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mkprncss 04-28-2010 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1922213)
I am wondering why the adviser has to meet with the heads of the groups. Panhellenic should be able to say very easily (and so should the greek adviser but whatever!) that you can or cannot according to the bylaws (which probably only matters if the local is a member and most likely not at all if they are not associates). the rule would be strictly panhellenic's and not any NPCs and hopefully they are all educated enough to know that.
The advisor doesn't HAVE to. I think she just wants to. According to her they have no right to deny me the right to Rush again per their by-laws. She just wants to make sure that they don't think I"m walking in off the street trying to piss everyone off.

mkprncss 04-28-2010 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922219)
I don't think anyone on here will deny they have been in a fight with a memeber or seen members quit over fights. We aren't saying you didn't have something bad happen or a negative experience but that doesn't mean you can join another and another each time life gives you lemons.
I don't plan on joining one after the other. The one I was in just wasn't for me. I love greek life and I want to be completely involved in it again but in a situation that better suits me.

knight_shadow 04-28-2010 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922232)
Did you not have a good GPA and get invited to join those Shadow? Actually they are harder to stay in than Greek life because the maintain a 3.0 and get 10 service points a semester etc.
When you learn how to write a sentence properly, you can respond to me :)

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922237)
You talk big for a Latino Fraternity founded only 23 years ago.
Baa-zing! Right for the jugular! You sure know how to make me feel like less of a man!

atoheadlines 04-28-2010 01:52 AM
Maybe Shadow you just don't value education. At my school all Greek organizations had to join a honor/service society that required a 2.8 GPA as well as a regular club or campus group.

knight_shadow 04-28-2010 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922254)
Maybe Shadow you just don't value education. At my school all Greek organizations had to join a honor/service society that required a 2.8 GPA as well as a regular club or campus group.
The organizations themselves? Or the members of said organizations?

Try again :)

atoheadlines 04-28-2010 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1922257)
The organizations themselves? Or the members of said organizations?

Try again :)
If everyone in the organizations are required to do it and they make up the organizations then the organizations are required to do it. I make sense.

knight_shadow 04-28-2010 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922259)
If everyone in the organizations are required to do it and they make up the organizations then the organizations are required to do it. I make sense.
Faulty logic.

But what do I know? I'm just an alumnus of a lowly Latino fraternity :( Shame on me!

AXiDMeesh 04-28-2010 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1922245)
Baa-zing! Right for the jugular! You sure know how to make me feel like less of a man!
Lol lol.

Why is this fool still here?

AnotherKD 04-28-2010 09:16 AM
Back to the original topic...

OP, looking at your posts, you said you were in the local for not quite 2 semesters and you have been out of that local for a year now. So, on top of everyone knowing you were in the local and probably not wanting to extend a bid to you for that, you'll also be rushing as a Junior?

aopirose 04-28-2010 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1922175)
If the local is a full member of Panhel, you should not rush a new sorority.

As I stated before, it would be a total diss/invalidation of your previous sorority, and unless the local is a total and complete joke and no one on campus respects them, any NPC that takes you is not going to be looked at kindly either. "Wow...XYZ must be in trouble...they're taking the local's leftovers."

Seriously, I would not have any respect for a chapter that did this. You would have to be super incredible awesome to infinity (or, as I said, the local would have to be a complete joke on the verge of dying out, and even then people might have pity on them) for a chapter to take on the burdens that might come with bidding you.
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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 1922324)
OP, looking at your posts, you said you were in the local for not quite 2 semesters and you have been out of that local for a year now. So, on top of everyone knowing you were in the local and probably not wanting to extend a bid to you for that, you'll also be rushing as a Junior?

I don't think it's a good plan either.

violetpretty 04-28-2010 11:33 AM
If you don't care what kind of mess you make (in terms of relations to your local) and you don't care if you don't get a bid (meaning you'd rather not wonder "what if"), I say go for it. However, I think the GCers have warned you of what could happen with the local and the chapter you want and I think you're REALLY setting yourslef up for disappointment by only wanting one chapter.

Oh, and als463, it's not necessarily ZTA; it could also be AXO (victims of domestic violence) or DPhiE (anorexia nervosa) too...their philanthropies is more geard toward women, but not exclusively so.

33girl 04-28-2010 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mkprncss (Post 1922235)
You said I'm probably not as well known as I think I am. Just saying that the exec would have to give reason to the entire sorority when they vote.
Noooooooooooo, that is not what I said. I said they probably don't love you as much as you think they do to go out on a limb for you. I'm pretty sure you ARE well known at this point. Actually "notorious" might be a better word for the situation.

KSUViolet06 04-28-2010 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1922414)
Noooooooooooo, that is not what I said. I said they probably don't love you as much as you think they do to go out on a limb for you. I'm pretty sure you ARE well known at this point. Actually "notorious" might be a better word for the situation.
This.

They could like you. They might genuinely think "Man I feel really bad for mkprncss and what happened with the local." They may even enjoy having you around and inviting you to chapter dinner. That doesn't mean they want their sorority to be the one who went out on a limb to give you a bid (for whatever reason).

Obviously you want to try, so good luck, but I am just pointing out that like doesn't always = bid.

mkprncss 04-28-2010 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherKD (Post 1922324)
Back to the original topic...

OP, looking at your posts, you said you were in the local for not quite 2 semesters and you have been out of that local for a year now. So, on top of everyone knowing you were in the local and probably not wanting to extend a bid to you for that, you'll also be rushing as a Junior?
Yep. However I have roughly three more years (if not four) here

thetygerlily 04-28-2010 02:29 PM
As long as you understand that there are no guarantees for a bid and that things may not coming out smelling like roses, I say go for it. You won't know unless you try. Things could blow up, big time, but maybe- just maybe- they wouldn't. It's hard to say when we don't really know the campus culture and how the local is perceived.

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Originally Posted by mkprncss (Post 1922231)
I'm the only one besides the advisor that will know I'm suiciding.
However... don't go through only for one group. You are already going to have a harder time because of your history with the local and potentially due to your age (some groups/schools care, some don't). What if this group cuts you on night one- would you drop out after going through so much effort to ensure you're eligible to go through? Keep an open mind and remember that it's a mutual selection process. You could wind up in that group, you could fall in love with another, or maybe not end up anywhere. So if you decide to go through recruitment, do it fully.

mkprncss 04-28-2010 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thetygerlily (Post 1922510)
As long as you understand that there are no guarantees for a bid and that things may not coming out smelling like roses, I say go for it. You won't know unless you try. Things could blow up, big time, but maybe- just maybe- they wouldn't. It's hard to say when we don't really know the campus culture and how the local is perceived.



However... don't go through only for one group. You are already going to have a harder time because of your history with the local and potentially due to your age (some groups/schools care, some don't). What if this group cuts you on night one- would you drop out after going through so much effort to ensure you're eligible to go through? Keep an open mind and remember that it's a mutual selection process. You could wind up in that group, you could fall in love with another, or maybe not end up anywhere. So if you decide to go through recruitment, do it fully.

Thank you for your advice. I do plan on being open minded about the other groups as well. I agree--I may fall in love with a completely different one.

As for my age, I'm only 20. I didn't think that was old for a sorority!

thetygerlily 04-28-2010 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mkprncss (Post 1922514)
Thank you for your advice. I do plan on being open minded about the other groups as well. I agree--I may fall in love with a completely different one.

As for my age, I'm only 20. I didn't think that was old for a sorority!
Ha, no it isn't necessarily old for a sorority- I meant that in terms of how many more years you will be in school. That really matters at some schools- and is a factor in some way or another. At mine, we had small chapters (all around 25-30) so most actives had leadership roles. An upperclass student had fewer years to serve as an officer- so that was a factor. But at the same time, we also liked them for what they brought to the table in terms of diversity of experience & maturity. So in the end it was a wash. However- at some schools it is an automatic out unless you are incredibly amazing and fantastic. Not saying you aren't, but you do have a couple of strikes to be mindful of. Hence my recommendation to either go through it fully (without intention of Single Intentional Preferencing, aka suiciding) or stop now.


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