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CrackerBarrel 11-06-2008 04:07 PM

It takes a little practice to learn to tie one, but once you've learned it is much easier to tie a good looking bowtie than a good looking long tie knot. At least in my opinion.

LXAGuy08 11-06-2008 04:22 PM

Yeah bowties are in here in Florida, we were them all the time in date functions and socials, but i agree not everyone can wear them. self- confindence is a must, or atleast just try to play the part.

AOII Angel 11-06-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741290)
You'd spill on your shirt, which is not nearly as hard or expensive to clean as a tie is.

Send him to this website or order this DVD from BeauTies Ltd.

It's really not hard once you get the hang of it.

Yeah...he's used it, but he's spatially challenged! I tie them for him if I'm home when he gets up, but despite being highly intelligent, he has a block when it comes to tying a bowtie. I don't think it's much different than tying your shoes, but that's me.

Kevin 11-06-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1741274)
yeah, but then it would spill on your shirt/jacket

The shirts I wear are Joseph A. Banks' Travelers shirts.

I don't know if they're supposed to be stain resistant, but I don't have any stains on my shirts :)

They're damned good shirts though...

RU OX Alum 11-07-2008 10:05 AM

my cousin used to work at one of their stores, you're right they are good shirts (not sure if i have the traveller)

magichat 11-07-2008 11:07 AM

I'm sorry but this is just trying too hard

"From the heritage of southerner's influential attire to the Old Money families across the land..."

A little classless if you ask me. If you have to brag...

www.southernproper.com

KSigkid 11-07-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1741326)
The shirts I wear are Joseph A. Banks' Travelers shirts.

I don't know if they're supposed to be stain resistant, but I don't have any stains on my shirts :)

They're damned good shirts though...

Those sound a lot like the ones I wear - I'm a big fan of the Brooks Brothers Wrinkle-Free shirts.

srmom 11-07-2008 12:15 PM

Everything Brooks Brothers makes that are "wrinkle free" are the BEST!!

My sons/husband particularly like the wrinkle free pants and shorts.

While my husband has his clothes regularly laundered and pressed, my sons routinely jumble up their clothes in a pile, then pull them out to wear - and VOILA' those pants and shorts look great every time!!

MysticCat 11-07-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1741668)
While my husband has his clothes regularly laundered and pressed, my sons routinely jumble up their clothes in a pile, then pull them out to wear - and VOILA' those pants and shorts look great every time!!

I keep debating trying either Jos. A. Banks Traveler's shirts or Brookes Bros. wrinkle-free shirts. I hesitate though -- I think I'd miss the feel and look of a starched shirt.

RU OX Alum 11-07-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by magichat (Post 1741640)
I'm sorry but this is just trying too hard

"From the heritage of southerner's influential attire to the Old Money families across the land..."

A little classless if you ask me. If you have to brag...

www.southernproper.com

Yeah, that's a bit much...did you click on the southern fraternity hunt banner?

Munchkin03 11-07-2008 01:12 PM

Seriously?!

I think they're trying too hard when they don't have to at all. They have a good product that fills a certain niche. Finding the "frattiest" gentlemen just seems silly.

MysticCat 11-07-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1741692)
Seriously?!

I think they're trying too hard when they don't have to at all. They have a good product that fills a certain niche. Finding the "frattiest" gentlemen just seems silly.

They clearly want to be the fratty Abercrombie and Fitch.

(And I'm old enough to remember when Abercrombie and Fitch was fratty . . . er, um . . . preppy.)

CrackerBarrel 11-07-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741672)
I keep debating trying either Jos. A. Banks Traveler's shirts or Brookes Bros. wrinkle-free shirts. I hesitate though -- I think I'd miss the feel and look of a starched shirt.

Brooks wrinkle-free shirts are the greatest thing ever. Not quite as big a fan of the Traveler shirt (not a real big fan of Jos. A Bank in general) but it is ok as well.

nittanyalum 11-07-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by magichat (Post 1741640)
I'm sorry but this is just trying too hard

"From the heritage of southerner's influential attire to the Old Money families across the land..."

A little classless if you ask me. If you have to brag...

www.southernproper.com

I am clearly much too northern -- as soon as the front page opened, I took a look at that guy and my first thought was "he needs a haircut". And the little patterns in the stripes of the tie are odd to me, I couldn't take someone seriously who walked into my office with little doggies or something on their tie. But again, that's just me and my sensibilities. (could be regional or generational or both)
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741672)
I think I'd miss the feel and look of a starched shirt.

I agree with this, you can definitely tell the difference between someone who's wearing a pressed, starched shirt and someone wearing a wrinkle-free. For casual days the wrinkle-free are fine, but for more formal or professional situations, I still prefer to see a man in a good starched shirt.

srmom 11-07-2008 03:18 PM

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I took a look at that guy and my first thought was "he needs a haircut"
My kids and I call that type of haircut - the Alabama Swoop, as seen on every guy on that MTV show about the Hoover High football team. The swoop is not popular in Texas, guys here go for more of a clean cut look - like a #2 clippers length - barber shops all the way.

When my youngest starts looking "swoopy" it's time for a visit to Sal's.

Definitely, a starched shirt is the best, but considering my college kids probably only take things to the cleaners when they come home and I pay, wrinkle free is the best way to go.

WVU alpha phi 11-07-2008 03:41 PM

I took a look at the Belles for Beaus program- I know one of the students listed at Bama! She's a Tri Delt there. How random.

GeekyPenguin 11-07-2008 10:59 PM

Wrinkle-free shirts are the best. I think I'm allergic to starch, seriously. I can't even stand touching my boyfriend's shirts so I try to buy him wrinkle-free ones all the time to get rid of the ones that need to be starched.

KSigkid 11-08-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1741723)
I am clearly much too northern -- as soon as the front page opened, I took a look at that guy and my first thought was "he needs a haircut". And the little patterns in the stripes of the tie are odd to me, I couldn't take someone seriously who walked into my office with little doggies or something on their tie. But again, that's just me and my sensibilities. (could be regional or generational or both)

I agree with this, you can definitely tell the difference between someone who's wearing a pressed, starched shirt and someone wearing a wrinkle-free. For casual days the wrinkle-free are fine, but for more formal or professional situations, I still prefer to see a man in a good starched shirt.

I don't know...the Brooks Brothers wrinkle-free look pretty darn good. I've worn them with suits, to court, etc, and always gotten good feedback.

Kevin 11-08-2008 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1741723)
I agree with this, you can definitely tell the difference between someone who's wearing a pressed, starched shirt and someone wearing a wrinkle-free. For casual days the wrinkle-free are fine, but for more formal or professional situations, I still prefer to see a man in a good starched shirt.

I press my own clothes, so maybe this isn't the best of comparisons. I do have a few non-wrinkle-free items in my wardrobe, and you can definitely tell by the end of the day when they're wrinkled all to hell that they're not wrinkle free. And really, none of my work attire is casual. I wear a suit every day.

My only complaint about the Joseph A. Banks shirts is that they don't breathe very well at all.

Just about the only things I'll pay for to be professionally starched and pressed are my tux shirts.

We don't have Brooks Brothers stores in OKC, but oddly enough, there is one in Wichita, and understandably, about 4 in the DFW area. I'm going to give 'em a try though.

Munchkin03 11-08-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1742007)
I don't know...the Brooks Brothers wrinkle-free look pretty darn good. I've worn them with suits, to court, etc, and always gotten good feedback.

They are awesome. I have one that was at the bottom of one of my desk drawers at work (we do yoga after work on Tuesdays, so I changed out pretty quickly) for a few months. When I took it out--no wrinkles! It was kinda cool, and totally worth the price. My only complaint is that the women's fitted shirts are still a little too big for me around the shoulders.

PhiGam 11-08-2008 03:02 PM

Best polos: Brooks Brothers
Best oxfords: Ralph Lauren Polo
Best shorts: RL Polo
Best pants: Brooks Brothers
VV has crazy colored stuff- it screams yankee to me. RL and BB are more conservative and traditional.

KSigkid 11-08-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1742118)
Best polos: Brooks Brothers
Best oxfords: Ralph Lauren Polo
Best shorts: RL Polo
Best pants: Brooks Brothers
VV has crazy colored stuff- it screams yankee to me. RL and BB are more conservative and traditional.

Haha - generally, Yankees (at least New Englanders) don't wear crazy colors. Most of the professionals up here wear pretty conservative/traditional colors.

ETA: I agree on the polos - Brooks Brothers polos are the best. They look great and breathe really well.

UGAalum94 11-08-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741696)
They clearly want to be the fratty Abercrombie and Fitch.

(And I'm old enough to remember when Abercrombie and Fitch was fratty . . . er, um . . . preppy.)

Me too. It's strange to me that the Limited bought that particular brand if today's Abercrombie is what they wanted to make of it.

But maybe we were in the height of the J.Crew and Gap era so they wanted to use the preppy associations at the time.

ETA: it's an interesting corporate history, I think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abercrombie_and_Fitch

CrackerBarrel 11-08-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1742118)
Best polos: Brooks Brothers
Best oxfords: Ralph Lauren Polo
Best shorts: RL Polo
Best pants: Brooks Brothers
VV has crazy colored stuff- it screams yankee to me. RL and BB are more conservative and traditional.

For dress oxfords I think Brooks are better than Polo. For casual oxfords I agree though.

Elephant Walk 11-08-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1742118)
Best polos: Brooks Brothers
Best oxfords: Ralph Lauren Polo
Best shorts: RL Polo
Best pants: Brooks Brothers
VV has crazy colored stuff- it screams yankee to me. RL and BB are more conservative and traditional.

I generally agree, but I really like VV's oxfords. Hate their polos, but their oxfords in the spring are really comfortable.

tallgreekalum 11-09-2008 06:36 PM

I agree that Southern Proper's website is a bit declasse.

Also, I guess I getting old as when I prepped (in NE), one either wore a starched shirt or a wrinkled natural cotton one, usually BB or J.Press.

MysticCat 11-09-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1742118)
Best polos: Brooks Brothers
Best oxfords: Ralph Lauren Polo

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1742161)
For dress oxfords I think Brooks are better than Polo. For casual oxfords I agree though.

I'll agree on BB polos, but for dress oxfords, no way on RL Polo. Real dress shirts don't have logos on them.

(Of course, I'm probably biased anyway. I don't think I've worn anything Polo in 20+ years -- I developed an almost irrational hatred and contempt for the brand sometime around law school.)

AOII_LB93 11-10-2008 09:44 PM

Ok, well more power to you if you wear a bow tie. Even when I've been near the courts in downtown L.A. or where ever else, I've not seen many men wearing them. I'm not a fan, but hey, if it works for you, by all means.

Now if any of you try and argue croakies, I'm out. Those went out here in the 80s.

MysticCat 11-10-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1743093)
Ok, well more power to you if you wear a bow tie. Even when I've been near the courts in downtown L.A. or where ever else, I've not seen many men wearing them.

LOL. I am so nowhere near L.A.


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