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Munchkin03 06-30-2009 04:15 PM

Oh, the ironing.

knight_shadow 06-30-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1821493)
Oh, the ironing.

LOL

ETA: Here ya go, MC

http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/w...-centurion.jpg

ETA Again: Oh. I guess madmax got nervous by our thug mentality. He deleted his post.

naraht 06-30-2009 04:32 PM

Does the guy on the card count as being colored?

(And every time I get refered to as white, I just ask myself, would any bride get married in a dress the color of my skin?)

knight_shadow 06-30-2009 04:36 PM

I think the guy on the card should be referred to as caramel, the new term for 2009.

Anyone who doesn't comply is racist.

Munchkin03 06-30-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1821342)
A year or so after his second wife died (2003), he started dating one of his wife's caregivers, an African-american woman now in her late 50's. While my neighbor broke it off about a year after he started, it was because he didn't want to be a burden to her if his health failed and they are still friends.

So, he had a "colored" girlfriend? I wonder what he called her!

Shellfish 06-30-2009 04:57 PM

A friend of mine used to say, back in the '80s, that her grandmother preferred being called colored. She must have been about 80 then. I reckon she could choose how she wanted to be referred to.

I have one little drop and like to use the term octoroon, but I think that it's not preferred. It needs to be reclaimed.

PM_Mama00 06-30-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1821372)
I have a co-worker who prefers to be referred to as a "woman of color" than as an African American.

I always wonder about those African Americans who have no family ties to Africa? I mean I guess back down the line it's possible, but I seriously wonder and I'm not being stupid. I've heard of black people who didn't like being referred to as African American because they weren't from Africa. Are black people from Canada referred to as African Canadian? This is an honest question.

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821476)
I hate cracka @ss crackas named madmax.

How's that?

Please don't use that word. Madmax is a huge dumbass but you using the word "cracka" as a derogatory word towards a white person doesn't make you any better.

DaemonSeid 06-30-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1821530)


Please don't use that word. Madmax is a huge dumbass but you using the word "cracka" as a derogatory word towards a white person doesn't make you any better.

HAHAHAHA.....wow!!!


You may want to stay out of this one....

remember this:

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1761850)
I do too. Because why is it necessary to wear a shirt, in Arabic that many people cannot understand, that says "We will not be silent". Who is "we" and why won't you "be silent"? What is the silence about? That shit just makes people nervous and I'm sorry, call me racist but if I was at an airport and saw someone, whatever they look like Arab or not, wearing this shirt I'd be nervous.


I.A.S.K. 06-30-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1821530)
I always wonder about those African Americans who have no family ties to Africa? I mean I guess back down the line it's possible, but I seriously wonder and I'm not being stupid. I've heard of black people who didn't like being referred to as African American because they weren't from Africa. Are black people from Canada referred to as African Canadian? This is an honest question.

Please don't use that word. Madmax is a huge dumbass but you using the word "cracka" as a derogatory word towards a white person doesn't make you any better.

Is this the joke of the day?
Yet, I think you might actually be serious. Are you?

DaemonSeid 06-30-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1821541)
Is this the joke of the day?
Yet, I think you might actually be serious. Are you?

well she said she wasn't being stupid.....so....uuuh...

I.A.S.K. 06-30-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821542)
well she said she wasn't being stupid.....so....uuuh...

Well, she should have said that she didn't THINK she was being stupid.

DaemonSeid 06-30-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1821544)
Well, she should have said that she didn't THINK

Fixed.

DrPhil 06-30-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1821429)
Aw c'mon. Some of us have figured that one out without having to have it explained to us. :p:D

That much is obvious. ;) The whites who haven't are still white.

DrPhil 06-30-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821438)
Does that apply to the blacks that came up with the name NAACP?
Were they blacks or idiots?

You're an idiot.

SydneyK 06-30-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1821549)
The whites who haven't are still white.

But the ones who have, aren't? :p;)
Sorry, couldn't resist.

naraht 06-30-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1821502)
So, he had a "colored" girlfriend? I wonder what he called her!

She was actually OK with being called colored, but her kids were not...

rhoyaltempest 07-01-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821389)
It isn't insulting. Is the NAACP insulting? Who came up with the name National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People?

Are you Black? If not, then how can you say what is or should be insulting to a person of a different race? And for your information, back then Blacks in the South had come to accept the term "Colored" but today this isn't the case especially up North for most. I am definitely insulted when called or referred to by that term and that is my personal entitlement. As for the NAACP, I'm sure they discussed at some point changing the name since it doesn't reflect the present day but probably decided against it because it has become a historical brand known all over the world.

rhoyaltempest 07-01-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shellfish (Post 1821514)
A friend of mine used to say, back in the '80s, that her grandmother preferred being called colored. She must have been about 80 then. I reckon she could choose how she wanted to be referred to.

I have one little drop and like to use the term octoroon, but I think that it's not preferred. It needs to be reclaimed.

Why would you want to reclaim racist language? Terms like this were created by a racist society that sought to classify mixed slaves by the amount of white they had in them and therefore to access their value as human beings. Mulatto for example is derived from the word "mule" and a mule is the offspring of a female horse and a male donkey. In other words, half and half....as in half black and half white. I think most people don't use such language because they know the history behind it. So let's not reclaim it.

christiangirl 07-01-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1821343)
i feel like, at 83, "colored" is what was used growing up. i mean, "colored" is probably better than other terms he heard coming up.

if someone called me colored... they would get the blankest stare. its up there with calling an Asian "oriental."

Ditto.
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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821784)
Are you Black? If not, then how can you say what is or should be insulting to a person of a different race?

Bingo.

I just came from a final, so if this doesn't make sense, oh well, my brain is fried.

DISCLAIMER: Why even start the thread? We all know the answer will be "personal preference" after several pages of squabbling even though people probably said it on the first page. That's if it doesn't become a classic GC train wreck first.

Anywho, I think it's determined by region and time period. What names were okay decades ago may not be okay now except for with the people who formed their racial identities decades ago. Someone called me colored and my reaction made her never say it to me again and I bet she hesitates to use it with someone else. I don't mind being called "Black" but that word was used negatively toward my sister growing up (other kids kept comparing her to a crayon or something stupid like that), so she teaches her son that he is not "Black," he is "Brown." You get all kinds and it varies. Some people like "Caramel," but a girl in college said she feels dehumanized when she is reduced to a food comparison. :rolleyes: I know a girl who doesn't like being labeled so, when asked what she prefers to be called, she will say "my name" and leave it there. You will never get a straight answer on this one.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 11:15 AM

I don't think it's regional. Regardless of the region, you are more likely to find people who find "colored" to be undesirable than not.

christiangirl 07-01-2009 11:18 AM

^^^I agree with the more undesirable than not across the board, but I feel like I've heard "colored" more in the South than anywhere else. The majority still doesn't like it, but the South seems to lose the battle by a smaller margin IMO.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 11:28 AM

Hearing it in the South more than other regions doesn't mean anything beyond the history of the term.

Most Blacks in the South prefer not to be called "colored." This includes many elderly Blacks--the ones who know they can now look whites in the eyes, that is.

sdeason1 07-01-2009 01:31 PM

times and ages have changed. people depending on age have different thoughts and upbringing. some today make a bigger problem out of it than should be.

VUG1 07-01-2009 02:02 PM

IMO, Colored is far more politically correct, I've called all of my Colored friends, African American, or Afro American, and they hated it, they thought I was taunting them.

AOII_LB93 07-01-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821896)
Who is the dumbass now?

Consensus of this thread? Still you.

madmax 07-01-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821784)
Are you Black? If not, then how can you say what is or should be insulting to a person of a different race? .

Do you speak for your entire race?

If so then what is the new politically correct term for the next 100 years? I would like to know since you change the term every couple of years and I don't want to step on any toes when YOU change the term and forget to send the rest of the planet the memo on the new term.

BabyPiNK_FL 07-01-2009 02:21 PM

I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)

I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.

VUG1 07-01-2009 02:32 PM

Um..sorry, but madmax, where do you come off to calling people a dumb*ss? I'm sure your parents would be ashamed, as well as God.

RU OX Alum 07-01-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1821343)
i feel like, at 83, "colored" is what was used growing up. i mean, "colored" is probably better than other terms he heard coming up.

if someone called me colored... they would get the blankest stare. its up there with calling an Asian "oriental."

that's what they're called in Europe. "Asian" over there refers to some one from central part of Asia.

/hijack

madmax 07-01-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VUG1 (Post 1821911)
Um..sorry, but madmax, where do you come off to calling people a dumb*ss? I'm sure your parents would be ashamed, as well as God.



Are you really that stupid? Go back and read PM Mama's post.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821896)
Do you still live in Detroit and work at a self storage center?


Who is the dumbass now?


PS. In case you don't remember you have been in more of your share of these threads.

^^^ Jackassery FTW!


What makes this even more hilarious is that in her own off handed way, she actually was trying to stick up for you, you dope.

madmax 07-01-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1821908)
I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)

I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.



So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?

starang21 07-01-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821917)
Why bother trying to be pc?

for a social experiment, use the word colored in a predominantly black neighborhood. you might get the answer you're looking for.

BabyPiNK_FL 07-01-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821917)
So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?

Sweetie, not all black people are Af.-Am. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it. I know it's difficult because you maybe can't tell the difference and don't understand why it's important for all people to be able to identify themselves as they see fit. However, that's what makes us unique and makes us people. It's true of everyone on this earth. At the end of the day we are not a collective. We self-define. There is no one-size-fits-all.

madmax 07-01-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821915)
^^^ Jackassery FTW!


What makes this even more hilarious is that in her own off handed way, she actually was trying to stick up for you, you dope.



I doubt it.


PS. Are you still going to rallies for murderers like Mumia?

minDyG 07-01-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821917)
So far we have some black people that prefer the term African American and some that do not. We also have some that don't mind the term colored and others that get all uppity if they hear the term colored. Why bother trying to be pc?

There are people in the world who do not have a sense of smell, and some who do. Let us begin using madmax's logic and not bother trying to conceal our flatulence.

madmax 07-01-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1821922)
Sweetie, not all black people are Af.-Am. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it. I know it's difficult because you maybe can't tell the difference and don't understand why it's important for all people to be able to identify themselves as they see fit. However, that's what makes us unique and makes us people. It's true of everyone on this earth. At the end of the day we are not a collective. We self-define. There is no one-size-fits-all.


No chit. I didn't flunk the firefighters exam.

knight_shadow 07-01-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1821921)
for a social experiment, use the word colored in a predominantly black neighborhood. you might get the answer you're looking for.

Yep.

madmax's e-courage is hilarious.

knight_shadow 07-01-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1821938)
Since we don't know him/her, we don't know what he/she would do.

Madmax could be an 80 yo woman with time on her hands. :p Either case, why does GC keep acknowledging madmax's existence? It's no longer shocking or unpredictable.

Eh, something to do :shrug:

I'd rather read this garbage than a brutally honest recruitment thread :o

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1821942)
Eh, something to do :shrug:

I'd rather read this garbage than a brutally honest recruitment thread :o

If you are that bored, go play tetris.


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