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I wonder which sororities will be invited to make presentations....delta zeta colonized in 2004 and I remember phi mu presenting that year.
My guess would be phi mu will try again. my other guesses are aopi and pi beta phi...but who knows!? |
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At one time I'd heard through the grapevine that we weren't interested in trying to recolonize at either school anytime soon. Things weren't "right" at the moment for Pi Phi back around the time Clemson added DG and USC added Gamma Phi. That was a while back though. Our previous Grand President, Sis Mullis, was from one of the SC chapters. USC I believe. Personally I would love love love Pi Phi to recolonize at either school. Don't know if it's in the cards though. |
Of course I would love to see Sigma there. I don't know how possible it is since it would take a LOT of resources (and we've got Mizzou going right now). We do have 4 chapters in the state at some smaller schools (Winthrop, Presbyterian, Newberry, Coastal Carolina) though and one more would be nice.
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I know that SC is also discussing expansion right now. No idea who is actually presenting, I'm certain it hasn't been finalized yet. I have heard rumors of DG or Theta possibly recolonizing. Also heard Phi Mu is in the mix....
I believe the plan is to add multiple chapters over the next few years, it's tricky at USC because there are currently no lots left in the Greek Village. Whoever comes to campus will need a location to build (in order to be competitive with the other groups), and IMO more than one sorority needs to be in the new location. There are 2-3 fraternities also waiting on the new location, and at least one of those is ready to build as soon as they get a lot. Since building houses in 2003, recruitment numbers have almost doubled and chapter sizes have done the same. It will be interesting to what happens over the next few years. I hope 2-3 more groups can successfully colonize and ultimately build at USC, I think it would be great for the greek system. |
Clemson Recruitment
What is frustrating is the difference in the handling of GLOs between Clemson and USC. At Clemson, the sororities have difficulty with meeting and recruitment spaces, lack support in simple things like not holding fire drills during recruitment event times, get promises of new housing and meetings spaces numerous times and then having it come to naught. At USC the U plowed down a huge area for the Greek Village, sounds like they will do more of the same to expand the Village, are actively recruiting and supporting the GLOs. Hard to reconcile the differences - of course it is two universities with different boards, but still . . .
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It took years (10 or more) to nail down the final plan for Greek Housing at USC. I know when I was at Carolina we changed location and actual housing plans 3 times. I am thrilled with the end result, the Greek Village is gorgeous and has improved Greek Life at USC substantially. It was a tough road to get there though. I didn't realize how much the Greek organizations at Clemson struggle with the university for support. I was under the impression that their ultimate goal was to move to houses or new meeting facilities. With such huge groups you would think the University would put more of a priority in meeting their needs! I can't imagine fire drills DURING recruitment parties, what a nightmare. Before USC had houses we were able to hold recruitment events in the press boxes and scholarship lounges at the football stadium (which was a very cool location!) Meeting rooms on campus were always available by reservation to accommodate chapter meetings and other events.
I will be excited to see what groups make presentations and are selected to colonize at both Clemson and USC. |
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And what exactly makes that difficult to figure out????:rolleyes: As you say, they are two different universities with two different governing bodies so it shouldn't be at all surprising that they would have different opinions. |
From irishpipes' thread:
Clemson University Clemson, SC: August 20-27, 2008 Quota=54 Campus Total=172 Quota last year=46 *************** Delta Delta Delta Beta Theta 1970 (55) Kappa Kappa Gamma Epsilon Mu 1970 (55) Chi Omega Psi Kappa 1970 (54) Kappa Alpha Theta Delta Phi 1972 (68) Alpha Delta Pi Zeta Nu 1976 (54) Pi Beta Phi South Carolina Beta 1976-? Kappa Delta Epsilon Tau 1980 (60) Delta Gamma Epsilon Kappa 1981-2003 Alpha Chi Omega Theta Lambda 1985 (61) Gamma Phi Beta Epsilon Theta 1988 (62 64?) Zeta Tau Alpha Kappa Zeta 1990 (59) Alpha Gamma Delta Theta Xi 1994-2000 Delta Zeta Pi Epsilon 2004 (58) University of South Carolina Columbia, SC: August 17-24, 2008 Quota=77 Campus Total= Quota last year=71 Registered PNMs=1,105 ****************** Alpha Delta Pi Beta Epsilon 1928 Delta Delta Delta Alpha Lambda 1928 (82) Delta Zeta Beta Delta 1928 (78) Chi Omega Eta Gamma 1928 Zeta Tau Alpha Beta Omicron 1929 Pi Beta Phi South Carolina Alpha 1931-1985 Sigma Kappa Beta Beta 1932-1936 Alpha Omicron Pi Delta Phi 1933-1937/1978-1983 Kappa Delta Beta Zeta 1940 Alpha Epsilon Phi Alpha Pi 1945-1978 Sigma Delta Tau Alpha Kappa 1957-1962 Kappa Kappa Gamma Epsilon Kappa 1967 (82) Sigma Sigma Sigma Delta Kappa 1977-1983 Delta Gamma Epsilon Chi 1985-2003 Alpha Chi Omega Theta Upsilon 1987 Kappa Alpha Theta Zeta Kappa 1990-2001 Gamma Phi Beta Zeta Sigma 2004 Geez. USC especially does not look like an easy place to colonize. I learned something new today - I had no idea Pi Phi had an early short-lived chapter at Charleston Southern/Baptist College. Does that institution still exist? Interestingly, it's not SC Alpha so it must be a lost designation from before we switched to the current naming system... I'll have to research that one a bit. |
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Yes Charleston Southern still exists. They have greek life, but strangely it looks like they have no chapters of members of the national panhellenic council even though they do have national fraternities and members of the NPHC. Here is a link to their student life page: http://www.csuniv.edu/campuslife/clubs_org.asp
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I would love to see Tri Sigma colonize at Clemson. I know that we have Mizzou going on, but that should be done by next year. Also though our SC chapters are at smaller schools, their numbers are strong. Hmmm...
Anyway, whatever sorority gets asked to colonize at Clemson will be very lucky! As a sidenote - I thought that Clemson sororities had housing. That's crazy that such large chapters would not have housing offered by the University. |
Clemson has housing, just not "houses". They have floors of dorms.
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I was copied on an email yesterday that said that Phi Mu would be presenting at Clemson.
It is almost impossible to colonize on a campus that has beautiful new houses like USC unless there is a house that can be leased for several years...coming up with millions of dollars to build a house is too much of a gamble for most of our GLOs (at least mine!). This is one of the main reasons schools like Ole Miss are not opening up for extension...because there are no empty houses for anyone to lease and no place on campus to build a new house. |
Gamma Phi has done incredibly well since colonizing at USC in 2004. They somehow managed to raise funds to build a gorgeous house worth nearly $2,000,000 that opened in the Fall of 2007. I believe another chapter (or two) will see their success and know that it can be done and will be willing to consider colonizing at USC.
Since Phi Mu is presenting at Clemson I doubt they would make a presentation at USC as well. When I hear who does I will update. |
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