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SAEalumnus 11-13-2008 09:10 PM

Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.

rufio 11-13-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1744353)
Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.

thank god.

questioner 11-14-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1744353)
Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.


where?

questioner 11-14-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by questioner (Post 1744495)
where?

oh lol i think its this thread

SAEalumnus 11-14-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by questioner (Post 1744500)
oh lol i think its this thread

:) exactly

SAEalumnus 11-14-2008 01:26 PM

After doing some research on this issue, I discovered that Delta Upsilon's headquarters website lists all active chapters, and colonies, and interest groups. Nowhere on this list is any mention made of any Philippine group at any level of recognition. I also discovered that all of the Philippine websites given in this thread display the coat of arms and other works of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity claiming the Philippine chapters to be a direct extension of the North American organization.

To the DUs here, do the Philippine groups have permission from Delta Upsilon to be using your copyrighted/trademarked works, or are they considered perps as far as DU is concerned?

rufio 11-14-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1744660)
To the DUs here, do the Philippine groups have permission from Delta Upsilon to be using your copyrighted/trademarked works, or are they considered perps as far as DU is concerned?

no they're operating outside of our permission. so they're perping. were just nice enough not to make a big deal out of it. it's the only downfall to being non-secret and having ritual and trademarks available on the internet; anyone can just pick up your letters and pretend.

SAEalumnus 11-14-2008 02:18 PM

Do you then wish for them to continue to post and promote their 'chapters' within the DU forum, or do you prefer they not be permitted to do so unless/until recognized by Delta Upsilon IHQ?

DUKyleXY 11-15-2008 05:25 AM

Don't worry about removing their access... They are being truthful in their attempts to affiliate. I am a National Undergraduate officer (UGAB Province 9) and our last Board of Directors meeting summary report mentioned:

"The discussion then moved to international expansion. As some of you may or may not know there are a few “Chapters” of Delta Upsilon working out in the Philippines. International has become more aware of this, and at the meeting we discussed whether this would be a worthwhile investment for Delta Upsilon. We felt as though having more than just North American chapters would be worthwhile, and voiced so to the Board."

So at least they are attempting to affiliate...better than most Philippines 'chapters.'

rufio 11-15-2008 01:38 PM

yeah, let them have their access. as long as they're not over spamming our board with the same thread, i dont have a problem.

ps, they need to stop PMing me.

questioner 11-17-2008 12:42 AM

Can you post here details about your national origins? I cannot find any site speaking about your national origins. I believe that these are certain details that need to be opened.

thanks

DUKyleXY 11-17-2008 12:47 AM

Which entity are you speaking to questioner?

The DU-North America origins can be found here: http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?a...t&ContentId=89

As to the DU-Philippines, they have no 'national' origins, they do not consider themselves as a national organization, merely as chapters of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity. If you want info on their chapters, check out one of their websites (posted earlier many times)

Hope this helps...

questioner 11-17-2008 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DUKyleXY (Post 1745297)
Which entity are you speaking to questioner?

The DU-North America origins can be found here: http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?a...t&ContentId=89

As to the DU-Philippines, they have no 'national' origins, they do not consider themselves as a national organization, merely as chapters of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity. If you want info on their chapters, check out one of their websites (posted earlier many times)

Hope this helps...

I'm pretty sure they have such a thing. Its impossible for one to exist like just Adam and Eve exploding on bamboo trunks appearing from nowhere... To some extent there is a national history in the Philippines to its inception and to its "Philippine Founding Father/s"... I may call it a "national" history; they may call it "local" history; but one thing is certain, that there such a thing exist for DU-phil.

also

Delta Upsilon Society of San Felipe


Is this related to the Philippine organization?

DUKyleXY 11-17-2008 07:16 AM

The two organizations are completely separate. DU-San Felipe is a separate organization with their own symbology, ritual, membership, etc.

rufio 11-17-2008 03:02 PM

hey, the DU society badge looks awfully familiar...

questioner 11-17-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rufio (Post 1745494)
hey, the DU society badge looks awfully familiar...

thats what im thinkin, Sherlock. and I'm thinkin these two "Philippine" organizations might be related in some way.

alumnisec 11-17-2008 06:13 PM

The history of delta upsilon in the philippines
 
www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com








http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I...6204/GW202H182http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/xZ...21693/GW587H90


BRIEF HISTORY OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines because they believe that in this fraternity they have found what they are looking for,the true meaning of brotherhood. These alumni first discover delta upsilon through a wide research on the internet and study the expansion procedures and 20 things in bringing DU to the campus.But just to legalize the expansion they have decided to email the IHQ and other chapters in North America and fortunately one alumni from Alberta chapter and one also from Miami chapter had manage to reply the email.In thier email they have advice the seven pioneers to continue to send emails and send also the list of members and photos to the IHQ in order to be recognize.




Because of the response of the alumni from the 2 chapters of North America the pioneers were encourage to pursue the expansion of delta upsilon in the Philippines.Until such time that in June 22, 2004 the seven pioneers namely Benhur R. Patalinghug , Engr. Fryle P. Lim , Roel G. Zunega Jr, Albert A. Suelto , Laong-laan Polinar , Cerilo Ibanez , and Rico Bohol had conduct the ritual of intitiation and proclaimed the date as the official founding for Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.


The first university wherein the alumni first introduced Delta Upsilon was the Silliman University Chapter or the Mother Chapter and a number of students who come to joined and be a part of this non-secret fraternity.Indeed through this school Delta Upsilon had expanded to other colleges and universities by the efforts of the undergraduates who express thier love and loyalty to the fraternity.The next was the Negros Oriental State University which is founded the same date with the Silliman Chapter ,June 22, 2004.


On the other hand the efforts of the DU`s towards chapter expansions will also be acknowledge in the history and so it has been included here the brothers who are responsible in expanding these chapters.








THE CHAPTER EXPANSIONS


Dipolog City, Philippines

Dipolog Medical College Foundation Inc. Chapter - founded by DU Mico Estacio with the support of DU Mark Ramos

Metro Manila , Philippines

All chapters of Metro Manila were founded by DU Onell Baroy

Philippine Christian University Chapter - founded July 28 , 2006

Polytechnic University of the
Philippines - founded August 8, 2007

Rizal Technological University of the Philippines - founded November 29, 2007

Colegio de San Juan de Letran - founded recently



The alumni pioneers of the fraternity eventhough they are busy with thier jobs both local or overseas, but they still stay in contact with thier alumni and undergraduate brothers for they believe that Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifelong brotherhood. Hail delta upsilon!!!!




http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I...6204/GW202H182 FROM : THE ALUMNI FOUNDING PIONEERS OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES





DUKyleXY 11-17-2008 06:57 PM

If you look closely, their text is on the arms of the Delta, not the Upsilon, also, they are fully recognized by IHQ as a legal entity without any copyright issues.

DU-Philippines is not the same org.

SAEalumnus 11-17-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alumnisec (Post 1745595)
www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com








http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I...6204/GW202H182http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/xZ...21693/GW587H90


BRIEF HISTORY OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES
Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines because they believe that in this fraternity they have found what they are looking for,the true meaning of brotherhood. These alumni first discover delta upsilon through a wide research on the internet and study the expansion procedures and 20 things in bringing DU to the campus.But just to legalize the expansion they have decided to email the IHQ and other chapters in North America and fortunately one alumni from Alberta chapter and one also from Miami chapter had manage to reply the email.In thier email they have advice the seven pioneers to continue to send emails and send also the list of members and photos to the IHQ in order to be recognize.




Because of the response of the alumni from the 2 chapters of North America the pioneers were encourage to pursue the expansion of delta upsilon in the Philippines.Until such time that in June 22, 2004 the seven pioneers namely Benhur R. Patalinghug , Engr. Fryle P. Lim , Roel G. Zunega Jr, Albert A. Suelto , Laong-laan Polinar , Cerilo Ibanez , and Rico Bohol had conduct the ritual of intitiation and proclaimed the date as the official founding for Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.


The first university wherein the alumni first introduced Delta Upsilon was the Silliman University Chapter or the Mother Chapter and a number of students who come to joined and be a part of this non-secret fraternity.Indeed through this school Delta Upsilon had expanded to other colleges and universities by the efforts of the undergraduates who express thier love and loyalty to the fraternity.The next was the Negros Oriental State University which is founded the same date with the Silliman Chapter ,June 22, 2004.


On the other hand the efforts of the DU`s towards chapter expansions will also be acknowledge in the history and so it has been included here the brothers who are responsible in expanding these chapters.








THE CHAPTER EXPANSIONS


Dipolog City, Philippines

Dipolog Medical College Foundation Inc. Chapter - founded by DU Mico Estacio with the support of DU Mark Ramos

Metro Manila , Philippines

All chapters of Metro Manila were founded by DU Onell Baroy

Philippine Christian University Chapter - founded July 28 , 2006

Polytechnic University of the
Philippines - founded August 8, 2007

Rizal Technological University of the Philippines - founded November 29, 2007

Colegio de San Juan de Letran - founded recently



The alumni pioneers of the fraternity eventhough they are busy with thier jobs both local or overseas, but they still stay in contact with thier alumni and undergraduate brothers for they believe that Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifelong brotherhood. Hail delta upsilon!!!!





http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I...6204/GW202H182 FROM : THE ALUMNI FOUNDING PIONEERS OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

Maybe I'm mistaken, but in reference to the bit highlighted in black above, doesn't that conflict with DU's constitution and bylaws (Articles 2 and 3) and Policies and Procedures (Policies 4.5, 4.6) which are available online? As I understand it, no interest group has formally been established, no colony has been recognized, and no chapter has been chartered. Even though the ritual of initiation may be available online, how is the "initiation" of the "seven pioneers" a valid initiation? And isn't the founding date of a new chapter marked by the date on which IHQ grants a charter?

questioner 11-18-2008 02:30 AM

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Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines
Who are these men?(citation needed)

rufio 11-18-2008 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by questioner (Post 1745523)
thats what im thinkin, Sherlock. and I'm thinkin these two "Philippine" organizations might be related in some way.

wow, i guess its harder than i thought to convey sarcasm over the internet.

DUKyleXY 11-18-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1745631)
Maybe I'm mistaken, but in reference to the bit highlighted in black above, doesn't that conflict with DU's constitution and bylaws (Articles 2 and 3) and Policies and Procedures (Policies 4.5, 4.6) which are available online? As I understand it, no interest group has formally been established, no colony has been recognized, and no chapter has been chartered. Even though the ritual of initiation may be available online, how is the "initiation" of the "seven pioneers" a valid initiation? And isn't the founding date of a new chapter marked by the date on which IHQ grants a charter?


They consider themselves to be valid chapters and are in the process of establishing themselves as such with our IHQ.

SAEalumnus 11-18-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by questioner (Post 1745797)

Who are these men?(citation needed)

The Philippine websites list their names as: Benhur R. Patalinghug (their alumni president), Fryle P. Lim (their alumni vice president), Roel G. Zunega Jr (their alumni secretary), Albert A. Suelto (their alumni treasurer), Laong-laan Polinar, Cerilo Ibanez, and Rico Bohol.
Quote:

Originally Posted by DUKyleXY (Post 1745867)
They consider themselves to be valid chapters and are in the process of establishing themselves as such with our IHQ.

Interesting. I guess we'll just have to wait and see the results of DU IHQ's investigation. It just seems to me that they're taking liberties that may ultimately cost them the opportunity to obtain a genuine charter.

BEN HUR 11-28-2008 12:35 PM

TO WHOM THIS MAY CONCERNED
 
AS THE ALUMNI PRES FOR D.U PHILIPPINE CHAPTER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS OUR EXCISTENCE IS CONCERNED YOU MAY ASKED ME IM CURRENTLY BASE IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY U.S.A IM BEN A GEOLOGIST BY PROFFISION.

alumnisec 11-28-2008 06:13 PM

brod benhur I really appreciate that u have come up to this site and had joined also on this forum cause I really waited that by somehow the Philippine chapters will now have a spokeperson to the IHQ if ever they want to meet with you in person.The finalization of our recognition will be after the Board of Directors meeting this coming january 9, 2009 as what the executive director had emailed to me.

About your location there just take charge of the meeting of some chapters whrein you can easily visit them or those chapters that is near your residents in New Jersey.Thanks for joining this forum.

BEN HUR 11-29-2008 11:27 AM

GLAD TO HEAR FORM YOU
 
BRO. IM AM VERY GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU EVENTHOUGH WERE BUSY FROM OUR WORK NOW A DAYS BUT STILL MY HEART BELONGS TO THE FRATERNITY ILL DO MY BEST TO ATTEND THAT MEETING BUT I CANT GARANTE DUE TO MY WORK SCHEDULE BUT I NEED ALL THE INFO. ABOUT THAT MATTER.
THANKS

alumnisec 11-29-2008 12:03 PM

brod your presence in the US will help a lot.Actually I already send to the Executive Director your contact number and email add so that he will also send you some updates after the meeting of the board on January.If ever I could go back to the Philippines next year I probably meet all chapters in our country so that I could share also to them regarding the progress of our affiliation.

alumnisec 12-08-2008 03:41 PM

any idea about pledging?
 
Sorry to ask but as the alumni secretary of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines ,I just want know about the pledging procedures.In the Philippines we do have system also with regards to the acceptance of pledges.

Since we the DU`s working in Saudi Arabia are finding it hard to communicate always to oour brothers in the Philippines,I just want to know or even drop me a private message wherein I am very much interested to know about the way pledgees being accepted by the fraternity.

In the Philippines although absolutely no hazing but pledgees undergo on a 1 month service in order to become an official DU,like helping the fraternity during philantrophic activities like tree planting,mass feeding,clean up drive and others.

Grading system is a must also cause we are aiming for potential members and future leaders.

I would be glad to hear any ideas regarding this matter.Thanks and God bless!!!

alumnisec 12-10-2008 06:31 AM

check out the alumni site
 
Good day!!!

Just want to encourage everyone to visit also our alumni site www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com cause I upload there photos of DU`s who are working the same with me here in Saudi Arabia.

Most probably with the help of DU`s here in Saudi Arabia we will be designing a new website which will be launch next year.It would be www.phildu.org .Am still working with the web host on how much to pay yearly.This will be the official website of all DU`s in the Philippines.

The webiste www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com will be shut down next year if ever we will finish the official site.

Thanks and best regards!!!

Roel Zunega
Alumni Secretary
Delta Upsilon Philippines

alumnisec 12-22-2008 05:47 AM

to all DU`s in North America
 
Please do excuse me for posting your furom since our chapters in the Philippines are still waiting for the final recognition this coming January 9, 2009 as what the executive director had told me.

I just want to take this opportunity to publish our new site and its the website that will carry all the chapters in the Philippines and as well as link all the chapters.

The responsible of making this website is me and other overseas filipino workers who are designated the same with me here in Saudi Arabia.

Please do visit the official website of all chapters in the Philippines.

www.duph.net
We are still looking for additional details we can add on the site but at
least we had establish or finish one. Whatever decisions from the Board although we had know and recieve an email that it is getting positive but still we are hoping that we receive the official recognition.

We the alumni both in the Philippines and as well as working abroad are expressing our love and loyalty to this fraternity and respect whateever decision from the Board of Directors.

Since from the beginning of our affiliation we never try to expand Delta Upsilon without permission and even the alumni from alberta and miami are our witness that they had advice us on how to become a recognize chapter.Without thier replies and advices probably we will not pursue on expanding Delta Upsilon in our country.

alumnisec 01-02-2009 06:08 PM

greekwatch don`t intervene with our application for recognition
 
We are not like any other fraternities who didnt ask for permission in fact we are processing already for the official recognition. Greekwatch please mind your own business cause you don`t know whats going on with our application for recognition.

We the alumni knows already how much to pay and we are willing to spend dollars just to be a recognize chapter.The decision is on the Board only and we respect whatever decisions will be made.

We are willing to close and shut down all chapter in the Philippines of Delta Upsilon if ever we will be disapprove.We love Delta Upsilon but our existence will be judge only after the January 9 , 2009 Leadership Meeting.

Although its getting positive as the Exec Director says on the email ,still we are waiting for the final decision of the Board.

SAEalumnus 01-02-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alumnisec (Post 1760532)
We are not like any other fraternities who didnt ask for permission in fact we are processing already for the official recognition. Greekwatch please mind your own business cause you don`t know whats going on with our application for recognition.

We the alumni knows already how much to pay and we are willing to spend dollars just to be a recognize chapter.The decision is on the Board only and we respect whatever decisions will be made.

We are willing to close and shut down all chapter in the Philippines of Delta Upsilon if ever we will be disapprove.We love Delta Upsilon but our existence will be judge only after the January 9 , 2009 Leadership Meeting.

Although its getting positive as the Exec Director says on the email ,still we are waiting for the final decision of the Board.

QFP

alumnisec 01-02-2009 07:49 PM

Its true SAE Alumnus , I have already discuss all this things to the Exec Director that if ever disapprove ,eventhough its hard to close but we will do it if ever we will be disapprove.

I have discuss already this things to my filipino brothers and they already prepare themselves on the outcome of the decision ,this month of January.

We the DU`s here working in Saudi Arabia always monitor greekchat and whatever things that hurt us we will always ready to defend ourselves as well as the existence of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.

Our alumni president Benhur whos now base in New Jersey working as a geologist are ready to answer questions with regards to the expansion of delta upsilon in our country.And he will be the one to process all the necessary papers and chapter fees if ever we will be recognize.

naraht 01-05-2009 12:59 AM

Comments on some of the other groups where there is a USA group and a Philippines group.

1) Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines is a separate legal entity which was founded with the full knowledge of the United States group (information about them was in the magazine for APO-USA that came out the month after the APO-Phil founding).

2) Alpha Sigma Phi of the Philippines had its first chapter in 1959, formed as a national organization in 1972 and formed an international council with the ASPhi-USA in 1984.

3) Phi Beta Kappa is in the process of taking legal action in the Philippines to force the group in the Philippines to disband.

At least one of the others that is a social greek (I don't remember which off the top of my head), the group in the Philippines has both brothers and sisters, which makes affiliation with the group in the USA just about impossible.

As best as I can tell, the Delta Upsilon effort in the Philippines is pretty new (within the last 5 years) and while not following the rules for expansion the way that they should be followed within North America, seem to be playing it fairly straight. While I *personally* think that a separate National Organization like ASPhi and APO would be better than trying to make a region of them in the same Organization, I do hope that things work out for the best.

Sincerely

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega Alumnus and
Wikipedian attempting to keep make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...he_Philippines a better page.

BEN HUR 01-05-2009 02:35 PM

TO GREEKWATCH
 
Base on what you have posted here it sems you have undermined us, and the effort that we exert in this matter. Are you trying to say that its about money of whom could just afford? are you aware of the basic foundation of this brotherhood, ITS ALL ABOUT VERTUE AND CHARACTER Body not money..Im working here in states as a exploration geologist for an oil corp. and i have lots of people working under me and i know very well what would be ther income, so dont let me think that you dont know what your talking about..

alumnisec 01-05-2009 07:40 PM

Excuse us for posting here but we just have to defend ourselves
 
Nahrat for your information we have done 20 things in bringing DU to the campus , and we never did try to establish Delta Upsilon without permission.It just so happened that all of us the pioneers in the Philippines are already alumni and because we try to work abroad thats why we didn`t process the recognition consistently.

Before I was in Singapore working as data controller and now I`m here in Riyadh, KSA working as Department Manager.We are seeking also our future therefore applying for recognition to our chapters in the Philippines wasn`t that easy until in 2008 last year that our brothers in the Philippines had called us and inform that Delta Upsilon is getting strong in our country so I decided and all the alumni decided to pursue the application for recognition.

Don`t compare our affiliation with APO-Phil and Alphasig-Phil cause in the past there wasn`t internet as you know and the process of applying for recognition before can`t be done by emails instead by personal visit only.Unlike now, that I do have contact with the Exec Director and I keep on sending emails to him and as well as informing me that the final decision will be on this coming January 9 ,2009.As a matter of fact we are still under investigation and last October 23-26 ,2008 if am not mistaken during the Board of Directors meeting our chapters had been discuss and included in the agenda.

Honestly, am a fratman in college ,two time member of different fraternities , I decided to quit cause i really hate hazing !!!!I was even the president of these fraternities until times comes that I finish college that I decided to leave the fraternity.

About APO and ALPHASIG they are great fraternities in the Philippines ,in fact most politicians are APO member.With regards to Alpha Sigma Phi I know a lot about the history of this fraternity here in the Philippines ,its right that in 1984 the ties between ASP-USA and ASP-Phil was done.Indeed, one representative from the Philippines ,the late Atty. Leandro Echavez was the father of my soon to be wife.And even her is also a member of Alpha Sigma Phi.The only difference of ASP-USA and ASP-Phil is that USA is exlcusive for men only or shall we say fraternity while in the Philippines its COED or both men and women can joined the group.

I just want to say something to some people who will gonna post again and still continue to put us down all I can say is that please give us some space cause we don`t disturb u nor we mind your business!!!!!!

alumnisec 01-05-2009 07:55 PM

DU in the Philippines are registered in respective universities only
 
About the list of organizations that nahrat has post ,Delta Upsilon wasn`t included on the list coz we are still waiting for the final approval of the official recognition if ever we will be accepted and be a part of the International.

The list of fraternities present there are the fraternities registered in the Securities and Exchange Commission of the Philippines.If ever we will be officially recognize ,by the time of my vacation this May to the Philippines I will registered the fraternity to the government agency and that is the Securities and Exchange Commission.

We need legal documents and official recognition in order for us to register in SEC Philippines.

naraht 01-06-2009 10:26 AM

Not trying to put you down...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alumnisec (Post 1761491)
Nahrat for your information we have done 20 things in bringing DU to the campus , and we never did try to establish Delta Upsilon without permission.It just so happened that all of us the pioneers in the Philippines are already alumni and because we try to work abroad thats why we didn`t process the recognition consistently.

Before I was in Singapore working as data controller and now I`m here in Riyadh, KSA working as Department Manager.We are seeking also our future therefore applying for recognition to our chapters in the Philippines wasn`t that easy until in 2008 last year that our brothers in the Philippines had called us and inform that Delta Upsilon is getting strong in our country so I decided and all the alumni decided to pursue the application for recognition.

Don`t compare our affiliation with APO-Phil and Alphasig-Phil cause in the past there wasn`t internet as you know and the process of applying for recognition before can`t be done by emails instead by personal visit only.Unlike now, that I do have contact with the Exec Director and I keep on sending emails to him and as well as informing me that the final decision will be on this coming January 9 ,2009.As a matter of fact we are still under investigation and last October 23-26 ,2008 if am not mistaken during the Board of Directors meeting our chapters had been discuss and included in the agenda.

Honestly, am a fratman in college ,two time member of different fraternities , I decided to quit cause i really hate hazing !!!!I was even the president of these fraternities until times comes that I finish college that I decided to leave the fraternity.

About APO and ALPHASIG they are great fraternities in the Philippines ,in fact most politicians are APO member.With regards to Alpha Sigma Phi I know a lot about the history of this fraternity here in the Philippines ,its right that in 1984 the ties between ASP-USA and ASP-Phil was done.Indeed, one representative from the Philippines ,the late Atty. Leandro Echavez was the father of my soon to be wife.And even her is also a member of Alpha Sigma Phi.The only difference of ASP-USA and ASP-Phil is that USA is exlcusive for men only or shall we say fraternity while in the Philippines its COED or both men and women can joined the group.

I just want to say something to some people who will gonna post again and still continue to put us down all I can say is that please give us some space cause we don`t disturb u nor we mind your business!!!!!!


I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

In many ways your proposed affiliation is somewhat between those of Alpha Phi Omega than Alpha Sigma Phi.

For Alpha Phi Omega, the difference in time between brothers being initiated in the Philippines (March 1950) and acceptance of this fact by the North American Fraternity was a matter of months and *that* delay was mostly waiting for the next National Convention (December 1950). Alpha Phi Omega's National Board was kept informed during the entire process. While relations were informally suspended after the Ferdinand Tabtab situation, there was *never* a feeling that the group in the Philippines was in any way illegally using any symbols. (See http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=articles&cmd=view&id=72) (I'm on both Alpha Phi Omega national History and Archives Committee and on the International Relations Committee)

For Alpha Sigma Phi, I haven't any information to indicate that Alpha Sigma Phi in North America was aware of the founding of Alpha Sigma Phi in the Philippines, in fact given that the first two chapters in the Philippines which were founded in 1959 and 1965 were not themselves merged into a single national organization until 1972, I would be surprised if the North American brothers were aware prior to that time.

I would frankly *love* to see Delta Upsilon in the Philippines in affiliation with Delta Upsilon of North America. However, due to differences in standard of living *and* the college life between North America and the Philippines, that requirements that make sense in one may not make sense in the other. For this reason, I think that an international affiliation of the form of Alpha Phi Omega or Alpha Sigma Phi would be superior to that of becoming a province of Delta Upsilon of North America. Having said that, becoming a province would be massively superior to the current situation.

naraht 01-06-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alumnisec (Post 1761495)
About the list of organizations that nahrat has post ,Delta Upsilon wasn`t included on the list coz we are still waiting for the final approval of the official recognition if ever we will be accepted and be a part of the International.

The list of fraternities present there are the fraternities registered in the Securities and Exchange Commission of the Philippines.If ever we will be officially recognize ,by the time of my vacation this May to the Philippines I will registered the fraternity to the government agency and that is the Securities and Exchange Commission.

We need legal documents and official recognition in order for us to register in SEC Philippines.

I didn't include Delta Upsilon in that listing because the situation is currently in flux. (Frankly, I'd be surprised if things could be *totally* sorted out on January 9th, everything I've seen proposed would seem to require that the change would be "ratified" by a change of the bylaws by the Delta Upsilon Convention.)

I'm not sure that any list exists of all of the groups registered by the SEC. The one mentioned here that is on scribed is originally from Wikipedia (I created that wikipedia page in the first place) (Can't find the post in this thread :( )and I barely knew about the SEC at the time. I have added Delta Upsilon to that page on Wikipedia now.

In regards to that, are familiar with a group called Delta Gamma Beta? They are a Philippine group that listed themselves on the Wikipedia page with their International affiliation being that of Delta Upsilon. Are they an affiliated Sorority to Delta Upsilon in the Philippines or something similar?

I'd *love* to be able to get an official list of Fraternities and Sororities that have registered with the SEC, any ideas how to get such a list?

SAEalumnus 01-06-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1761669)
I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

This is not correct. The seven "pioneers" as they term themselves obtained DU's ritual online and initiated themselves. They were students from the Philippines who are now alumni from the Philippines. No one from DU in North America participated in their "initiation."


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