoria's Secret had different "brands." To me (obviously not in the target demographic of a recruitment theme), Victoria's Secret = Victoria's Secret= fraternity man's fantasy.

And just shut up now, Drolefille, 'cause I know you want to say something about it. :p

lovespink88 07-27-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1959415)
Okay, I'll admit it: Until this thread, I didn't know Victoria's Secret had different "brands." To me (obviously not in the target demographic of a recruitment theme), Victoria's Secret = Victoria's Secret= fraternity man's fantasy.

And just shut up now, Drolefille, 'cause I know you want to say something about it. :p

Yup! Don't worry, I don't think a lot of people realize it, regardless of gender.

Body by Victoria = basic underwear
Angels = "classic lingerie"...lots of lace and pastels
Very Sexy = the "sexier" stuff...animal prints, reds, lace, see-through stuff
PINK = younger, cuter, focuses on the clothes, not just underwear
Sexy Little Things = kind of a cross between PINK and Very Sexy

Those are the main ones...there's a few smaller ones like Pout and ones that I can't think of the names of, but those are mainly sold in catalog only.

//useless sales associate knowledge

Drolefille 07-27-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1959415)
Okay, I'll admit it: Until this thread, I didn't know Victoria's Secret had different "brands." To me (obviously not in the target demographic of a recruitment theme), Victoria's Secret = Victoria's Secret= fraternity man's fantasy.

And just shut up now, Drolefille, 'cause I know you want to say something about it. :p

You can't make me :p

I did actually figure that out based on your post and that's why I posted the pics. I purposefully did not comment on typical parent attitude of "Male fantasy WHOOO but NOT MY DAUGHTER NUH UH" >.>

agzg 07-27-2010 10:47 AM

Quick, someone think of a young, cute, not overtly sexy model so I can make a comparison between Tyra/Heidi and her!

Drolefille 07-27-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1959424)
Quick, someone think of a young, cute, not overtly sexy model so I can make a comparison between Tyra/Heidi and her!

Do not google "Young Model" at work.

http://www.teenvogue.com/industry/mo...eliman#slide=1

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MysticCat 07-27-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1959420)
You can't make me :p

:p back.

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I did actually figure that out based on your post and that's why I posted the pics. I purposefully did not comment on typical parent attitude of "Male fantasy WHOOO but NOT MY DAUGHTER NUH UH" >.>
I almost did flesh that out a little more (no pun intended). I don't think it's really "typical parent attitude of 'Male fantasy WHOOO but NOT MY DAUGHTER NUH UH'". I think it's more "I know how 18-22 year-old guys think, and what they think with half-the time. More maturity and having kids of my own has given me a different perspective on it all."

ree-Xi 07-27-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1959426)
Do not google "Young Model" at work.

http://www.teenvogue.com/industry/mo...eliman#slide=1

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Holy stick legs. I thought mine were scrawny. Then again, mine are more "chicken legs" than sticks. Love the outfit and especially the boots, though. Carry on.

agzg 07-27-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1959426)
Do not google "Young Model" at work.

http://www.teenvogue.com/industry/mo...eliman#slide=1

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Sure, but I was thinking more juvenile in terms of how she's dressed.

Meh, anyway, it's like... Delia's VS. Banana Republic in terms of style, I guess. One is marketed toward teens/young adults (btw I HATE Delia's), one is marketed towards adult women/men. I'm losing myself in this comparison. Must now stop.

Drolefille 07-27-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1959432)
Sure, but I was thinking more juvenile in terms of how she's dressed.

Meh, anyway, it's like... Delia's VS. Banana Republic in terms of style, I guess. One is marketed toward teens/young adults (btw I HATE Delia's), one is marketed towards adult women/men. I'm losing myself in this comparison. Must now stop.

It's alright I tried to get that across from the branding post I made. Also that was the only post I could find that wasn't a modeling agency or porn. So... you get what you get.

NinjaPoodle 07-27-2010 01:44 PM

This is for the old people :)
 
*Ninjapoodle slips in*

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1959033)
I do indeed have space.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1958968)
Got an extra rocking chair, and maybe a lemonade? I am right there with you.

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1958716)
Proof that I'm becoming an old lady. Underwear brand as a theme, and I'm also concerned about copyright and trademark issues. I wanted the XYZ and the City, Tiffany's, and other themes like that to go away, but this isn't what I was thinking.

I'll be on my porch in a rocking chair with a shot gun telling kids to get the hell off my lawn.

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 1959058)
Make room for me on that porch -- I think this is appalling, and I'm not even old enough to have a daughter in college. (And I loved the SATC TV show.) I know a brilliant, accomplished LaTech Phi Mu alum, and I can't see attracting women like her this way.

I mean, we are talking about a lingerie store. The entire brand is about looking sexy in minimal clothing. Next we will hear about a Hooters theme, or the rush chairs can display their skills on the stripper pole. I bet the PNMs will love it.

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1959296)
Pass the Lemonade. I'll bring some cheese straws.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1959393)
Passing you a lemonade...I'd make it a Guinness, but it's still morning here under the Carolina blue.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yROTVjDHx5nk4=http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...oyn_XbQ486a7c=
For you Alpha Frog..http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...61HLxpQRGwVS4=
*Ninjapoodle slips out*

ASTalumna06 07-27-2010 02:09 PM

I hope there's a seat left on that porch for me!

I think the point is, there are how many other REALLY SUPER DUPER OMG THAT'S SO FREAKIN' ADORABLE themes out there, that Victoria's Secret shouldn't be included in that list.

To be honest, I CAN'T STAND the idea of themes, anyway. I used to hate doing them for recruitment parties, and I'm so glad that when I joined my chapter, the few COB events that I went to didn't have themes.

And if Panhellenic as a whole had a Victoria's Secret theme when I was a freshman, I would have went running in the other direction.

I don't know what the campus culture is like there, but depending on where you are, I think you could be "turning away" a lot of really great girls who are already a little freaked out by sorority recruitment to begin with.. and now probably assume that you're doing it in your underwear.

Pillow fight, anyone?

mlj.kd2218 07-28-2010 01:41 PM

Okay, okay. I have read through your posts and I must say I was surprised with some of the views.

First, thanks to those who actually posted ideas for decorations. That is a big help. I'll post photos of the lodge when it gets decorated.

Secondly, when I say "theme" I actually mean a general slogan. The theme is used in the recruitment t-shirt design and how the panhellenic lodge is decorated. We are focusing on the colors of the sororities more than anything. Below is the design of the t-shirt.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ss14/Cover.jpg

Our university is very conservative and located on the Bible belt. Nothing sexy or suggestive will be used for the theme. So no, there will not be underwear hanging from the ceiling or photos of models in lingerie. Yea, a banner that says “Dress as Trashy as Possible, Party Every Night, Blow Off College” will be displayed. Not really. There are risks with every theme. A sports theme can appear too butch, a Tiffany’s theme too girly, or the puzzle piece and road sign themes can seem stale and cheesy. The key to using this theme is to do it in a tasteful manner, focusing on the décor and style not the lingerie.

The theme is based on the VS Pink brand. The stripes, the dog, the crest and the decor of the VS store are used for inspiration. Like it was pointed out before, many other sororities have used the Victoria's Secret theme for their Bid Day.

As for using too much pink, blue will be used instead since it is one of our university colors.

I highly doubt that PNMs will notice that the theme is based on VS. If they relate the use of stripes, dogs, and collegiate decor to lingerie and being too sexy then they have looked too much into the theme. VS Pink theme is about being yourself, confident, and having fun. Is that not encouraged in a sorority?

ree-Xi 07-28-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mlj.kd2218 (Post 1959920)
Okay, okay. I have read through your posts and I must say I was surprised with some of the views.

First, thanks to those who actually posted ideas for decorations. That is a big help. I'll post photos of the lodge when it gets decorated.

Secondly, when I say "theme" I actually mean a general slogan. The theme is used in the recruitment t-shirt design and how the panhellenic lodge is decorated. We are focusing on the colors of the sororities more than anything. Below is the design of the t-shirt.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ss14/Cover.jpg

Our university is very conservative and located on the Bible belt. Nothing sexy or suggestive will be used for the theme. So no, there will not be underwear hanging from the ceiling or photos of models in lingerie. Yea, a banner that says “Dress as Trashy as Possible, Party Every Night, Blow Off College” will be displayed. Not really. There are risks with every theme. A sports theme can appear too butch, a Tiffany’s theme too girly, or the puzzle piece and road sign themes can seem stale and cheesy. The key to using this theme is to do it in a tasteful manner, focusing on the décor and style not the lingerie.

The theme is based on the VS Pink brand. The stripes, the dog, the crest and the decor of the VS store are used for inspiration. Like it was pointed out before, many other sororities have used the Victoria's Secret theme for their Bid Day.

As for using too much pink, blue will be used instead since it is one of our university colors. Here are some clips of a slide show. You can get a better idea of how the theme will go.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide1-1.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide2-1.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide3-1.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide4-1.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide5-1.pnghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...4/slide6-1.png

I highly doubt that PNMs will notice that the theme is based on VS. If they relate the use of stripes, dogs, and collegiate decor to lingerie and being sexy then they have looked too much into the theme. VS Pink theme is about being yourself, confident, and having fun. Is that not encouraged in a sorority?

Really? You've taken half of the two-word brand name "X's Secret", used the "Go (color)" slogan, used the heart, the dog, the stripes, and the Angles' wings, and you don't think that people will notice it's all based on VS?


knight_shadow 07-28-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1959426)
Do not google "Young Model" at work.

http://www.teenvogue.com/industry/mo...eliman#slide=1

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Chanel Iman is gorgeous.

/mycontributiontothisthread

Drolefille 07-28-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1959945)
Chanel Iman is gorgeous.

/mycontributiontothisthread

Isn't she though? I know jack all about models (who aren't hosting major television shows).

DrPhil 07-28-2010 02:25 PM

It's kinda catchy and I get what they are trying to do.

The PINK Collegiate Collection has new styles for the fall and these styles aren't intended to be sexy. They are collegiate and kind of athletic. Arguably, if a school doesn't mind being represented under "Victoria Secret's PINK loves (insert school)" then there may not be too much offense to it depending on who you ask.

HOWEVER...I have to say the words on the pillows and comforter here made me cringe and this gets back to how it undeniably is Victoria's Secret (and cheesy). I know this bed set has nothing to do with the recruitment theme discussed in this thread but it goes to show that separating the Victoria Secret connotation from it all may prove difficult.

http://media.victoriassecret.com/fea...-to-school.jpg

knight_shadow 07-28-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1959948)
Isn't she though? I know jack all about models (who aren't hosting major television shows).

I paid attention back in the Cindy/Claudia/Naomi days, but now I have more important things to worry about (Damn real world :mad:)

Chanel Iman, Adriana Lima, and a few others still get priority placement in my brain lol

ASTalumna06 07-28-2010 02:26 PM

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There are risks with every theme. A sports theme can appear too butch, a Tiffany’s theme too girly, or the puzzle piece and road sign themes can seem stale and cheesy.
Which, again, is the reason why I don't like themes.

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Like it was pointed out before, many other sororities have used the Victoria's Secret theme for their Bid Day.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

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I highly doubt that PNMs will notice that the theme is based on VS.
If you don't want girls to know that it's a VS theme, why make it a "sorta-kinda" VS theme and hope that no one notices?

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VS Pink theme is about being yourself, confident, and having fun. Is that not encouraged in a sorority?
When I think of being myself, being confident and having fun, VS Pink is the last thing that comes to mind.

I think after your explanation about the theme, I'm just not understanding the reasoning behind using it.

Drolefille 07-28-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1959955)

I think after your explanation about the theme, I'm just not understanding the reasoning behind using it.

I'm going with "cause it's cute"

Ucacheer2213 08-02-2010 03:37 PM

I think she means more of the Pink Brand of VS which is geared towards college students,and more classy.

nittanygirl 08-02-2010 03:50 PM

I think there is a difference b/w a Victoria's Secret theme & a Victoria's Secret PINK theme.
PINK is geared towards college girls. I actually like the idea now that I've seen the pictures/what they're going to do with it.

I agree bras and thongs and other lingerie is WAY inappropriate...but I don't think the dog & the "GO PINK...GO GREEN...GO GREEK" thing has anything inappropriate with it
There's a difference in decorating with bras & decorating with personalized logos.
How many times have we all seen the "Coca-Cola" shirts for groups or the "Crush" party shirts The Tiffany Co. shirts...
ABC sorority... Anxiously awaiting our Fall Collection.... that's just the logos

DeltaZeta09 08-06-2010 01:53 AM

If people are offended by the VS aspect of it, maybe you could decorate it more as a clothing store in general? Although the "Go red, purple... greek" would be enough for me to assume it's VS. Honestly, as someone in that demographic, the Pink brand is very innocent and fun. Nothing see through like the more adult brand so I don't think it's inappopriate at all.

As for decorations, polka dots would be cute. A stuffed dog if you have the funds. It would be cute if you could even put little wall hangs on a wall and hang sorority shirts with the letters on them, sort of like clothing is displayed. You could sorta copy their sayings, they have "Love Pink" and all that so you could do "Love Greek/Sisterhood/Philanthropy" banners.


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