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KSUViolet06 01-01-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1760286)
Point. Set. Match.

What on earth would possess women to put picture after picture of themselves doing this with their babies on Facebook? It seems so personal (aside from your naked boob) to bond with your baby like that...do 140,000,000+ people really need to see?


Seriously! Most of the women I know who breastfeed don't WANT people to see their boobies when doing it, whether it's in a restaurant or elsewhere. They DEFINITELY don't want their boobies on the internet.

VandalSquirrel 01-01-2009 10:17 PM

I keep hearing Joe Francis over and over saying "It's natural, it's where babies feed!"

SWTXBelle 01-01-2009 10:31 PM

There are moms who, like me, breastfeed, and it's no big deal. Then, there is the breastfeeding CULT who make it the end all and be all of motherhood.

VandalSquirrel 01-01-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760307)
There are moms who, like me, breastfeed, and it's no big deal. Then, there is the breastfeeding CULT who make it the end all and be all of motherhood.

I can't stand women who make other women feel bad because they may be unable to phycially (or for other reasons) breast feed, financially unable to stay home (and make completely organic food), and get hell for using a disposable diaper instead of sewing their own.

Women who bring down other women like that are just miserable all around. if I am ever a mother I hope I never become that way, or am the victim or some self-righteous militant freak who is probably so worried about their kid that the kid ends up with all kinds of problems because of what they think is right and better than everyone else.

SWTXBelle 01-01-2009 10:41 PM

I've told the story elsewhere - when I was about a month away from delivering baby #2 I had a breast cancer scare. My oncologist and I came up with a plan - I'd breastfeed for 6 weeks, then wait another 6 before doing my testing. There was a La Leche League consultant who was a neighbor who was HORRIFIED that I would stop at 6 weeks. Much better, apparently, to have a dead mother who breastfed than a living one who fed her baby formula. :rolleyes: That's nuts.

eta - The baby, now 16, and I are both just fine.

Unregistered- 01-01-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760314)
I've told the story elsewhere - when I was about a month away from delivering baby #2 I had a breast cancer scare. My oncologist and I came up with a plan - I'd breastfeed for 6 weeks, then wait another 6 before doing my testing. There was a La Leche League consultant who was a neighbor who was HORRIFIED that I would stop at 6 weeks. Much better, apparently, to have a dead mother who breastfed than a living one who fed her baby formula. :rolleyes: That's nuts.

eta - The baby, now 16, and I are both just fine.

Every time I hear about the La Leakies, I think about you and your story, SWTXBelle. I still can't believe that happened to you.

ISUKappa 01-01-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1760312)
I can't stand women who make other women feel bad because they may be unable to phycially (or for other reasons) breast feed, financially unable to stay home (and make completely organic food), and get hell for using a disposable diaper instead of sewing their own.

Women who bring down other women like that are just miserable all around. if I am ever a mother I hope I never become that way, or am the victim or some self-righteous militant freak who is probably so worried about their kid that the kid ends up with all kinds of problems because of what they think is right and better than everyone else.

Yeah, like the mothering.com crazies. Seriously.

DaemonSeid 01-01-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1760286)
Point. Set. Match.

This is the only thing that should matter. While it does bring up some good questions (e.g., Is it disrespecting surrounding people to BF without cover?), the misc. questions shouldn't be all over the news. Keep it to the main issue and leave it alone.

Outside of media attention: What are these women thinking? I looked at the group sort of on the fence about it--A women BFing her kid isn't that bad, but why on FB? Then the page loaded--over 3,000 pictures of women breastfeeding. What on earth would possess women to put picture after picture of themselves doing this with their babies on Facebook? It seems so personal (aside from your naked boob) to bond with your baby like that...do 140,000,000+ people really need to see? And some of those pictures were disturbing, I agree. Did anyone see the two girls playing "pretend feeding?" People commented on how cute it was, but it seemed way too much like child pornography. I don't see what's cute about an 8yo hiking her shirt all the way up so that a 6yo could "suck" on her nipple and then goold old Mom putting it on the Internet. :eek:

and then what of those people who actually get off on that kind of thing?


I am with facebook on this one too

AKA_Monet 01-02-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1760312)
I can't stand women who make other women feel bad because they may be unable to phycially (or for other reasons) breast feed, financially unable to stay home (and make completely organic food), and get hell for using a disposable diaper instead of sewing their own.

Women who bring down other women like that are just miserable all around. if I am ever a mother I hope I never become that way, or am the victim or some self-righteous militant freak who is probably so worried about their kid that the kid ends up with all kinds of problems because of what they think is right and better than everyone else.

WOW!!! Is there something you want to tell us here? LOL ;)

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760314)
I've told the story elsewhere - when I was about a month away from delivering baby #2 I had a breast cancer scare. My oncologist and I came up with a plan - I'd breastfeed for 6 weeks, then wait another 6 before doing my testing. There was a La Leche League consultant who was a neighbor who was HORRIFIED that I would stop at 6 weeks. Much better, apparently, to have a dead mother who breastfed than a living one who fed her baby formula. :rolleyes: That's nuts.

eta - The baby, now 16, and I are both just fine.

That is so odd to me. While I am not a mother, I know in SEVERAL countries, like China, where MANY women are incapable of expressing breast milk for their babies. The doctors don't know why due to poor public health, but it sounds like not enough prenatal care for the mothers--i.e. she is not eating or taking folic acid, etc. for her best pre, peri and natal care, etc.

When I visited the La Leche League's website for general interest, their scientific statements read like propaganda--saying if you DO NOT BF your baby you are going to you know where!!! But, I am not sure I would buy some of that science, because there were quite a few inconsistencies when I reviewed the actual articles in some of the data...

Breast milk is best for human babies early in life. We know that, no one is arguing that, but, judging someone for having to choose something other than because whatever, is rather imbalanced? I don't know?

If women are upset about showing their breastfeeding boobies indiscreetly, then why is La Leche not setting up a Ning.com profile and have folks post boobs everywhere they want? Just asking? :confused:

KSUViolet06 01-02-2009 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760314)
I've told the story elsewhere - when I was about a month away from delivering baby #2 I had a breast cancer scare. My oncologist and I came up with a plan - I'd breastfeed for 6 weeks, then wait another 6 before doing my testing. There was a La Leche League consultant who was a neighbor who was HORRIFIED that I would stop at 6 weeks. Much better, apparently, to have a dead mother who breastfed than a living one who fed her baby formula. :rolleyes: That's nuts.


I fail to see the logic behind this. But then again, we're talking about the same people who tell new moms that bottle feeding will cause their kids to DIE of infections before they're a year old. Yes, it is best for human babies, but ultimately the most important thing is for a baby to have a mom who is healthy and alive.

I had a prof who was a La Leche League member. I only know this because she took 20 minutes of every class to inform us (a class of 20-21 year old college kids who could care less) of the horrors of bottle feeding. I failed to see what that had to do with Business Writing.

Jimmy Choo 01-02-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1760280)
Agreed.

As far as other public places, I don't really have an issue with women nursing in public as long as they're doing so discretely. Most women I know who have kids carry blankets with them so they can nurse while not exposing themselves.

Most I know do too. But I've worked in kids retail a long time and seen more boobs than i care to think about. I will never forget this one lady who wanted to feed her toddler. I have issues with 3-year olds breastfeeding but whatever. She pulled down cutouts in her shirt then opened both cutouts in her bra so both boobs were exposed. I guess he gets to pick which one? Since he was running around the store at the time she was trying to catch him so he could have lunch. Bless his heart, he kept screaming "But I want Chickfila". So she's running around the store trying to catch him with both boobs exposed and then when she catches him she comes back to the register to pay with a kid screaming for Chickfila under her arm and both boobs exposed. How I took her credit card and packaged her purchase I will never know.

KappaKittyCat 01-02-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo (Post 1760373)
Most I know do too. But I've worked in kids retail a long time and seen more boobs than i care to think about. I will never forget this one lady who wanted to feed her toddler. I have issues with 3-year olds breastfeeding but whatever. She pulled down cutouts in her shirt then opened both cutouts in her bra so both boobs were exposed. I guess he gets to pick which one? Since he was running around the store at the time she was trying to catch him so he could have lunch. Bless his heart, he kept screaming "But I want Chickfila". So she's running around the store trying to catch him with both boobs exposed and then when she catches him she comes back to the register to pay with a kid screaming for Chickfila under her arm and both boobs exposed. How I took her credit card and packaged her purchase I will never know.

Dude, if the kid's old enough to ask for Chick-fil-A, then he doesn't need your tits anymore.

deepimpact2 01-02-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1760330)
and then what of those people who actually get off on that kind of thing?


To be honest, some of those pictures gave me the impression that some of the women were catering to that mindset of people who get off on that kind of thing rather than trying to show the beauty and joy of breastfeeding.

kddani 01-02-2009 11:25 AM

Breastfeeding 6 year old child to "comfort him":

http://http://abcnews.go.com/Health/...6551439&page=1

Lady, your 6 year old needs to develop self-comforting skills of his own that don't involve your boobie.

BetteDavisEyes 01-02-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760314)
I've told the story elsewhere - when I was about a month away from delivering baby #2 I had a breast cancer scare. My oncologist and I came up with a plan - I'd breastfeed for 6 weeks, then wait another 6 before doing my testing. There was a La Leche League consultant who was a neighbor who was HORRIFIED that I would stop at 6 weeks. Much better, apparently, to have a dead mother who breastfed than a living one who fed her baby formula. :rolleyes: That's nuts.


I knew someone that did have cancer while 7 months pregnant. Once the baby was born, she refused to stop breastfeeding until her son was 6 months old. Her radiation just had to wait. What happens? Cancer spread. Luckily, she did go into remission but things would not have been so bad had she not breastfed so much and gotten her treatment. I still roll my eyes when she talks like she's the expert about cancer and babies. :rolleyes:

preciousjeni 01-02-2009 12:12 PM

I'm with Facebook because it's their house. However I don't believe there's a difference between a breast and another body part, like a hand, unless we're so sexualized and immature as a society that we can't handle it. Then again, I'm a closet naturist.

preciousjeni 01-02-2009 12:21 PM

BTW, looks like they created a site for themselves:

http://www.tera.ca/photos6.html

Jimmy Choo 01-02-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat (Post 1760388)
Dude, if the kid's old enough to ask for Chick-fil-A, then he doesn't need your tits anymore.

That's always been my point but I don't have any kids. I tend to think once they get teeth it's time to move them off the teet. It's past time once they can ask for it.

deepimpact2 01-02-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat (Post 1760388)
Dude, if the kid's old enough to ask for Chick-fil-A, then he doesn't need your tits anymore.

:D lol

epchick 01-02-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1760401)
Breastfeeding 6 year old child to "comfort him":

http://http://abcnews.go.com/Health/...6551439&page=1

Lady, your 6 year old needs to develop self-comforting skills of his own that don't involve your boobie.

That sad, but not as sad as the lady who breastfeeds her (i think) 9 year old daughter. I remember we had an article on GC about her. I gotta find it.

deepimpact2 01-02-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1760439)
That sad, but not as sad as the lady who breastfeeds her (i think) 9 year old daughter. I remember we had an article on GC about her. I gotta find it.

Please tell me you're kidding...:eek:

epchick 01-02-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1760443)
Please tell me you're kidding...:eek:

So at the time, the child was around 7/8. I wonder if she's still breastfeeding.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=96923

ZTAMich 01-02-2009 03:35 PM

Is it so hard to put a burp cloth over your shoulder when you're nursing???

SWTXBelle 01-02-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1760407)
I knew someone that did have cancer while 7 months pregnant. Once the baby was born, she refused to stop breastfeeding until her son was 6 months old. Her radiation just had to wait. What happens? Cancer spread. Luckily, she did go into remission but things would not have been so bad had she not breastfed so much and gotten her treatment. I still roll my eyes when she talks like she's the expert about cancer and babies. :rolleyes:


Okay, I think that's a little nuts - but then I lost an aunt to breast cancer when she was 32 so maybe I was a little more scared than your friend. My oncologist and I agreed to do the first 6 weeks because that is the most important time in terms of the baby's immune system. AND I didn't even have a confirmed case of cancer - just some big ol' red flags. I'm glad it worked out for your friend, but IMHO IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LIVING MOTHER THAN TO BREASTFEED for a specific amount of time.

We are so blessed to live in a time where mothers have choices and resources. The most important thing is what is best for the mother and the baby, and that means different things to different parents and children.

DrPhil 01-02-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1760411)
BTW, looks like they created a site for themselves:

http://www.tera.ca/photos6.html

I am traumatized.

They are being too flashy (no pun intended) with this whole ordeal. Militancy for the sake of militancy breeds contempt. Women's breasts are not obscene just as men's chests and breasts aren't obscene. But there's a time and place for everything. And I think some of those photos look gross. Posting photos of children breast feeding is volunteering info to the WORLD for the sake of volunteering it. Whatever happened to protecting your children? Plus there are a few children on there who are old enough to be eating solid food. When you're old enough to POSE for the camera, you don't need to be posing with a nipple in your mouth. Yikes.

DrPhil 01-02-2009 04:35 PM

Oh my! The photo of the black couple and what looks like placenta and stuff! Oooook...I feel like I'm rubbernecking at the scene of a bad accident. Bad to look at but still looking.

SWTXBelle 01-02-2009 04:43 PM

Slightly off-topic (maybe)
 
I've never understood the whole "photograph everything associated with the birth" thing. Heck, as far as I'm concerned, my children came out clean and wrapped in a blanket. My ob/gyn (or family practitioner for #2) would ask "Do you want to watch?" and I would reply - "No! I'm busy!". When the ob/gyn asked my husband if he wanted to cut the cord, I piped up with "What, we're not paying you enough?". My focus was on having a healthy baby - and while I cherish the pictures of my minutes-old children, I'm also glad there aren't any of me at what was no doubt an amazing achievement for me - but one I chose to have reflected in pictures of the results. I would have HATED to think I was being videoed or photographed when in labour - and I was pretty low-key (no swearing or yelling). I have only one photo of me nursing, and it wasn't meant to be of me nursing - someone was trying to take a picture of Gypsyboots hugging her sister, and it just so happened she did it while sister was nursing. If you didn't know I was nursing her, you wouldn't know I was nursing her. That picture got to stay, but that's it.

end of rant.

Jimmy Choo 01-02-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1760407)
I knew someone that did have cancer while 7 months pregnant. Once the baby was born, she refused to stop breastfeeding until her son was 6 months old. Her radiation just had to wait. What happens? Cancer spread. Luckily, she did go into remission but things would not have been so bad had she not breastfed so much and gotten her treatment. I still roll my eyes when she talks like she's the expert about cancer and babies. :rolleyes:

That woman is no expert on anything other than how to almost kill yourself.

WCsweet<3 01-02-2009 08:56 PM

Agreement
 
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Originally Posted by ZTAMich (Post 1760463)
Is it so hard to put a burp cloth over your shoulder when you're nursing???

I KNOW! A few years ago, there was this big hubbub about how women shouldn't have to cover up. My mother and I both thought that was ridiculous. Sure its a natural process, but I don't want to see it.

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760484)
... IMHO IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LIVING MOTHER THAN TO BREASTFEED for a specific amount of time.
...
The most important thing is what is best for the mother and the baby, and that means different things to different parents and children.

Thank you! I also had an aunt die from cancer (breast cancer that metastized to her brain). How would the child feel if the mother died because she wanted to breast feed the baby?

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1760494)
Heck, as far as I'm concerned, my children came out clean and wrapped in a blanket.

This made my day.

KSUViolet06 01-02-2009 10:56 PM

FYI: 20/20 tonight is about "extreme motherhood" and one of the segments is about a woman who still nurses her 7 year old, and discusses how old some people think is too old for nursing.

christiangirl 01-03-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1760450)
So at the time, the child was around 7/8. I wonder if she's still breastfeeding.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=96923

Is that the same lady whose little girl (the oldest) talked about how much she missed nursing? She said she was jealous that her sister still got to because "breast milk is the best thing in the world...it tastes better than mangos." :confused:

ETA: Yup. That's them. This woman was on The Tyra Show I think and the audience thought she was NUTS.

preciousjeni 01-03-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1760439)
That sad, but not as sad as the lady who breastfeeds her (i think) 9 year old daughter. I remember we had an article on GC about her. I gotta find it.

I don't recall the article, but I think this is the lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74

preciousjeni 01-03-2009 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1760488)
Whatever happened to protecting your children?

They'll sacrifice anything for their cause apparently.

deepimpact2 01-03-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1760661)
I don't recall the article, but I think this is the lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74

:eek::eek:
OMG I feel nauseous. Sick is an understatement. They draw PICTURES and TALK to her breasts? Does she not realize this is sick?????? Someone needs to call their equivalent of DSS on her. Immediately. This woman is beyond nuts.

<gag>

deepimpact2 01-03-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1760662)
They'll sacrifice anything for their cause apparently.

Which shows their lack of sincerity in my opinion.

preciousjeni 01-03-2009 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1760491)
Oh my! The photo of the black couple and what looks like placenta and stuff! Oooook...I feel like I'm rubbernecking at the scene of a bad accident. Bad to look at but still looking.

She has her own Warrior Mamas page or something like that. Natural childbirth is something that really terrifies me. I'm afraid I would hate my child after that pain. I know the claim that "you forget the pain." B.S. :( I'onbelieyall.

preciousjeni 01-03-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1760667)
Which shows their lack of sincerity in my opinion.

Oh, they're very sincere. It's their care for their children that's in question.

agzg 01-03-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1760661)
I don't recall the article, but I think this is the lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74

Does anyone else find it incredibly sad that those girls seem to think that their mother is nothing more than a pair of boobs?

deepimpact2 01-03-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1760673)
Does anyone else find it incredibly sad that those girls seem to think that their mother is nothing more than a pair of boobs?

Quite frankly I think that the nursing that they do is starting to arouse some sexual feelings in them. Basically their mom has to "fight" them off while she's dressing. Does that sound like two innocent young children who nurse for the comfort of it? I don't think so. I think they are just too young to be able to realize that what they are feeling is something sexual. Very sick.

But I will say that while watching the video, I got the impression that it is starting to make her a little bit uncomfortable.

christiangirl 01-03-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1760669)
She has her own Warrior Mamas page or something like that. Natural childbirth is something that really terrifies me. I'm afraid I would hate my child after that pain. I know the claim that "you forget the pain." B.S. :( I'onbelieyall.

If I could just be unconscious then wake up when I have a baby I would. Apparently, that's bad for the baby but if they can figure out how to do it safely by the time I have kids...zzzzzzzzzzzz.


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