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I understand being passionate about a candidate, and really buying into his/her message. What I don't understand, though, is the creation of a halo effect around Obama, and the indignation some people have towards anyone who would dare question his policies. |
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Oh and I know people who will talk about how Obama has probably had to play the politics game but these people say he's doing what needs to be done for the necessary change. That spin is amazing. It's "whatever means necessary" if one candidate plays politics and may have to be less forthcoming with info. Aren't lies and withholding info part of what pissed Americans off about this war? Slipper slope alert. |
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People can be pretty myopic when it comes to "their" candidate. |
mccain's champaign ran,as a paid commercial about 12 times, an ad criticizing obama for not visiting troops while on his recent overseas trip. it was run free as a news story over a hundred times. the minor problem is that it is not accurate; it is an attack ad. and it has not always been corrected. and people are taking it a hard face value. and it seems to be running and showing despite champaign's pledge not to run attack ads. the criticisms and accusations have even been part of a chain email. which made an appearance here in greek chat.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072902286.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us...er&oref=slogin |
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Also, you'll notice that we haven't been saying that it's an issue with ALL Democrats, just Obama supporters (who could be Democrat, Republican, or whatever). I know many Democrats who aren't happy with Obama, or his platform. So, nice try in attempting to make this as a partisan thing but it's not. |
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The Obama Messiah phenomena is about timing, because people are desperately looking for something better, and about what people think change looks like. What better way to symbolize change than to have a charismatic, well-spoken, accomplished, and well-mannered (read: "not like the others" and "not how we're used to seeing 'them'" and "not a loud Reverend like Jesse Jackson") black man who people around the world are going googoo over. I don't think it holds much substance below the surface, but on the surface it makes America and the world look like a great deal of change is on its way. None of what I typed makes any of this any less humorous, of course. |
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There were a few Bush loyalists, absolutely - but I think (outside of the time right around 9/11, and that small group of loyalists lasting to today), that he had far more detractors, and that his following paled in comparison to Obama's current following. If nothing else, Bush's spending while in office alienated a large portion of the Republican party early on. I see what you're saying, and I agree with almost all of it - I just don't think (again, outside of the time around 9/11) that the support for Bush ever reached that "Messiah" level. Maybe that's because I never fully embraced his Presidency myself, who knows. |
I hear what you're saying and don't really disagree. :)
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Bush never represented hope and change and that was never his platform, aside from 9/11 as you said. However, when 9/11 came around he never had a chance to make that about him--maybe because he seems kind of like a socially inept dork who lacks charisma. It was always about GOD/National prayer, the people who lost their lives, and the terrorists. Poor Bush couldn't be the Messiah and effectively say "I am so cool and I will....." :) |
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I've seen the past few elections as a race between the lesser of two evils -- but in the case of Bush, II, I just never trusted him. Easy as that. But no group or candidate is free of your teflon analogy within their own circle of supporters. |
perhaps going back to the op, while mccain seems to say at every possible moment that he is against any and all new taxes, his actions and deeds seem to indicate other wise http://www.slate.com/id/2196336/
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Now, I expect all this mud slinging mumbo jumbo from the campaigns and the fundraisers and the protesters, etc... But all this coming straight from McCain's mouth... the guy who one the republican nomination by saying he will run a high-minded campaign... |
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and for those here who may not know of a rather well known non-political fact check site http://factcheck.org/ check out just how they take apart the ads that mccain is so proud of. as well as other ads. added: i just heard that mccains group has a new ad out with obama and charles heston. mccain claims that they are just having fun and sees nothing wrong with ad campaign. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-5NLDM26_4 It reminded me of a stereotypical church video... kind of like the Cruise Scientology one or the late night informercials. The video has this mockery of him being the messiah, but its whole point in the end is asking if he is ready to lead, which is weird, because the video does not sell this question. This was probably done by some campaign aide, and not someone who is involved with the PR of the campaign. |
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