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knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774824)
I'm open to hearing answers, but those that I've got earlier, and many I have recieved are not acceptable ones. I'm a open minded person, so open minded that I'm willing to observe greekchat.com users opinions of universities with top greek systems.

If our answers are unacceptable to you, find another source.

But what would fraternity and sorority members know about fraternities and sororities? :rolleyes:

migreek 02-03-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme (Post 1774752)
FYP. :D

Seriously, if you are even considering a career in the medical field, you'd best put academics 100% first.

Also, you seem to be fairly confident that your desired future is 100% for sure. Both becoming Greek and a doctor are (without a doubt) NOT FOR SURE. You may not recieve an invitation to join any chapter, especially your top choice.

And medical school admissions processes speak for themselves.....

Another post assuming I'm putting greek first before academics.
As much as you may be trying to poke into my personal life, I know well enough what to consider when selecting universities. Based off universities that I prefer, I was only seeking to hear other opinions ( if it was brought up, and thought it was just interesting to hear others open mind opinion) about my own personal selected universities if mention.
I have a list of universities I'm looking at already, and top choices as well...

I'm not really going to keep explaining myself, from all the recent questions I got back it has most likely already been answered in a previous post of mines on this thread.
This thread was intended for you ( as greekchat.com users) to answer the question. If that can be done, and if all you have an urge to do is critize etc... then again your comment isn't welcome here.

migreek 02-03-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774825)
If our answers are unacceptable to you, find another source.

But what would fraternity and sorority members know about fraternities and sororities? :rolleyes:

Because you and all the recent rude posters do not make up the whole greekchat.com community ( as much as you would like). Including that I have got a few decent responds, and maybe more to come.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774828)
Because you and all the recent rude posters do not make up the whole greekchat.com community ( as much as you would like). Including that I have got a few decent responds, and maybe more to come.

I like how you're an expert on everything after your 2 days on GC.

People aren't rude unless you give them a reason to be. If you ask for advice just to complain about the answers given, you'll get the same response.

migreek 02-03-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774830)
I like how you're an expert on everything after your 2 days on GC.

People aren't rude unless you give them a reason to be. If you ask for advice just to complain about the answers given, you'll get the same response.

Well if you even read your recent post, you haven't even answerd my question from the start ( and doubt that you tried to ).

Though, this is a decent size greekchat.com community online. With the few decent responds I got, maybe more will come.

agzg 02-03-2009 11:33 PM

Wtf is with the greekchat.com constantly?

TEITY? Have you finally controlled your obsession with smilies?

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774835)
Well if you even read your recent post, you haven't even answerd my question from the start ( and doubt that you tried to ).

Though, this is a decent size greekchat.com community online. With the few decent responds I got, maybe more will come.

I didn't answer because 1) you were directed to other threads with the same topic and 2) it doesn't matter what "rank" a certain school is. It's sad to base your college choice on how high up the Greek ladder it is.

You claim that we're assuming that this is all you're concerned about, but you haven't given us reason to think otherwise. Plus, your lax spelling and grammar skills prove that academics are not high on your list of priorities.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1774840)
Wtf is with the greekchat.com constantly?

TEITY? Have you finally controlled your obsession with smilies?

Every time I see TEITY, I will think about Sen's comment about "women having two of them" LOL

migreek 02-03-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1774840)
Wtf is with the greekchat.com constantly?

TEITY? Have you finally controlled your obsession with smilies?

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774844)
I didn't answer because 1) you were directed to other threads with the same topic and 2) it doesn't matter what "rank" a certain school is. It's sad to base your college choice on how high up the Greek ladder it is.

You claim that we're assuming that this is all you're concerned about, but you haven't given us reason to think otherwise. Plus, your lax spelling and grammar skills prove that academics are not high on your list of priorities.

Knight Shadow most that I would say have already been said to another user.

I'm not basing my college on how high the greek system is, though that's your opinion, and could care less what you may think.

I'm not surprise my spelling have been lax and grammer skills, and reason have been explained on other threads.

It's obvious I'm looking for other comments then the ones you and other recent users have been posting.

agzg 02-03-2009 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774845)
Every time I see TEITY, I will think about Sen's comment about "women having two of them" LOL

LOL!

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774851)
Knight Shadow most that I would say have already been said to another user.

I'm not basing my college on how high the greek system is, though that's your opinion, and could care less what you may think.

I'm not surprise my spelling have been lax and grammer skills, and reason have been explained on other threads.

It's obvious I'm looking for other comments then the ones you and other recent users have been posting.

You claimed that you wanted the rankings so you could make an educated decision when picking a college. Rankings don't matter. Period.

It is surprising that your spelling and grammar are terrible, considering you've tried to make yourself into the poster-child for academics.

If we continue to tell you the same thing, there are probably no other comments. And again, if you don't like the answers you're being given, find another source.

agzg 02-03-2009 11:47 PM

Pittsburg State has the best greek system. Obviously.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1774859)
Pittsburg State has the best greek system. Obviously.

I almost typed out a long response to this, but then remembered who is from Pittsburg State.

LOL

agzg 02-03-2009 11:49 PM

Long responses are lost to the "Pittsburg State" defense.

You are powerless against my sharp wit. :p

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:50 PM

*Bows Down*

migreek 02-03-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774856)
You claimed that you wanted the rankings so you could make an educated decision when picking a college. Rankings don't matter. Period.

It is surprising that your spelling and grammar are terrible, considering you've tried to make yourself into the poster-child for academics.

If we continue to tell you the same thing, there are probably no other comments. And again, if you don't like the answers you're being given, find another source.

I have more than one source for college information, though when speaking of greek systems this is one of the top ones.

I never claimed to pick a college base off greek system. Though I did say I have my list of top choices already... and other universities I'm looking at.... from there I was seeking users opinions of their greek system. That would only be if it was mention in a list base off their opinion. From lists that was suppose to be given... I would have observed them all, compared them to professional ranking, and from there with my already top choices... hopefully it would help me observe their greek systems.

I'm not 100% sure if I'll even join a fraternity, but leaning towards one ( if to join one) it would be important to know these certain universities ( that I know of) greek system... I already know they are high reguarded in academics etc.... no need for users to tell me how they are, and I would most likely go to collegeconfidential.com for such.

SAEalumnus 02-03-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774863)
I'm not 100% sure if I'll even join a fraternity, but leaning towards one ( if to join one) it would be important to know these certain universities ( that I know of) greek system... I already know they are high reguarded in academics etc.... no need for users to tell me how they are, and I would most likely go to collegeconfidential.com for such.

Just a quick thought... we always reminded our pledges (and actives too) that you're in college for an education first, and that everything else is secondary. This being the case, should a university's Greek system really matter that much? Isn't it more important to first pick a university that will prepare you for the career you want, then choose your best fit among the fraternities there? Just my $0.02.

migreek 02-03-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1774870)
Just a quick thought... we always reminded our pledges (and actives too) that you're in college for an education first, and that everything else is secondary. This being the case, should a university's Greek system really matter that much? Isn't it more important to first pick a university that will prepare you for the career you want, then choose your best fit among the fraternities there? Just my $0.02.

Right, college education is first. I've long ( since high school)have made my list of universities completely based off college education... and I know what universities I'm looking at. Though I'm just looking for users opinions on universities greek system.
My question that I asked does not need to say
Example: What school has these academics, location etc... and oh yeah greek system....
I know that information already, I just don't know about certain schools I've listed greek system. I find these schools interesting, would like to look more into them, and one of their areas I'm looking more into is their greek system.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774863)
I have more than one source for college information, though when speaking of greek systems this is one of the top ones.

I never claimed to pick a college base off greek system. Though I did say I have my list of top choices already... and other universities I'm looking at.... from there I was seeking users opinions of their greek system. That would only be if it was mention in a list base off their opinion. From lists that was suppose to be given... I would have observed them all, compared them to professional ranking, and from there with my already top choices... hopefully it would help me observe their greek systems.

I'm not 100% sure if I'll even join a fraternity, but leaning towards one ( if to join one) it would be important to know these certain universities ( that I know of) greek system... I already know they are high reguarded in academics etc.... no need for users to tell me how they are, and I would most likely go to collegeconfidential.com for such.

Getting lists from internet usernames does not help you "observe" a Greek system. Visiting with and talking to people in real life (as many posters have told you) helps you observe.

You are focusing on the wrong things at this point (as many posters have told you). You need to worry about graduating high school and staying involved -- and if your typing is any indication of your abilities, you need to log off GC right now.

Talking in circles will not make me back off.

agzg 02-04-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774875)
Right, college education is first. I've long ( since high school)have made my list of universities completely based off college education... and I know what universities I'm looking at. Though I'm just looking for users opinions on universities greek system.
My question that I asked does not need to say
Example: What school has these academics, location etc... and oh yeah greek system....
I know that information already, I just don't know about certain schools I've listed greek system. I find these schools interesting, would like to look more into them, and one of their areas I'm looking more into is their greek system.

Did anyone else notice this?

Srsly, TEITY? Is all of HPRL coming back to haunt us?

knight_shadow 02-04-2009 12:03 AM

^^^ I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he meant since he got to high school (freshman year). I'm bored and want to keep this going ;)

migreek 02-04-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774876)
Getting lists from internet usernames does not help you "observe" a Greek system. Visiting with and talking to people in real life (as many posters have told you) helps you observe.

You are focusing on the wrong things at this point (as many posters have told you). You need to worry about graduating high school and staying involved -- and if your typing is any indication of your abilities, you need to log off GC right now.

Talking in circles will not make me back off.

It's obvious that we are two different people.

Getting a list from internet does help me observe, just like surveys help people observe.
I've talked to people in real life about greek system, I'm just also talking about it online.
I'm not focusing on anything wrong at this point, and no need to explain to you my personal life... and think it's ridiculous that just because I've asked such a question I'm now not focusing on graudating, future job etc...

nittanyalum 02-04-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1774840)
TEITY? Have you finally controlled your obsession with smilies?

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1774859)
Pittsburg State has the best greek system. Obviously.

*gasp* GOOD CALL, sister!
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774876)
Talking in circles will not make me back off.

LOL. GET 'IM, KS!!! :p

knight_shadow 02-04-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774884)
It's obvious that we are two different people.

ORLY?

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Getting a list from internet does help me observe, just like surveys help people observe.
I've talked to people in real life about greek system, I'm just also talking about it online.
I'm not focusing on anything wrong at this point, and no need to explain to you my personal life... and think it's ridiculous that just because I've asked such a question I'm now not focusing on graudating, future job etc...
I guess those of us who have graduated from high school, joined Greek organizations, and graduated from college have no idea what we're talking about. Disregard everything we've said. We are making up answers as we go along.

migreek 02-04-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774876)
Getting lists from internet usernames does not help you "observe" a Greek system. Visiting with and talking to people in real life (as many posters have told you) helps you observe.

You are focusing on the wrong things at this point (as many posters have told you). You need to worry about graduating high school and staying involved -- and if your typing is any indication of your abilities, you need to log off GC right now.

Talking in circles will not make me back off.

With your time online it seems more like you ( if your a college student, or what you may claim ) may not be focusing on the right things as you should... such as schooling and not online social chats that I wouldn't have as much time to do in college as you yourself do and other rude posters.

Actually have stayed on this site a little longer than planned, and now need to sign offline.

Maybe I can read more decent answers tomorrow.

knight_shadow 02-04-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1774886)
LOL. GET 'IM, KS!!! :p

LOL

knight_shadow 02-04-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774891)
With your time online it seems more like you ( if your a college student ) may not be focusing on the right things as you should... such as schooling and not online social chats that I wouldn't have as much time to do in college as you yourself do and other rude posters.

Actually have stayed on this site a little longer than planned, and now need to sign offline.

Maybe I can read more decent answers tomorrow.

Quoting my post again? Guess you weren't finished.

Actually, I've graduated, kiddo. Nice try.

Again, I like how you, in your infinite knowledge, already realize how college and the Greek system works, yet you're still asking us for advice.

AOEforme 02-04-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774815)
^^^ Wisconsin? That made me throw up in my mouth a little bit...





I kid, I kid :D

Sorry, I just had to get rid of that blemish on my screen. Ew. Michigan.
:p

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774826)
Another post assuming I'm putting greek first before academics.
As much as you may be trying to poke into my personal life, I know well enough what to consider when selecting universities. Based off universities that I prefer, I was only seeking to hear other opinions ( if it was brought up, and thought it was just interesting to hear others open mind opinion) about my own personal selected universities if mention.
I have a list of universities I'm looking at already, and top choices as well...

I'm not really going to keep explaining myself, from all the recent questions I got back it has most likely already been answered in a previous post of mines on this thread.
This thread was intended for you ( as greekchat.com users) to answer the question. If that can be done, and if all you have an urge to do is critize etc... then again your comment isn't welcome here.

I agree with KS in that your posts leave the appearance of someone who doesn't really care about academics.

Plus, people here aren't big fans of ranking Greek Systems, chapters at a school, etc.

I also think you would have gotten a much different response (Note: with the exact same answers) if you had been more polite (Exhibit A: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=101788 ).


And P.S. The reason we all assume you care MOST about Greek Life in a potential college: your very own posts have led us to this conclusion. It wasn't an outright assumption.

lucgreek 02-04-2009 02:41 AM

5 pages :eek:

Who took the last can of troll-be-gone? I just can't believe this kid is for real.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2009 05:22 AM

I wanted to be a doctor, too, ever since I was little. When I went to college I initially majored in pre-med and attended pre-med club meetings and picked my extracurriculars based on what would look good on my med school application.

The year I left college (2002) the national average for people getting into med school was 34% That means 66% of the kids that worked super hard and took all the hard classes and volunteered and played on the soccer team applied but didn't get in.

Unless you're set to graduate at the very top of your class, you might have trouble in college maintaining the kinds of grades you need if you're going to apply to med school.

Being in a fraternity or sorority AND getting into med school aren't impossible (we have lots of doctors on this forum to prove it!) but you're not going to have time for greek life if you're really dedicated to being a doctor and maintaining the highest possible grades. Especially if you're the kind of person (like me) who has to actually WORK for their grades - last minute cramming, all nighters, some tests where you don't do so hot.

Kansas City 02-04-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774863)
I never claimed to pick a college base off greek system. Though I did say I have my list of top choices already... and other universities I'm looking at.... from there I was seeking users opinions of their greek system.

Here's a thought and assuming that you really do seek information about Greek life at midwestern colleges/universities, perhaps you should be more specific for us GCers and ask for information about Greek life at 3-5 of the schools you are already considering? We cannot guess exactly what you are looking for as far as academics (aside from a pre-med program) nor have we a clue to your desired location or academic budget when it comes to a school. Perhaps you tell us where you are considering attending in 18 months and GC may be able to set you up with informed Greeks from those specific schools.

golfer11 02-04-2009 10:38 AM

Can we got over stuipid drama and ctually reply tot he post. I have only seen to or three posts that actually gave an answer. If you looking for great schools with great greek systems: Ole Miss, Alabama, UGA, Texas, SMU, Auburn, Florida State. You could make arguements for many more but the thing is they are all in the south. Greek life in the South is dfferent than anywhere else. If you get the chance to check out any of the schools listed please do and good luck!

PeppyGPhiB 02-04-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas City (Post 1775134)
Here's a thought and assuming that you really do seek information about Greek life at midwestern colleges/universities, perhaps you should be more specific for us GCers and ask for information about Greek life at 3-5 of the schools you are already considering? We cannot guess exactly what you are looking for as far as academics (aside from a pre-med program) nor have we a clue to your desired location or academic budget when it comes to a school. Perhaps you tell us where you are considering attending in 18 months and GC may be able to set you up with informed Greeks from those specific schools.

Thank you - this is what I was thinking. OP, give us the list of schools you're considering for academic reasons and we'll tell you what we think of their greek systems, if they have one.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1775261)
OP, give us the list of schools you're considering for academic reasons and we'll tell you what we think of their greek systems, if they have one.

When she says "we'll tell you what we think" she does NOT mean "we'll rank them."

srmom 02-04-2009 05:28 PM

Let me guess Golfer - you go to U of Alabama...:cool:

MUSigKap06 02-04-2009 06:28 PM

This is just my thought... but from what I understand, you have a fairly good idea of what schools you are considering applying to. So instead of posting on GC a question that's just going to give you a bunch of related/ not-so-related answers... why don't you just visit these schools and go see what their Greek community is like there? From experience, every campus has a little bit of a different feel even though they might share the same fraternity/ sorority and you're never really going to know what's right for you until you test out the waters yourself.

I really don't see the purpose of trying to get opinions on here cuz you KNOW you'll just get ripped apart or get very biased responses.


Kids these days... ya'll need to experience things the old fashioned way instead of trying to do it through the internet. (And I'm 24yrs old, so that statement totally made me sound older than I really am... haha)

idk... that's just my honest opinion. Don't hate.

KSUViolet06 02-04-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSigKap06 (Post 1775374)

I really don't see the purpose of trying to get opinions on here cuz you KNOW you'll just get ripped apart.


idk... that's just my honest opinion. Don't hate.

I'm going to go ahead and hate because I don't recall anyone ripping him apart.

In fact, I think the first few responses were quite helpful:

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774529)

And this:

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774543)
Ok. I think Princeton Review & US News put out rankings every year. Check those out.

Yes, we know there are rankings, but the opnions of those rankings never really change.

Somebody usually says "Oh cool, my school is on there!"

Then somebody else says "These people have NO CLUE what they're talking about, ________ University Greek system is clearly stronger than ________."

Then somebody points out that the rankings and methodologies used to create them are subjective.

And it goes around and around.


I believe he started this whole thing when he kept insisting on us posting our opiniosn, which we've said a MILLION times are totally subjective and not the best way to learn about Greek systems.

I think we're smart enough to know that the best way to learn about a school's Greek system is to VISIT. But he apparently doesn't know that.



Unregistered- 02-04-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSigKap06 (Post 1775374)



Kids these days... ya'll need to experience things the old fashioned way instead of trying to do it through the internet. (And I'm 24yrs old, so that statement totally made me sound older than I really am... haha)

The internets make it a whole lot easier for kids these days. When I was researching colleges 13-14 years ago, my bedroom closet was filled with college viewbooks I picked up at the college fair. I remember having to fill out a postcard and waiting 6-8 weeks for some of them to come.

knight_shadow 02-04-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSigKap06 (Post 1775374)
This is just my thought... but from what I understand, you have a fairly good idea of what schools you are considering applying to. So instead of posting on GC a question that's just going to give you a bunch of related/ not-so-related answers... why don't you just visit these schools and go see what their Greek community is like there? From experience, every campus has a little bit of a different feel even though they might share the same fraternity/ sorority and you're never really going to know what's right for you until you test out the waters yourself.

I really don't see the purpose of trying to get opinions on here cuz you KNOW you'll just get ripped apart or get very biased responses.


Kids these days... ya'll need to experience things the old fashioned way instead of trying to do it through the internet. (And I'm 24yrs old, so that statement totally made me sound older than I really am... haha)

idk... that's just my honest opinion. Don't hate.

Several posters gave him the same information you just posted. He claimed it was "unacceptable" to him.

KSUViolet06 02-04-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1775376)
The internets make it a whole lot easier for kids these days. When I was researching colleges 13-14 years ago, my bedroom closet was filled with college viewbooks I picked up at the college fair. I remember having to fill out a postcard and waiting 6-8 weeks for some of them to come.

Yep.

And you know how I had to find out about sororities? By actually meeting people in them. I didn't discover GC until right before COB so I couldn't very well go to it for rush advice.


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