Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925724)

So that really puts it in context..... women are under a different standard, their pledging processes are a lot different than anything I've seen, cause well women are emotional, men we like a sense of accomplishment... Yes we actually want our members to feel like they accomplished something, and it wasn't just given to them...

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925762)

I can't believe people can expouse such nonsense about the genders with a straight face.

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925781)

Now things are being taken out of context.

I am not a sexist, as i tried to remark earlier both sexes feel a sense of accomplishment.

Also the light is a joke, if you don't get that, theres a problem... And i have been interview in a dark room by the NSA before, not something id repeat. nor care to talk about. Our interviews are not anything like it.We don't interrogate, we interview, there are 2 sides to a conversation.

>> There was no indication that this was a joke.

It wasn't a joke. and i wont go into it any further.

As for the Game I mentioned OUT of context again.

What i was remarking on is that to be in a community service organization it should probably be a requirement that you do community service. just saying it sounds like common sense but the internet lacks this.

There has to be standards in every organization otherwise i would play for the Yankees getting paid millions cause i can suck at baseball. but getting rid of me isn't an option cause then we would have requirements and that would mean that some people don't quite fit what we are looking for.

>> I sincerely believe that if you look at your stated ideals, you can find appropriate and effective methods for your pledges to learn and grow in the processes of becoming a member/brother.

The quote and statement here don't match. I'm saying that in order to weed out people, you need requirements. our pledge process was the best thing to happen to me in college. we have never had a complaint, yes we are a young fraternity but as soon as we come up with a problem we will remedy it.

as for the lack of your sorority to comment on their process shows its hiding something.


I would like to explain why i posted this.

as a way to constructively edit our process so that we could find a truly good way of running things, we like what we have, but there is always room for improvement its a dedication to excellence.

I will also like to retract a few negative comments i made as they where not constructive, and didn't contribute to the process as i hoped.

as for the spelling thing and grammar Ill stand by what i said.
After you write multiple papers and take multiple finals, you kind take a mental break. ITS A FORUM, not a national convention or a job, its a forum... not only that its on the internet, sorry that doesn't help its case.
drop the topic form here I don't care what you think about my spelling, i really don't care... thats not what i wanted out of this.

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1925783)

Another prime example of keeping your identity on here to yourself. No commentary provided, though, because to do so would be judgmental. :rolleyes:

Oh, thank you for the entertainment tonight.

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"I'm single, and looking....really looking...more for a relationship,or any friendship i can get."

"I am both a first degree Freemason and a member of the Illuminati. I pledged Alpha Zeta Phi my first semester on campus, and are now a full brother and Treasurer."

"I love curling with a passion, Curling is my life"

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925789)

DRphil ill go ahead and call you out, how is that constructive?

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925789)

DRphil ill go ahead and call you out, how is that constructive?

as for the emotional comment for stereotyping women, seriously if you have an argument that women arn't emotional? you've got to be messed in the head. women play mind games to mess with people they dont like, men just use physical. more so we just don't care.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925794)

He's talking about weights and not hair curling.

The OP is nothingness. He isn't a Mason, Illuminati, and he's barely in a fraternity. But, thanks for the entertainment.

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1925796)

indeed. all this illuminati talk led me to the vigilant citizen where i read about lady gaga and how her music shows that she is an illuminati slave. :D

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1925801)

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925814)

try new world order for Illuminati

and I'm not talking about lifting weights I'm talking about the Olympic winter sport

as i explained with the game comment it was taken out of context....

Ive realized I've found most of the trolls on this page.... ironic... very. that has gone from being about bettering the system to a very personalized attack, i give props to whoever pull my Facebook page. yea im sure my chats with my ex girlfriend are game too now, why don't we just start the comments on that?

Ive lost my respect for nearly everyone that has posted here. there where a total of 2 constructive posts, Thank you to those 2 people.

Im hoping some of you will view your posts and actually use the college degree ... just a thought. and to the rest of you grow a spine, nothing here is that big a deal.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925815)

FLOUNCE

womp womp @ the winter Olympics sport

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1925821)

i just realized u thought curling meant lifting weights. *snicker*

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925823)

You never heard of curling weights?

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1925845)

yes, but the Olympic sport just seemed to be more hilarious to go along with being a member of the illuminati. :D

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1925850)

LOL.

I was thinking a super masculine guy lifting weights so he can be buff and accomplished when he kicks it with the Masons and Illuminati.

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1925724)

So that really puts it in context..... women are under a different standard, their pledging processes are a lot different than anything I've seen, cause well women are emotional, men we like a sense of accomplishment... Yes we actually want our members to feel like they accomplished something, and it wasn't just given to them...

thanks for the first bit of good advice. ill look into the pledging standards for other frats.

thanks

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1925924)

Bump for the rest of the morning crew who, like myself, missed out last night.

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1925924)

Bump for the rest of the morning crew who, like myself, missed out last night.

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1926032)

Thank god someone with a constructive post.

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1926032)

Thank god someone with a constructive post.

ok apply that to what we do, I'm sorry I don't see it. the student org director closely monitors the group, if he had a problem with it he would ask us to change it.

I know what others do to make their process more fun and such.

to answer all the other questions Illuminati means enlightened.... Wikipedia actually has it close to what we do.... and what we have done.... theres a lot here that isn't discussed and wont be.

as for the Curling, its a sport like any other, go trying before you dis it. its a lot of fun.

as for the Freemasons, for those that don't understand what Freemasons do, yes there are things that Templars do that isn't for the public, but its for the most part a society of philanthropy. we run hospitals for children, that there is no costs for the patents.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1926047)

And sorry, saying "Well, they don't have to do it if they don't want to" isn't a good enough defense against the hazing charge.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1926051)

Yeah because the question is whether they can decline without any negative consequences.

On that note, what I call "legalized hazing" is so common and normative in so many non-GLO aspects of societies. I understand why GLOers get confused about what is and is not appropriate. That's why they should defer to policies and the law rather than "common sense."

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1926051)

Yeah because the question is whether they can decline without any negative consequences.

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1926059)

Not exactly, the law seems to add that the forced activity must endanger the physical health or safety of the student.

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1925783)

Oh, thank you for the entertainment tonight.

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. . . [I]"I am both a first degree Freemason and a member of the Illuminati. "

Originally Posted by AZPHI JOURNEAUX (Post 1926032)

to answer all the other questions Illuminati means enlightened.... Wikipedia actually has it close to what we do.... and what we have done.... theres a lot here that isn't discussed and wont be.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1926062)

I wasn't talking about the law in that part of my post. :) When you say someone can technically decline something, you have to be realistic about whether declining will result in the same rights, responsibilities, and treatment as those who don't decline.

It rarely does.

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1926081)

Law aside, what does that matter? All Greek organizations I know of require new members to do something. I'm sure in your organization as well as mine, if people opted out of those somethings, there'd be consequences.