It also hasn't been in the stores for three years (source: I work there)

Also, the founder of vs died many years ago.

Many many years ago.

Yeah I had posted earlier, but deleted. Sometimes its not even worth it.

I bet you also totally heard about all the brothel laws there, amirite?

/Your NHQ is not a swim meet.

Yep, he died more than 10 years before PINK was even created. Crazy the things people come up with.

He didn't just die, he jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. :eek: I don't think it had anything to do with selling the company though...I read an interview with him once and he seemed perfectly happy to have gotten out when he did.

Haha I knew that, but I couldn't see how it worked into the point i was making/trying to make, so i left it out lol

Ha!!! Why did I only just see this now?

I just came across this old thread, and, after sweeping off the dust, I'll provide some accurate information. The CEO of the $6.1 billion dollar company known as Victoria's Secret is a Pi Beta Phi from Oklahoma named (Sharen) Jester Turney.
She named it Phi Beta Pink as a honor/wink for Pi Beta Phi. The Pi Phis at OU are reportedly very pretty and feminine, and many wore pink.
The Angel is the unofficial symbol of Pi Phi, so Jester creatively capitalized on this aspect of Pi Beta Phi and created a HUGE hit with this marketing tool. The fashion shows are televised worldwide with superstar models.
Many chapters of Pi Beta Phi have "Pink Parties" to raise money for philanthropic projects. It has been a win/win for all concerned.

There is no company called Victoria's Secret. It is part of Limited Brands.

Apparel Merchandising minor in college. Actually there was a Victoria's Secret company/brand with a handful of stores and they were purchased in the early 1980s by Limited Inc. It was started by a man and his wife after he realized that men did not want to go into lingerie stores to make purchases. We looked at the company in one of our case studies.

Not mutually exclusive. Victoria's Secret is a company that us wholly owned by L Brands.

The Pi Phi connection seems pretty "urban legend-y" to me. The Pink Parties at my daughter's chapter are strictly sisterhood events, with a Cookie Shine for the new members.

And the Pink Parties have been around for a very long time!

See this story on the CEO of Victoria's Secret, Sharon Jester Tunney, a DG from Oklahoma.

http://digital.watkinsprinting.com/p...tion/?i=151514

URBAN MYTH - There is no truth to this rumor, folks. There is no Victoria's Secret connection with Pi Phi. Sharon Tunney is indeed a Delta Gamma.

And not to be the bearer of bad news but Mrs. Wrigley was not a Pi Phi. Mrs. Parker wasn't either. I thought these rumors were pretty much laid to rest, but I received an e-mail just this week from an incredulous alumna who heard these "facts" as a pledge in the 1970s. I heard them, too, but it doesn't make them true.

Reminds me of the time the Theta Archivist told me that the kite in the opening credits of "That Girl" had absolutely nothing to do with Marlo Thomas' Theta connection. I just kept repeating, "But that's what the Chi Chapter members told me when I went through rush." My repeating that didn't make it true.

>> Thank you for sharing some accurate information! Oh, wait...

>>DGTess, thank you for clearing that up!

>>I bet if you look at any sorority or any group of young women, a certain percentage would wear the color pink at any given time. I also guarantee that many women in other sororities at other schools are "reportedly very pretty and feminine."

Don't you think it's odd that someone would create something that means something special to a very small, exclusive group, for millions of other people to wear?

Apparently the myth is being propagated elsewhere online...

"What is Victoria's secret???
The Victoria's secret store has a secret. My girlfriend just got initiated into her sorority pi beta phi which is the sorority the designer of victoria's secret made. Only the girls in pi beta phi know the secret and apparently nobody else does.

Does anyone know what the secret is or could be, she says i will never find the answer and her sorority has sworn to secrecy to never tell, and signed some piece of paper to say the will never tell anyone outside the sorority."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=129282281

Thanks to the Internet and even the invention of the telephone, it's so easy to research stories like this one.

I know the secret because I'm a Pi Phi! NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER KNOW. It is the main secret of Pi Beta Phi, and we are told at initiation. But my chapter president is being a doody head right now, so I will tell you.

The secret is (highlight to read... I don't want EVERYONE to know)

This is all a bunch of bullshit

Well shut my mouth wide open!

I stand corrected.

I will inform my 'knowledgable' friend about the inaccuracy of this information. I will also tell my Kappa sister that she can stop teasing me about our sorority alum being famous for "making underwear'. I find VS has attractive sleepwear and lingerie.

Thank you ladies, and you know who you are, for your kind PMs setting the record straight. Also, thanks to those who responded in a gracious, genteel, and polite manner about my misconception and miscommunication.

It is so nice to be informed with consideration and thoughtfulness, and not sarcasm or negativity.

As for those of you who replied otherwise, and you know who you are, ahem... "Need a refill on your Haterade?"

FYI, we have a FSU Tri Delta to thank for Spanx!

And a Kappa is responsible for making the (old-time) monthly boxes light blue and dark blue. :eek: ;)

Monthly boxes? Do you mean feminine protection products?

There's a whole psychology to using color to influence purchase decisions. Blue is associated with trust and reliability, so it makes sense if that's what you are referring to.

I saw her on 60 Minutes last week, along with a handful of other billionaires, who have pledged to donate at least half of their wealth to philanthropic endeavors (through The Giving Pledge, created by Warren Buffett and Bill Gates). She said she started her company with $5,000.

Good to hear
 

This is inspiring. I've read several stories where people have become extremely wealthy from a small investment. Good for them! I hope more of the 1% or even those in the 10% bracket, began donating some of their money to worthy causes. Personally, I pray that much of is ear-marked for saving our environment and wildlife.

You can read the letters from each pledgor through this link. Each letter briefly outlines how the pledgor plans to contribute to society. They cover everything from the environment, to education overseas, to homelessness here at home, to childhood cancer, etc.

http://givingpledge.org

Sara Blakely (Tri Delta, Spanx creator) has made a pledge to help women, especially in other parts of the world where they may not be as fortunate as we are here in the United States.

the truth about Phi Beta PINK!
 

Victoria Secret used to be called Phi Beta PINK because a Pi Phi was the Designer for Victoria Secret. That's why VS's mascot is an angel b/c Pi Phi's mascot is an angel. Phi Beta PINK is a play on words for Pi Beta Phi. And there is a secret that only piphi's know about Victoria Secret.

PPL&M!

Really?

Suggest you read this thread from the beginning. :cool:

LOL that anyone would think their sorority had a secret tie with an underwear company. OMG. I'm dying.

Somebody has to make the catsuits, you know.

Very true, and they might as well be fashionable.

My daughter is a Pi Phi and I forced her to tell me the secret. I really shouldn't post it here publicly, but if Pi Phi felt it was worthy of changing their ritual, it's important enough that all should know.

The Secret: (An angel came to earth and shared that panty lines are now considered a sin, especially during recruitment.)

Another little-known fact is that Delta Delta Delta also changed their ritual to reference the fact that Neptune rose from the sea to share the idea for Spanx.

Too bad it's not April Fool's Day....

Wow, are these posters b******s, or what? Catty remarks!
Jumping down the throat of some fellow greek ladies who fell for an 'urban legend'?
I know AOPi, and KKG, both have inaccurate postings on their webpages. LOL.
They would DIE, and not of laughter, if they knew their sorority's nicknames at my school. One of which folded and the other is considered 'bottom tier'.
ALL sororities have 'urban legends' and ALL sororities claim famous alumnae who aren't members. Panellenic Love….

Frankly, your "calling out" sororities by name and making rude comments about their "status" on your campus is much less Panhellenic than some tongue-in-cheek joking around that no one who has been around here for a long time takes seriously.

Oh, the irony.

Ha!
 

The 'tongue-in-cheek' attacks are mean spirited, even if the 'old-timers' don't take them seriously…really? Making fun of people is cool?
It's not ok to make fun of any sorority, in any manner. As far as calling out specific sororities, I think that has been done.
The 'old-timers' on GC need to brush off the dust on their etiquette books, if this that is considered fun. For the holier than thou groups, it's time to look at one's comments.
Panhell love….

Way to put the hell in Panhell, dear. It IS laughable that this was posted AGAIN today after having been debunked multiple times in the thread. There's nothing wrong with actually reading before posting.

Oh, and feel free to point out the inaccuracies in AOII's and Kappa's international websites.

Yes, that was just done by you.

And "holier-than-thou groups".. which ones would those be?

A better story is that Sigma Alpha Mu has an even greater tie with an underwear company (Les Wexner, Chairman of the Board)

We're making fun of sorority urban legends in general, and the fact that this urban legend keeps popping up in this thread, after it's been debunked by Pi Phi's national historian and other Pi Phis who have posted comments, some of which also poke fun at this urban legend. Yes, my daughter really is a Pi Phi, and she thinks that portions of this particular urban legend are laughable, too.

You're either a troll, or you're taking this way too seriously.

Bwahahaha. Go ahead and tell me some of those AOPi nicknames and while your at it explain how your threats are in anyway encouraging Panhellenic love? Reading is fundamental. If you can't learn about your own groups true history and significant members, don't go posting about it on the Internet. Yes, we ALL have erroneous famous members listed on chapter websites out there, but good lord, if there are multiple posts in a thread debunking a rumor about a famous alum, give up the ghost! I honestly think I'll scream the next time I see that Coca Cola is red and white because of AOII or that Heather Whitestone is an AOII, and if an AOII posts those in a thread two posts after they've been debunked, she needs to 1) learn to read 2) learn some GC etiquette 3) stop being so gullible. Now, if you feel so upset because you are in Pi Phi and think we were jumping on them exclusively, get over yourself...but it is nice to know you affiliation.