Insults? Sweetie, if you can't understand the difference between saying you are a closed minded bitch (which would be an insult) and saying I think you live a strange insular, isolated life (which is actually what I said about your comment in the thread) then I hate it for you.

People are allowed to comment on stupid things people say...

Now, stop fucking pm'ing me. If you have something to say, then say it. But, don't clog up my inbox with your moaning and bitching.

Good question, but I would be shocked if I found out my kid was involved in a school shooting and he was the one doing the shooting.

Cool beans. :) I wasn't disagreeing with you, that was for everybody. Sorry, my Hermione is acting up. :p

http://www.hermionegrangerswand.com/images/hermione.jpg

Gay is the LEAST of my concern...you can be gay and completely healthy physically and mentally, compared to some of the straight people i know who are real pieces of work. would you rather have a gay child or a serial killer child? i think peoples fear in the gay thing is sometimes they think they caused it somehow.

i had my first child at 19, and my parents were, to say the least, devastated. i think at that point, that was the worst thing they could think of to happen to one of their children...8 years later, i completely understand why they felt that way, and why they also changed their minds. they are so over it now!

my parents are christian, so if i asked them, the worst news they could get would be that one of our souls weren't saved and we were going to hell.

What a sick world we live in where someone would rather their child suffer and DIE of a terminal illness than go against their political values.

You're generalizing quite a bit - just because someone is a member of a political party doesn't mean that they ascribe to every value of that party's platform.
For example, I'm a Republican who also happens to be pro-choice and anti-death penalty. I know Democrats who are pro-death penalty and/or anti-gay marriage.

You may want to be more open-minded on things - life isn't so black and white, especially when it comes to politics.

It would be more devastating for me to hear that a parent would essentially disown their child for joining the "wrong" party.

My parents and I are all Republicans. But they voted YES on 2 (the FL equivalent of 8), while I gave it a big fat NO. They are very conservative (though my mother did want Hillary to win), while I am a moderate.

Anyhow, my worst nightmare for a child of mine would be that he or she were to get into an accident or suffer an illness that would severely impair his/her quality of life and would prevent him/her from being independent and doing things he/she enjoys. Second worst would be that they would get into severe trouble with the law- first degree murder or the sort- that would be against the values I worked so hard to instill.

I get the feeling this is what kstar thinks is what would happen if one of her kids changed political parties than the one she raised them with. Otherwise, why be so devastated?

Well it would be bad knowing your child is not a believer but, you shouldnt love them any less or treat them differently. The choice to accept Christ is theirs alone. You may force someone to go to church, "stongly encourage" them to get baptized and what not, but you cant force anyone to accept Christ. They have to make that decision on their own and and in the meantime you can pray about it.

Besides, why disown your child or anyone for that matter over that? I dont think that is leading/witnessing by example. A love for your child should be UNCONDITIONAL!!

KSTAR, I have told you to stop pm'ing me. I don't really care you if have "asked me to be polite." Truth is, I don't have to be polite. Just like you didn't have to get your panties in such a wad just because I disagreed with you.

Now, if you have something to say, feel free to address those concerns in here. But, I don't hide behind PMs and I encourage you to do the same.

Since you insist on being off topic...
 

I keep PMing you because you persist in taking the thread off topic. I don't care that you don't agree with me, as I said, most people don't. I do expect you to be civil. That said, if you don't like the PMs ignore them don't continue to take the thread off topic.

BOTH PMED AND POSTED FOR YOUR WISHES.

Funny. I don't recall having to live up to YOUR expectations. And, you don't get to tell me to stop posting in a thread.

Stop pming me. You are becoming a fucking stalker.

STOP harassing me through constant pms in retribution for posting my opinions in this thread. You don't have the right to tell me not to post.

Sorry OP, she insists on doing this here.
 

I didn't harrass you, I explained my opinion in a PM to keep the thread on topic. You haven't posted anything of substance, just rude messages.

I didn't tell you not to post, I just replied in a way to keep the thread on topic, which you obviously cannot seem to do.

BTW, Replying to statements that you make does not make me a stalker, I thought you wanted discourse? I just prefer to keep the off topic discourse in a PM.

UMMM, when I ask you three times to stop sending me private messages and you tell me you will stop IF I stop replying to you in a thread, THAT is harassment.

You are not a mod. You don't get to tell ANYONE to keep ANY thread on-topic.

No, REPLYING to threads doesn't make you a stalker... Constantly pming someone after every new post they make that you don't like makes you stalkerish.

And anyone who would rather have their child DIE than to hold values that go against the values THEY wanted their child to have IS COMPLETELY PSYCHO.

THAT, MY DEAR, IS AN ATTACK.

I totally agree with this....

I agree with KSigKid and Christiangirl. I do not agree with every value the Republican Party espouses. But I agree with more Republican ones than Democratic ones. Hence I'm a proud elephant.

I think the most interesting thing about this thread is that most people feel that the worst thing to happen would be a child who is injured, dying, suffering, etc. This, imo, is the sign of a true parent - that you are worried most about your child's wellbeing rather than your own welfare.

Putting a child's needs first is an indicator of a true parent. The poster(s) whose answers reflected the predominant concern with the parent's wellbeing, i.e. being disappointed in a child because of a decision he made, - is an indicator that the poster is not really thinking about the child but about herself.

hijack

Okay, I'm completely off topic, but this reminds me of a quote I saw on an acquaintance's facebook:

"Democrats clearly have more fun. I mean, who's ever heard of a good piece of elephant?" :p

/end hijack

I'm late getting back to the party, but yeah, I find that pretty hard to understand. And pretty close-minded.

In my opinion, the parent who cannot respect his or her child when the child does something like a 180 on the parent's political beliefs probably doesn't deserve the child's respect.

Just an FYI -- I've known too many parents who have lost a child, and to a person, they've said it's something you never get it over. Ever. You get grief counseling, you do support groups, you learn to cope, but you never get over it. You miss that child every day for the rest of your own life. And you regret that you let stupid things that seemed so important at the time get in the way of your relationship with your child. Having children of my own, I don't doubt for a second that they're telling it like it is.

Any good parent knows early on that the kids will make choices that mom and dad don't agree with. Some of them will be minor choices (that awful haircut), some will be big. Maybe REALLY BIG. And good parents constantly tell their children, through word and deed, "there is nothing you can ever do that will make me stop loving you." They mean it and they do their best, however hard that might be, to live it.

I'll wager every penny I have that the day kstar actually is a parent, she'll realize the stupefying silliness of her original post. If that's your greatest fear or the worst thing that ever happens to you, kstar, you are in for an easy go of things in life.