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BetteDavisEyes 09-09-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1715287)
The second largest city in Alaska has about 30,000, including the service members and their families at Ft. Wainwright. The Fairbanks North Star Borough has about 85,000.

Not sure where you're getting 9,000 as the second largest city :confused: Anchorage is the largest city with over 300,000 in the municipality. Even Juneau has a bigger population than 9,000.


I misquoted as I was just remembering off the top of my head. Watch the link to get the information then you can argue it.

nittanyalum 09-09-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1715178)
I can't bring myself to watch the Daily Show link.

How very fair and balanced of you.
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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1715183)
Actually, it's other members of the GOP on the Daily Show link. It's quite funny b/c at one point, one member of the GOP is knocking a Democrat for holding the office at a tiny city with slightly over 100,000 people in it yet he then praises Palin for running the 2nd largest city in Alaska with slightly over 9,000 people. It's not about her hypocrisy. It's about the hypocrisy of members of the GOP.

It was Karl Rove and the city in question (Richmond) has pop. of about 200K, not 100K.

UGAalum94 09-09-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1715300)
How very fair and balanced of you.

It was Karl Rove and the city in question (Richmond) has pop. of about 200K, not 100K.

I have an obligation to watch the Daily Show?

The Daily Show is political entertainment. I don't find it entertaining so why would I watch it?

It's just kind of "Oooh, Republicans, burn" kind of humor. Perhaps if Obama wins, I will find new enjoyment, who knows?

(It's not like I'm Rush, Fox, O'Reilly-ing it up either.)

ETA: Only because you threw out Fair and Balanced, do you really imagine that a comparable clip couldn't be put together with Democrats, maybe on the topic of the value of experience or women in positions of authority?

VandalSquirrel 09-09-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1715296)
I misquoted as I was just remembering off the top of my head. Watch the link to get the information then you can argue it.

I'm not arguing it, I was trying to figure out which city you were talking about as even Wasilla doens't have a population of 9,000. If that link is wrong that's sad, but if you made a typing error that's okay, it happens.

nittanyalum 09-09-2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1715306)
I have an obligation to watch the Daily Show?

The Daily Show is political entertainment. I don't find it entertaining so why would I watch it?

It's just kind of "Oooh, Republicans, burn" kind of humor. Perhaps if Obama wins, I will find new enjoyment, who knows?

(It's not like I'm Rush, Fox, O'Reilly-ing it up either.)

ETA: Only because you threw out Fair and Balanced, do you really imagine that a comparable clip couldn't be put together with Democrats, maybe on the topic of the value of experience or women in positions of authority?

I didn't say you have to watch the Daily Show, but if you're going to weigh in on every single post that comes across, maybe you'd make some effort to expose yourself to more opinions, influences, sources. Yes, I think that link exposes some critical HYPOCRISY (which you and the KSigs have made big points about this evening) on the GOP side which might explain why many of us who are not pro-Palin have good reason to pshaw at all the spin and grin coming from the McCain camp. Saying you "just can't bring yourself" to watch it is dismissively rigid. Maybe you'd actually learn something if not from then maybe about another point of view? The fact that you think it's all "ooh, Republicans, burn" humor speaks to your lack of familiarity and understanding.

UGAalum94 09-09-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1715316)
I didn't say you have to watch the Daily Show, but if you're going to weigh in on every single post that comes across, maybe you'd make some effort to expose yourself to more opinions, influences, sources. Yes, I think that link exposes some critical HYPOCRISY (which you and the KSigs have made big points about this evening) on the GOP side which might explain why many of us who are not pro-Palin have good reason to pshaw at all the spin and grin coming from the McCain camp. Saying you "just can't bring yourself" to watch it is dismissively rigid. Maybe you'd actually learn something if not from then maybe about another point of view? The fact that you think it's all "ooh, Republicans, burn" humor speaks to your lack of familiarity and understanding.

Really? I did?

As I said, if I had enjoyed the Daily Show when I watched it, I would be a regular viewer. I didn't, so I'm not. I don't need to see a string of Republicans contradicting themselves. It's not at all surprising, educational, or entertaining that they would do so. It's just the way stuff goes in a two party, highly partisan system.

What I wanted to point out was that Palin herself hadn't yet played that game.

nittanyalum 09-09-2008 10:26 PM

I don't know what game you're referring to, but really, I don't care at this point. You are obviously a huge Palin fan and that's super, I can't fathom your viewpoint and I'm sure you can't fathom mine, so let's just KIM.

UGAalum94 09-09-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1715322)
I don't know what game you're referring to, but really, I don't care at this point. You are obviously a huge Palin fan and that's super, I can't fathom your viewpoint and I'm sure you can't fathom mine, so let's just KIM.

The game of expecting kid gloves or claiming sexism.

nittanyalum 09-09-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1715325)
The game of expecting kid gloves or claiming sexism.

She personally didn't have to because the entire McCain campaign team did it for her (along with all the right-wing talking heads) while keeping her carefully scripted and away from the media when the firestorm first hit.

ETA: And wait, when did I make an issue out of saying Palin was playing "a game" like that? You have me confused with another poster.

UGAalum94 09-09-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1715327)
She personally didn't have to because the entire McCain campaign team did it for her (along with all the right-wing talking heads) while keeping her carefully scripted and away from the media when the firestorm first hit.

ETA: And wait, when did I make an issue out of saying Palin was playing "a game" like that? You have me confused with another poster.

No, I think I introduced into this thread calling this particular hypocrisy a game.

All I ask it that it be a good for the goose kind of thing. We can attribute everything that happens for Palin as a result of her team as long as we hold Obama/Biden to the same standard.

Kevin 09-09-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1715130)
yeah it's allllll the media's fault that they are reporting on stuff that they think we should know :rolleyes: It's all the media's fault.. they are just pickin on her b/c she's a woman !!1!!:mad:



:p

No, it's the lack of context.

Did the story mention that she billed about 450K less than her predecessor? That might be kind of important.

AGDee 09-09-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1715166)

As an aside, I think it is far more of a theft of taxpayer's money when sitting, oh, I don't know, SENATORS, are off on the campaign trail and not working - yet still collect their pay. It's one reason I think the campaign season should be streamlined.

I would love it if the campaign season was streamlined. However, the trend still seems to be going the other way. I can't think of a candidate, other than Ross Perot, who wasn't a current politician and placed in this position. It stinks though.

UGAalum94 09-09-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1715374)
I would love it if the campaign season was streamlined. However, the trend still seems to be going the other way. I can't think of a candidate, other than Ross Perot, who wasn't a current politician and placed in this position. It stinks though.

How would you do it, especially with the sort of mind-boggling amounts of money they have to raise to even be competitive in the primaries?

It sounds like a great idea, but how?

AGDee 09-09-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1715376)
How would you do it, especially with the sort of mind-boggling amounts of money they have to raise to even be competitive in the primaries?

It sounds like a great idea, but how?

Well, I have problems with how much money is spent on these things too. How many hungry people could be fed with that money instead? There was a time when the candidate was actually determined AT the convention... what a concept, eh?

awkward1 09-09-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1715365)
No, it's the lack of context.

Did the story mention that she billed about 450K less than her predecessor? That might be kind of important.

Ditto. Not to mention that her official home as Governor of Alaska is the governors mansion in Juneau, so when she works out of the Anchorage office but commutes to her other home in Wasilla she is actually saving the state a whole lot of money on hotel and food expenses. It takes about 45 minutes to travel from Anch. to Wasilla without traffic, during rush hour obviously much more time. I'd say the per diem is fairly hers and I think that if there was a problem then Alaskans would be the first to speak up about it. Again, someone making a mountain out of a molehill. Also, kudos to the poster who got their geography right; Wasilla is NOT the 2nd largest city in Alaska, not even close. Perhaps the MatSu borough is the second largest borough in the state but I cannot swear to that, I am only guessing at how this 'fact' was arrived at.


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