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AOII Angel 09-16-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1847805)
The new grads are always totally shocked when they come to a "meeting" and it's social, not business. We are a social organization, sisterhood is the main goal. We do philanthropy. Some reporting is necessary, but certainly not to the extent that it was for collegians. We are different from the NPHC.

We have three different types of alumnae groups. Alumnae Chapters have specific requirements and are dedicated to assisting a specific collegiate chapter. Alumnae Clubs are primarily social (and that's what I choose to be in because I work hard for the Fraternity in my Volunteer Services Team position and need "just sisterhood" from my alumnae experience) and Junior Circles are affiliated with a chapter or club but are focused on women below the age of 35 (and are social in nature). Chapters have to have business meetings more often than Clubs. They have more extensive newsletters and a lot more to manage. All of the groups do some community service/philanthropy, but the main focus is most definitely social :)

That's an interesting division, but at least it lets sisters know what to expect going in. My prior post described the average AOII alum chapter...we do have very active chapters with very active schedules that make me wonder how they get so much done with 50 members. It's not the norm, however.

RedRover 09-28-2009 12:41 AM

Another view of AI
 
A friend went through what was called then called sorority rush at a university where sorority recruitment was competitive. Unfortunately for my friend, the three houses that invited her for the preference round were the three houses for which she felt no affinity(one house disbanded after a controversy, one house had a reputation as a hard core party house and the last had a major falling out its national organization and had it charter revoked).

A few years after graduation, some friends asked if she might be interested in joining ABC sorority as an alumnae initiate. My friend said thank you but no thank you. When her friends pressed as to why she was dismissing their offer out of hand, she said explained she went through rush with disappointing results and she told her friends "If I ain't good enough to enter by the front door, I ain't gonna come in by the side door."

33girl 09-28-2009 04:17 PM

I take it the friends were from one of the sororities that didn't invite her back? More than likely they were from a different chapter. I understand what she's saying, but that's kind of a harsh way to put it to them - they might not have been invited through the "front door" at that school either.

myopicsunflower 09-28-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRover (Post 1851742)
"If I ain't good enough to enter by the front door, I ain't gonna come in by the side door."

I'm with 33girl that this sounds harsh. That woman's friends didn't have to offer alumna initiation to her, and the fact that they did indicates that they found her to be exceptional, wanted her for a sister, and thought she would bring good things to their sorority. The woman's response is harsh and, really, just plain rude. She could have declined her friends' invitation in a more gracious manner.

Alumnae initiation isn't the back or side door into a GLO. Sure, there are people who pursue alumnae initiation (there are many opinions on that, and I certainly have mine on the matter), but I believe the vast majority of alumnae initiates are invited by their respective GLOs. If the GLO is doing the asking, alumnae initiation is hardly the back or side door to membership. It's an honor, and you'd better believe that sororities aren't handing out AI invitations like Halloween candy.

ThetaDancer 09-28-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRover (Post 1851742)

A few years after graduation, some friends asked if she might be interested in joining ABC sorority as an alumnae initiate. My friend said thank you but no thank you. When her friends pressed as to why she was dismissing their offer out of hand, she said explained she went through rush with disappointing results and she told her friends "If I ain't good enough to enter by the front door, I ain't gonna come in by the side door."

Your friend sounds really bitter.

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Originally Posted by myopicsunflower (Post 1851911)
If the GLO is doing the asking, alumnae initiation is hardly the back or side door to membership. It's an honor, and you'd better believe that sororities aren't handing out AI invitations like Halloween candy.

Agreed.

karibear 05-09-2010 06:30 PM

AI Gamma Phi Beta
 
I am an alumna initiate of Gamma Phi Beta. I did not have the opportunity to join a sorority in school. I worked my way through college going to a community college and then taking classes at night, weekends, and online for my Bachelors and my Masters. I found Gamma Phi Beta through a resume of an applicant. I identified with the ideals of the organization and joined as an alumna. I have been very active and have helped out with three college initiations and now I am AVP of my chapter. I am not trying to gain an experience of those who joined in college. But I think Gamma Phi is a wonderful organization with amazing women as members and I wanted to be part of an organization. I have enjoyed my time with Gamma Phi and wish that I could have joined when I was in college. I encourage all sisters to be active in their alumnae chapters. We are very active in supporting local charities as well as Camp Fire USA and help support two local colleges as well. Just my thoughts.

GX369 10-05-2010 12:40 PM

Just to throw this out there, AI is also a possibility for colony members that put a ton of work, sweat and tears into building a chapter, but it didn't come to fruition. We had a colony at a small university campus near Atlanta for two years, but it was closed this past spring. I worked very closely with those women and shared their great disappointment (the only other Chapter in Georgia is 4 miles away from us, and it were just installed this past spring). However, those girls are Alpha Sigma Alphas through-and-through, and therefore are being initiated as alum in November. We are reorganizing the Atlanta Alumnae Chapter and these women will be a great addition to our group.
AI isn't to replace the collegian experience and I've never met an AI who thought it would. And if a collegiate member thinks that AI doesn't make sense, she probably doesn't get that membership is for life, and a sister should want to be involved in whatever way possible (depending on life circumstances, of course) after graduation. If a PNM joins a sorority only for the social perks, she's not bringing a lot to the organization. But a PNM who joins because the values, aspirations and ideals of the sisterhood closely match what's already in her heart will move the national organization forward a great deal. That member will continue to enjoy her membership well beyond the college years and will likely show that love to others around her in her lifetime.
Just my two cents.

33girl 10-05-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GX369 (Post 1990955)
If a PNM joins a sorority only for the social perks, she's not bringing a lot to the organization. But a PNM who joins because the values, aspirations and ideals of the sisterhood closely match what's already in her heart will move the national organization forward a great deal. That member will continue to enjoy her membership well beyond the college years and will likely show that love to others around her in her lifetime.
Just my two cents.

And sometimes it happens that the girls who joined just to party end up as the most dedicated and devoted members, on a national and local level, and the ones who joined with lofty aspirations are never heard from again once they move the tassel on their graduation cap. Everyone takes a different journey through Greek life.

KSUViolet06 10-05-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1991088)
And sometimes it happens that the girls who joined just to party end up as the most dedicated and devoted members, on a national and local level, and the ones who joined with lofty aspirations are never heard from again once they move the tassel on their graduation cap. Everyone takes a different journey through Greek life.

True story.

CougADPi 08-25-2011 04:54 PM

We have only one AI member in my chapter that I know of. Her mother was an ADPi. Her daughter was an ADPi. She was on House Corp, always helping with recruitment, and she was always helping supply items that the house needed. She was a fantastic sister before she ever became a sister. Membership was a "thank you" for everything she did (and continues to do).

Other than that, I never knew it was something people actually sought until I came to GC.

flirt5721 08-25-2011 05:26 PM

While I was active we had three AI. One was the grandmother of one of our members and was always helping out for recruitment or whatever we needed. When she was in good health. The president at the time thought that she would be perfect candidate for AI and nominated her. She was now able to share the love her granddaughter had for the fraternity and not wonder about it.

Next one I don't know much about but she was our chapters facility advisor for years.

Last one was the mother of our long time chapter advisor. She was always helping and was always there for the chapter. She helped with recruitment and other events. If I remember correctly she declined AI a few times before she finally did it.

AXiD does AI for mother of colony member if they chose to. It is a way for mothers to share a bond with ttheir daughters. AI is also part of our national convention. Those AI are part of the Alpha Dueteron chapter. There are special requirements needed for AI to happen. I do not believe it is for everyone or that most that are AI think they will be dining the same as the actives.

katydidKD 08-25-2011 06:02 PM

I've heard of one example of AI in KD and it was very cute. A group of very close friends all left and went away to college and all, by coincidence/chance joined Kappa Delta except one who went somewhere that there was not a KD chapter. In their seventies, they were still all close friends and wanted the one friend to be included in something so special to them, they went to HQ and started the process and she was initiated with her close friends :)

KSUViolet06 08-25-2011 06:35 PM

I will say that I met an AWESOME AI sister at Convention last year.

She was working in Student Affairs at James Madison and served as the staff/faculty advisor to our Alpha Upsilon chapter (chapters there are required to have someone on staff working with them.)

She went above and beyond for them (organizing educational events, hosting retreat at her home, etc.) in a position where most people just show up to meetings once in awhile and sign off on important papers.

Her undergrad didn't have Greek Life so she didn't know much about it. Her first exposure to it was in her work at the University and she genuinely enjoyed heelping them out.

This past year she was approached by the chapter and invited to join. She accepted and was initiated at Convention. It was a pretty cool experience. She's also now heavily involved with her local alumnae chapter.


myopicsunflower 08-25-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2084763)
I've heard of one example of AI in KD and it was very cute. A group of very close friends all left and went away to college and all, by coincidence/chance joined Kappa Delta except one who went somewhere that there was not a KD chapter. In their seventies, they were still all close friends and wanted the one friend to be included in something so special to them, they went to HQ and started the process and she was initiated with her close friends :)

This is a very, very sweet story. :)

DubaiSis 08-26-2011 02:29 AM

These are great examples and show what we mean by "rare." And none of these women chose to AI so that they could experience something they missed in their late teens/early 20's.

DeltaBetaBaby 08-26-2011 11:24 AM

Can I just summarize? Most of the AI's seem to fall into one of the following categories:

1) Long-time housemother/Greek affairs person/other University staff who have done a lot for the org
2) Relative of one or more members of the org
3) Alumna of a local that is absorbed by an org
4) Alumna of a colony who graduated before that colony was installed
5) Really, really outstanding member of the community with no Greek affiliation*

*I don't know how common this is across the board, I just know that half of the Phi Mu AI's that I know personally fall into this category. It's an admittedly small sample, though, so if others want to chime in on that, please do.

KSUViolet06 08-26-2011 03:03 PM

^^^That's pretty much it for us as well (based on every AI woman I've ever heard of within Tri Sigma.)

I have also known a small number of AI women who pledged Sigma, then the chapter closed before they were initiated. Or a few who pledged, had to leave school for a major reason, never initiated, then wished to become members later in life (like 10 years post college.)

But those are rarities. The above cases you listed = 99% of our AIs.

Hopefully women read these stories we've posted and understand that it's not something that anyone can just do because they didn't get a chance to be Greek in college.


alphafounder1 12-13-2011 08:31 AM

I know this is an older post, but I just thought I would add to it since I am an AI! I was just initiated into AOII as an AI. I was a founder of a local sorority, which was just absorbed into AOII. I was already helping the chapter with recruitment and other things and the alumnae were invited to join as AI members. Four of us were initiated with the chapter during their initiation and installation. I really look forward to continuing to help out with the chapter. I have gotten to know quite a few of the girls and they are awesome and remind me so much of the chapter when we started and it has been fun to see them go through this journey! It is such a great organization to be a part of and I am so glad that I was invited to join.

33girl 12-13-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alphafounder1 (Post 2111773)
I know this is an older post, but I just thought I would add to it since I am an AI! I was just initiated into AOII as an AI. I was a founder of a local sorority, which was just absorbed into AOII. I was already helping the chapter with recruitment and other things and the alumnae were invited to join as AI members. Four of us were initiated with the chapter during their initiation and installation. I really look forward to continuing to help out with the chapter. I have gotten to know quite a few of the girls and they are awesome and remind me so much of the chapter when we started and it has been fun to see them go through this journey! It is such a great organization to be a part of and I am so glad that I was invited to join.

This isn't really the situation that the OP was saying she didn't get. You had an obvious tie to the chapter and the school. The OP is talking about women who AI into an org and didn't have any previous association with it.

alphafounder1 12-13-2011 02:54 PM

33girl...I know that is not the situation she was talking about, but I just wanted to put in my experience. When I looked for AI posts, this was the first one that pops up and a couple other people mentioned different situations which people become AI's so I just thought I would add it. :)

Letizia 11-12-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gpb1874 (Post 1845951)
I'm an AI and was initiated almost 9 years ago. I did not join to re-live my college years or to attend collegiate type socials or b/c I didn't have friends in college. Sororities did not exist on my campus when I was there. One of my co-workers is an alumna and we started talking about GPB one day - what it was all about, what alumnae did, what she gets out of it now, stuff like that.

I did some research to learn more about the sorority (didn't know at the time I could join) and we talked more about it and I found that the values and mission of the sorority were very similar to mine. I told my friend that it seemed like a great organization and something that I thought would be nice to be a part of, thinking that would never happen. That's when she told me about AI.

I attended some alumnae gatherings and met them and they ranged in age from about 10 years older than me to 50 years older (I was 24 at the time). They were such a fun and nice bunch of women to be around. They didn't care that I was younger and that they could be my mom or grandma. We got along and enjoyed being around each other.

It did not matter that I did not have a collegiate experience to relate to their's. We had families, hobbies and other things that we could talk about. Alumnae life does not exist solely to talk about what you did in college.

Why is AI beneficial? To bring women into the sisterhood that share the same ideals and values of the organization and are willing to advance it's mission in whatever way she is able to (advisor, philanthropy work, being a great sister). It's pretty much the same reason as collegiates recruit members, but doing those things with other alumnae and often on different levels. Not every woman who has the potential to be a great sister had the opportunity to start that journey in college, so why look down upon them if they are truly a good fit for the organization?

I do agree that AI is not a substitute for not getting a bid in college and it is not for everyone. The intent of the PAI must be determined before considering her for membership.

I had a very similar experience before becoming an AI nearly 13 years ago.


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