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DrPhil 01-22-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768920)
Explain how this is a play on words- that is ridiculous. He also shouted it louder than the rest of his lines.

Uh...what are you debating me about?

pinkies up 01-22-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768892)
Usually when one parents is one race, and the other parent is another race, it's called Bi-racial. Would you like me to look that up for you?

I am biracial, half-white, etc.. but, I would look like a fool walking around claiming white. No matter what, I will be looked at as a black woman. (and PROUD of it, I might add...)

PhiGam 01-22-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768923)
Wait... are you saying the rappers speak in the literal?

Hmmmm........I guess they call it word play for nothing.

I'm aware that song and rap lyrics aren't literal and don't see how that applies here.

PhiGam 01-22-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768924)
Uh...what are you debating me about?

The lyrics being racist or not?

DrPhil 01-22-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768928)
I'm aware that song and rap lyrics aren't literal and don't see how that applies here.

LOL...so you see how rap is a word play.

White lies = seemingly harmless lies with big ramifications
white lies = the lies that a white dominated structure/white POTUS have been feeding the people

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768928)
I'm aware that song and rap lyrics aren't literal and don't see how that applies here.

Try some Nas.

Last Poets

Gil Scott Heron

then you may understand.

DrPhil 01-22-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768930)
The lyrics being racist or not?

Why are you debating me about that? LOL. You have a completely different concept of "racism" than I do.

I.A.S.K. 01-22-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768902)
"My president is black
infact he's half white
so even in the race
its mine he's half right
if you have a race its mine
you'll be all right
the president is black
but his house is all white
rosa parks sat so martin luther could walk
martin luter walked so Barack Obama could run
Barack Obama ran so ALL the children could fly
So Imma spread my wings
U can meet me in the sky
I already got my own clothes
aldready got my own shoes
I was hot before Barack
imagine what Im gone do
Hello ms America
hey pretty lady
red white & blue flag
wave for me baby
Never thought Id say this ish
Baby Im good
You can keep your Kush? (rhymes with Bush, idk what-poor quality)
I don't want no more Bush
No more war
No more Iraq
No more white lies
the president is Black"

These are the complete lyrics to his verse. If you dont get it I can try to expain.

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768937)
These are the complete lyrics to his verse. If you dont get it I can try to expain.

when you have to break down rap lyrics to someone.......hehe...

I cant complete that with a straight face...

DrPhil 01-22-2009 01:03 AM

Anyway, as catchy as that song is and as accurate as the sentiment is, all things are best in moderation.

The President is black. We get it.

PhiGam 01-22-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768942)
Anyway, as catchy as that song is and as accurate as the sentiment is, all things are best in moderation.

The President is black. We get it.

I'm not counting on any sort of moderation.

PM_Mama00 01-22-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768921)
Until you type something dumb.

That's our good ol Chaos! Welcome back!

DrPhil 01-22-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768948)
I'm not counting on any sort of moderation.

Okay.

Now what? :)

I.A.S.K. 01-22-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768951)
Okay.

Now what? :)

Now, those who don't get it get over it and those of us who do get it and enjoy it get on with it.

Yay!

DrPhil 01-22-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768953)
Now, those who don't get it get over it and those of us who do get it and enjoy it get on with it.

Yay!

I don't fit in either category.

Yay!

I.A.S.K. 01-22-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768955)
I don't fit in either category.

Yay!

^ Just had to be the outcast!
So, I guess that you just get busy (making crab alfredo to send to me). LOL!

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:27 AM

pg...so...ummm are there any more rap lyrics you saw on Oreally that bother you that you want to discuss?

PiKA2001 01-22-2009 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768967)
pg...so...ummm are there any more rap lyrics you saw on Oreally that bother you that you want to discuss?

lolli lolli lolli lolli let me see you pop that body..

What does it mean????

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1768971)
lolli lolli lolli lolli let me see you pop that body..

What does it mean????

wow

I.A.S.K. 01-22-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1768971)
lolli lolli lolli lolli let me see you pop that body..

What does it mean????

I thought DS said Rap lyrics?

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768974)
I thought DS sadi Rap lyrics?

exactly.

siigh....you know some people just say shit because they have to fit in too.

g'nite I.A.S.K.

Take care

PiKA2001 01-22-2009 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768973)
wow

wowwee indeed

PiKA2001 01-22-2009 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768975)
.

siigh....you know some people just say shit because they have to fit in too.

No, I don't talk shit to fit in. I talk shit to talk shit.

ETA: You guys need to take some valium or something and relax

PhiGam 01-22-2009 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1768971)
lolli lolli lolli lolli let me see you pop that body..

What does it mean????

:D

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1768977)
No, I don't talk shit to fit in. I talk shit to talk shit.

at least you admit to your own short comings.
have a good one.

Senusret I 01-22-2009 09:14 AM

All this happened while I was watching Family Guy and Robot Chicken???

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1769051)
All this happened while I was watching Family Guy and Robot Chicken???

Re runs at that....glad he waited til Lost went off.

DrPhil 01-22-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768962)
^ Just had to be the outcast!
So, I guess that you just get busy (making crab alfredo to send to me). LOL!

Is it nonparishable enough? :eek:

I.A.S.K. 01-22-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1769057)
Is it nonparishable enough? :eek:

Is what NP enough? The crab alfredo? Yup. You can freeze it and ship it on dry ice or you can ship it the same day on blue ice. Either way is just fine. It wont spoil. I promise.

KSig RC 01-22-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768909)
Hooked on Phonix huh?

Get some Hooked on Spelling...

entundra....

wow

entendre

You got free time on ur hands...work it out.

You're really going to ride someone's spelling? In the same post as "ur"? OK.

Also - it's clearly intended to be read as both "[little] white lies" and "lies from whites" and I can't imagine that's disputable. I don't think that is a particularly 'racist' thought - after all, a black guy thinking whites have lied to him isn't exactly ground-breaking, and is probably (from a perception standpoint) fairly true, even though a massive number of those lies have come from his side of the political aisle.

KSig RC 01-22-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1768971)
lolli lolli lolli lolli let me see you pop that body..

What does it mean????

It's a hack reference to the Lil Wayne song, because pop music is a copycat sport right now.

Ironically, the Lil Wayne track (which is actually rap, unlike the one you're referring to) uses the lollipop metaphor to make a point about selling out to get a number one hit, although it also uses it to make, well, sex references. This isn't exactly Chaucer, but it's not that hard if you really try either.

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1769160)
You're really going to ride someone's spelling? In the same post as "ur"? OK.

Also - it's clearly intended to be read as both "[little] white lies" and "lies from whites" and I can't imagine that's disputable. I don't think that is a particularly 'racist' thought - after all, a black guy thinking whites have lied to him isn't exactly ground-breaking, and is probably (from a perception standpoint) fairly true, even though a massive number of those lies have come from his side of the political aisle.

Come back down...I am sure u know that the 'ur' was intentional.

You are not that stupid so let's not insult each other like that.

Also, why are you trying to explain Jay-Z's lyrics to me?

I know what he meant...and yes, I agree, it's nothing new. The metaphoric wordplay has been around since before Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five....explain it to ur boy phigam, the original poster, who seems to be taken aback by 'racially charged' rap lyrics.

KSig RC 01-22-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1769163)
Come back down...I am sure u know that the 'ur' was intentional.

Seriously?

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1769163)
Also, why are you trying to explain Jay-Z's lyrics to me?

I know what he meant...and yes, I agree, it's nothing new. The metaphoric wordplay has been around since before Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five....explain it to ur boy phigam, the original poster, who seems to be taken aback by 'racially charged' rap lyrics.

Um, you're not the only person who can read the post- it was intended for, y'know, everyone. Also I'm pretty sure my "explanation" contradicts at least one of your earlier posts (in inference at the least) so you really need to be sure that you're agreeing with me here.

You need to get off this "metaphoric" kick - I'm not sure you're explaining it in a way that helps your cause in the slightest.

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1769169)
Seriously?



Um, you're not the only person who can read the post- it was intended for, y'know, everyone. Also I'm pretty sure my "explanation" contradicts at least one of your earlier posts (in inference at the least) so you really need to be sure that you're agreeing with me here.

You need to get off this "metaphoric" kick - I'm not sure you're explaining it in a way that helps your cause in the slightest.

You should have clarified that.

and I don't recall 'my cause' as you put it, requiring assistance.

KSig RC 01-22-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1769173)
and I don't recall 'my cause' as you put it, requiring assistance.

I'm pretty sure that any time a 5-page thread springs up in minutes, that's a clear indicator one side isn't "winning" or converting anyone. In that regard, I'd say you need assistance. You should thank DrPhil for trying to help you and IASK in spite of all odds.

DaemonSeid 01-22-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1769177)
I'm pretty sure that any time a 5-page thread springs up in minutes, that's a clear indicator one side isn't "winning" or converting anyone. In that regard, I'd say you need assistance. You should thank DrPhil for trying to help you and IASK in spite of all odds.

I didn't realize there was a 'contest' here.

What's the prize?

PiKA2001 01-22-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1769161)
It's a hack reference to the Lil Wayne song, because pop music is a copycat sport right now.

Ironically, the Lil Wayne track (which is actually rap, unlike the one you're referring to) uses the lollipop metaphor to make a point about selling out to get a number one hit, although it also uses it to make, well, sex references. This isn't exactly Chaucer, but it's not that hard if you really try either.

Yeah I know thanks a bunch. I used that line to express my displeasure at the recent posts on the news and politics forum. Well.. actually it was on the radio while I was typing but you get the drift. I know the difference between fake rap, three six mafia, and real rap, lady gaga.

KSig RC 01-22-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1769180)
Yeah I know thanks a bunch. I used that line to express my displeasure at the recent posts on the news and politics forum. Well.. actually it was on the radio while I was typing but you get the drift. I know the difference between fake rap, three six mafia, and real rap, lady gaga.

Awesome

DrPhil 01-22-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1769134)
Is what NP enough? The crab alfredo? Yup. You can freeze it and ship it on dry ice or you can ship it the same day on blue ice. Either way is just fine. It wont spoil. I promise.

That sounds gross so don't sue me if it becomes infected with something.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1769160)
Also - it's clearly intended to be read as both "[little] white lies" and "lies from whites" and I can't imagine that's disputable. I don't think that is a particularly 'racist' thought - after all, a black guy thinking whites have lied to him isn't exactly ground-breaking, and is probably (from a perception standpoint) fairly true, even though a massive number of those lies have come from his side of the political aisle.

Exactly.

The bolded is another reason why the lyric is dumb.

agzg 01-22-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1769180)
I know the difference between fake rap, three six mafia, and real rap, lady gaga.

*dead*


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