Originally Posted by DeltaIVA (Post 1969788)

I was in your exact same position two years ago. I am Indian, a Junior at UT, and I went to a predominantly white high school where a lot of the girls who were going to UT were rushing. I didn't know much about how the system worked as far as race is concerned, so I just did the preparations (rec letters, professional pictures, etc.) and went in with a positive attitude.

I rushed with another Indian girl from my high school, and I met 4 or 5 other Indian girls who were also rushing. NONE of us got into ANY sorority. They do not let you in if you're Indian. Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

As far as the Indian sororities are concerned, I honestly don't know much about them that isn't hearsay, so I won't say anything about them here.

Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1969873)

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1969873)

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA (Post 1969788)

I was in your exact same position two years ago. I am Indian, a Junior at UT, and I went to a predominantly white high school where a lot of the girls who were going to UT were rushing. I didn't know much about how the system worked as far as race is concerned, so I just did the preparations (rec letters, professional pictures, etc.) and went in with a positive attitude.

I rushed with another Indian girl from my high school, and I met 4 or 5 other Indian girls who were also rushing. NONE of us got into ANY sorority. They do not let you in if you're Indian. Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

As far as the Indian sororities are concerned, I honestly don't know much about them that isn't hearsay, so I won't say anything about them here.

Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970339)

How many Juniors do you know who received bids? Or should I say how many Juniors received bids to a "good" sorority?

Originally Posted by sunnygirl2 (Post 1913644)

the simplest answer:

the average minority will always have a harder time getting a bid at a southern school versus the average caucasian. that's just how it is

i don't know your stats/ecs/connections though, so you may have a much better chance that the "average minority"

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA (Post 1969788)

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Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA (Post 1969788)

Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi (Post 1970403)

Firstly, I'm not denying that being a certain ethnicity or not being a certain ethnicity can cause impediments when one wants to join some chapters of GLO's (this includes NPC, NPHC, etc.) at some campuses at some points in time.

The XYZ chapter at West Cost University may not be welcoming to a certain ethnicity, but the XYZ chapter at East Coast University may be super-welcoming. Also, the trends of said chapter at West Coast and East Coast University may change over time (and obviously, the people doing the actual recruiting will change) and in ten years , you may see the opposite trends at these schools. The point is, times change, people's feelings change, and perhaps most importantly, student body demographics change (especially at public universities).

I just wanted to point out that the recruitment classes at UT Austin and many Texas/SEC schools are so incredibly legacy-heavy (where many girls are double, triple, or even more, and often chapter legacies on top of that). It's just a fact that Indian Americans and other Asian Americans generally don't have deep-rooted GLO traditions in their families (yet!).

All else being equal, a non-legacy being picked over a double legacy is just not realistic. Yes, all familial Greek roots have to start sometime and somewhere, but Texas just isn't a promising place to do that. Can a non-legacy (of any ethnicity) beat out a Texas triple-legacy (who's well-qualified in her own right) for a bid? Sure, it can happen, but said non-legacy had better have Einstein's brains, Jerry Lewis's enthusiasm for philanthropy, Miss Universe's looks, George Clooney's [perceived] personality and charm, and other talents/accomplishments as well (performing arts, athletics, etc.). You can work out the probability of that on your own.

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA (Post 1969788)

They do not let you in if you're Indian. A
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Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1970463)

Crap, someone may want to tell that to my sorority, Kappa Delta, because we've got some prominent alumnae that are Indian.

Mona Jain:
https://friends.kappadelta.org/alumn...AA/FL/jain.xml

Her daughter Anila Jain is also a KD and is Vice Chairman of our Foundation.

We even have a scholarship named after them:
https://friends.kappadelta.org/conte...dationnews.xml

And crap, I'd better tell the chapter that I advise about the no-Indian rule, because they've initiated a number of them.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1970497)

Is this sarcasm with the "them" and highlighting the notable East Indians in Kappa Delta? It reads tongue in cheek but it's hard to tell.

DeltaIVA's (I hate that username) post is dumb all by itself. When NPCers (white and nonwhite) explain, it sometimes doesn't have the effect that the NPCers planned.

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi (Post 1970403)

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS (Post 1970612)

Oh yaay me too :)

I would think (b.c of her user name) DeltaIVA was involved in a culturally based GLO that is pretty large at UT. I surely hope she isn't.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1970353)

She said she's a junior now, and she rushed two years ago. I think she was a freshman when she went through recruitment. That being said, she leaves a lot of holes open in her story.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1970632)

Look at the hidden diversity of GC.

If she is, she's an idiot for crying that she was essentially rejected because of her race. We don't welcome rejects.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970657)

I think Jess was referring to Delta Kappa Delta, which is a good sized Indian and South Asian sorority at Texas. Which is why I found the part of the post where she says that she doesn't know much about the Indian sororities rather strange given her user name. I pretty much assumed her posting here was a calculated move to steer Indian and other South Asian women away from NPC recruitment and into other options..

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1970663)

In that case, her username is even more interesting.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970671)

Especially since her claim that Indian women are not given bids by the NPCs at Texas and there was only one Indian woman in any of the groups during rush 2008. It's just not true and I call ulterior motive on this one.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970657)

I think Jess was referring to Delta Kappa Delta, which is a good sized Indian and South Asian sorority at Texas.

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1970721)

The plot thickens! I missed GC.

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1970386)

Oh, I missed that little comment. That clears things up.

I love when people say "I didn't get a bid because of _________" and then say something like that. Assholery is an equal opportunity employer, people.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970725)

I just think it's odd that someone with a user name that implies association with an Indian interest sorority comes here the day before fall recruitment convocation to make one post that tells Indian women that they have no chance of getting a bid in an NPC sorority (or at least a "good" one.) Because that simply is not the truth.

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1970657)

I think Jess was referring to Delta Kappa Delta, which is a good sized Indian and South Asian sorority at Texas. Which is why I found the part of the post where she says that she doesn't know much about the Indian sororities rather strange given her user name. I pretty much assumed her posting here was a calculated move to steer Indian and other South Asian women away from NPC recruitment and into other options.

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS (Post 1970831)

As far as DKD vs. DPO: DPO has more chapters and are more geographically diverse.
DKD is fairly large and pretty well known among Indians at UT, especially since they are dry (no alcohol ever) which appeals to those not looking for that science.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1970775)

I guess it's all about frame of reference. Her username screamed Delta Diva, as in Delta Sigma Theta, to me.

You have to give us something more exciting than that, though. :)

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1970733)

Sidebar: Is Delta Kappa Delta larger than Delta Phi Omega at UT? That was the first organization I thought of.

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS (Post 1970831)

Indeed i was :)
As far as DKD vs. DPO: DPO has more chapters and are more geographically diverse.
DKD is fairly large and pretty well known among Indians at UT, especially since they are dry (no alcohol ever) which appeals to those not looking for that science.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1969873)

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1970854)

Not that anyone cares, but I'm pretty sure Rebecca Logan-the character-is white. Her "heritage" is never mentioned in any storyline, esp during rush. Even if she wasn't a senator's daughter, I'm sure she'd have been regarded as a white PNM.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1970864)

Haha I can't believe you delved into a character's ethnicity.

(and you're right, her father was white anyways)

But I think it serves for some sort of point, Rebecca Logan never made any deal out of whatever ethnicity she was (Partially Portuguese, apparently) and thus was regarded as a white PNM

That's something I think that many people might want to consider as a PNM.

Btw, I would totally marry Dilshad in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1970866)

I assume they never brought up her mother? I saw the "Father's Weekend" episode, but haven't been keeping up enough to know each character's family history.