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Excuse me, but guilt has not yet been determined. Even if Mumia did do it, your response is incredibly rude. Threads like this are supposed to encourage RESPECTFUL debate. Responding like this won't get anyone to listen to your opinion. Instead, you'll simply be discounted to a racist loon.

insaneclown = the constantly banned madmax

He logs on to try to be rude and disrespectful. Shame on you for actually reading his posts, let alone responding. :)

From what I've read, the seven year old was questioned by the police about what happened, and she was the one who said that her soon-to-be stepbrother had a blanket wrapped around something and told her that her mother wasn't making breakfast. He also didn't want the fiancee & her daughter moving in, let alone having a baby around. Throw in the fingerprint evidence, and it's going to take one fantastic attorney to use anything but his age to get this kid off.

As for remorse, guilty or not, psychiatric reports from both sides say that he has no remorse that the fiancee & the baby are dead.

I stand by my original statement that we need to have a halfway prison of sorts, for the hardcore juvenile offender. A kid who kills shouldn't be with truants, nor should a kid who kills be with adult offenders.

Somewhat relevant to the discussion at hand, I wanted to post this a few months ago after first reading it but never did.
http://www.freep.com/article/2010022...or-killer-kids

The problem is, there are a whole lot of people who could die and I would have no sadness about their death. That doesn't mean that I would kill them myself.

I think this is the problem and it's got everyone's La Perlas in a bunch. If he didn't do it, why's the little bugger gotta show any remorse? :confused:

I think showing no remorse makes him less like an adult and more like a child with a poorly developed brain. The sad thing is that we just don't know what to do with these children. If this kid really did kill his dad's girlfriend, he did what was the easiest thing to do in his child-like brain with the easily accessible gun in his closet. He doesn't have the capacity to understand the intricacies of what he should and should not be feeling. All he knows is that he didn't want her around, he figured a way to make her go away, he apparently wasn't bright enough and didn't have enough parental guidance to figure out that his choice was a bad one. That does NOT make him an adult and should not make him liable to adult consequences. He certainly doesn't have the brain development at 12 of an adult!

^^^ETA: Yeah, that! :p

Thus the problem with putting his rationale on par with adults. What 12-year-old do you know would be sitting around thinking, "I can't look remorseful because that would undermine my defense and I have a constitutional right not to say I did it. They have to prove it so I should hide any remorse I feel so I won't help them out." Uh no. That's the rationale of an adult, not a child--which then brings us back to the topic.

Seriously, has anyone else seen this kid on television? Has anyone else seen his demeanor?

I've only seen pictures, which make me think "He's such a little kid". Going to hunt for videos online...

Can't find any online videos of this kid on television. If you read the website his dad has put up though, it sounds like the case against him is pretty shaky.

http://www.savejordanbrown.com
Then I came across this blog:
http://wandervogeldiary.wordpress.co...-jordan-brown/

How can this child get a fair trial after this? The judge basically said that this kid committed first degree murder! I am stunned! Is this standard in Pennsylvania? Attention all lawyers, please watch this video and weigh in on this!

Not a lawyer, but yes, they are truly acting as though this child has already been tried.

Ok, if my memory serves me correctly, didn't one of the articles say something about him leaving shell casings (or something like that) with his fingerprints on them along his route to the school bus? The bus that he takes with his step-sister? If this is the case then the judge is wrong about him acting with "Criminal sophistication in concealing evidence." What sophisticated criminal would leave their fingerprints on the casings and leave them on the ground like Hansel and Gretel? It actually sounds as if he has already made up his mind about the case.

I had read that, and then I read that the woman was killed with one shot to the head so where do multiple shell casings come in? School officials are saying that both Jordan and the 7 year old were in school and called down to the office to tell them of the murder and both seemed shocked/surprised at the time. School staff report that the children acted no differently. His defense page indicates that the woman who was killed had her life threatened by an ex-boyfriend. The gun was obviously going to have this kid's fingerprints on it because it was his gun that he'd received for Christmas. They said there was gun powder on his clothes. Is there a chance he was messing with his gun before school, dropped THOSE shells on the ground, left the gun out or somewhere visible and somebody else used it to kill this woman? According to reports on his defense website, he was a good student, had been in no trouble previously and talked excitedly about his new family.

Additionally, the staff psychiatrist at the facility where he has been for a year says he has been appropriate. The psychiatrist hired by the prosecution is the one who says he can't be rehabilitated because he won't accept responsibility for his actions.

And, the kids own father believes the kid to be innocent. Would you fight that hard for a kid who killed your fiance and future child? I don't know how a parent should react in this instance, but I think unconditional love doesn't really exist and if the dad didn't really think his child was innocent, he wouldn't be visiting the kid 6 days a week.

I don't know what I believe at this point. I'd have to hear all the physical evidence they say they have against this kid. I wouldn't want to be on this jury.

In the meantime, this kid is hanging out with delinquents and I have to wonder what behaviors he is learning from them.

I WOULDN'T be on this jury. No way I could decide this case. There's too many things going on with this case. Oh, and if this happened before school...why is it that no one heard the shot?