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SWTXBelle 08-05-2008 10:23 AM

Maybe they could simply drug his Twinkies and Ho-Hos?

nittanyalum 08-05-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1691050)
Maybe they could simply drug his Twinkies and Ho-Hos?

L. O. L.

kstar 08-05-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AXi1257 (Post 1690880)
It's not that difficult to place a central line for IV access. Yeah it has to be an MD to place the line, but it can be done very easily. As for the medication issue, I'm sure that won't hold up either. If it does then everyone on death row is going to get fat and use the same excuse.

Most physicians will have nothing to do with that because of their "do no harm" clause.

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl
Yes, we have heard this one before. It would be inhumane. Yadda yadda yadda. Was it uncruel and usual what you did to your victim?

Maybe because we're supposed better and more humane than a murderer? It makes us no better than him if we make him suffer, though we're no better than him in putting him to death anyways. Personally I think any form of capital punishment is barbarous, and most of the civilized world agrees, but apparently not the Supreme Court.

nittanyalum 08-05-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1691085)
Most physicians will have nothing to do with that because of their "do no harm" clause.

Isn't Kevorkian looking for work?
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Personally I think any form of capital punishment is barbarous, and most of the civilized world agrees, but apparently not the Supreme Court.
Or me.

socialite 08-05-2008 01:09 PM

It sounds to me like an elephant tranquilizer could just put this whole problem to a screeching halt...

Seriously, if they're worried that the anethsetic will not properly function why can't they use something more strong or 'effective'?

PeppyGPhiB 08-05-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1690845)
I'm sure there's some gallows sturdy enough to hold him.

We still have hanging here in my state (last one was in 1993). But a prisoner won a hearing years ago to have his death sentence by hanging changed to lethal injection because at more than 400 lbs. medical advisors said he would be decapitated.

DSTCHAOS 08-05-2008 02:17 PM

In all seriousness, I take a Michel Foucault approach to punishment. I don't believe in cruel and unusual punishments. Such actions on the part of the state undermine the roles of institution of formal social control and punishment.

If the man is found to be medically incapable of lethal injection, they need to make adjustments. If he's just trying to get out of it and he's capable of lethal injection, stick it to him.

Elephant Walk 08-05-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1691149)
In all seriousness, I take a Michel Foucault approach to punishment. I don't believe in cruel and unusual punishments. Such actions on the part of the state undermine the roles of institution of formal social control and punishment.

If the man is found to be medically incapable of lethal injection, they need to make adjustments. If he's just trying to get out of it and he's capable of lethal injection, stick it to him.

Y'all have to watch this from The Onion:

"Supreme Court rules death penalty is totally badass"

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide..._death_penalty

honeychile 08-05-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1691136)
We still have hanging here in my state (last one was in 1993). But a prisoner won a hearing years ago to have his death sentence by hanging changed to lethal injection because at more than 400 lbs. medical advisors said he would be decapitated.

Isn't that what happened to Saddam's brother?

MysticCat 08-05-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1691085)
Most physicians will have nothing to do with that because of their "do no harm" clause.

Yeah, selective citation of the Hippocratic Oath, although I'm not sure where you get "most." That "do no harm" stuff doesn't seem to bother lots of doctors when it comes to abortion. (Nor, for that matter, does that specific line in the Hippocratic Oath, now usually left out altogether: "I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy.")

I know that there are medical baords that say they cannot allow doctors to participate in executions because it would violate medical ethics. I also know that there have been court decisions saying that if the state requires the presence of a doctor, the medical board can't discipline the doctor for doing what the law requires.

KSigkid 08-05-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1691167)
Isn't that what happened to Saddam's brother?

His half-brother's head reportedly snapped off during the execution; here's a CNN report on it: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I'm anti-capital punishment (yes, anti-death penalty Republicans do exist), so this story doesn't bother me quite as much. Although, I think eating yourself out of an execution is an interesting strategy.

barbino 08-05-2008 02:55 PM

I laughed at this. He did the deed so he has to pay for his crime, no matter how fat he is now.
MysticCat, is his lawyers defense valid? I served on a jury for the first time recently, and suddenly have this newfound curiosity for all finer points of law. Having someone's future put into your hands (shared by 12 others) is a very daunting task. I hardly slept the night before we had to deliberate.:)

Still BLUTANG 08-05-2008 03:00 PM

stupid question: how do people get fat in prison? i thought meals and such were limited.

DaemonSeid 08-05-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG (Post 1691173)
stupid question: how do people get fat in prison? i thought meals and such were limited.

He got fat by blowing Bubbles.

Kevlar281 08-05-2008 05:02 PM

Time to dust off Old Sparky.


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