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breathesgelatin 07-20-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1683865)
Some of the advice here would be good advice at a different campus, but remember that IU does not use a quota system. Because of this, many PNMs do go bidless. (I don't know if it is 700, but it is an issue.) The number of bids issued is not proportional to the number of PNMs.

Do they have a bed rush there?

pinksirfidel 07-20-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1683974)
Do they have a bed rush there?

What's that?

Xidelt 07-20-2008 04:56 PM

yes, i think IU has a bed rush. that's where chapter total is determined by the number of women that can live-in at the house. so the number of empty beds = the size of your new member class.

breathesgelatin 07-20-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1683975)
What's that?

Something a few campuses have; I believe Nebraska has it. In this system, each sorority only accepts as many members as they have empty beds in their house. It tends to lead to a lot of women not getting bids during formal recruitment.

pinksirfidel 07-20-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1683978)
Something a few campuses have; I believe Nebraska has it. In this system, each sorority only accepts as many members as they have empty beds in their house. It tends to lead to a lot of women not getting bids during formal recruitment.

Really? I have never heard about this! I would be interested in hearing from a member of a sorority who does this. How many "empty beds" could a house have? My SEC chapter had a waiting list of girls wanting to live in the house every year. If this was the same case at a "bed rush" school, would they simply not participate in rush?

tld221 07-20-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ta kala (Post 1683981)
I attended IU's recruitment this past spring and I believe that the number of women not placed after preference was more in 100+ range - not 700.

OH well that makes a difference...

Xidelt 07-20-2008 05:46 PM

take a look at the size of the chapter houses on the IU sorority websites. they look HUGE to me! Like they house more than just 40-50 girls, which seems to be about the size of the houses where I went to school.

kreich 07-20-2008 06:03 PM

I attended IU's recruitment this past spring and I believe that the number of women not placed after preference was more in 100+ range - not 700.

The 700 figure that she stated was not after preference. I'm sure it was based on the comparison between the number of women who register for recruitment in the Fall semester and the number of women who were placed at the end of recruitment. Unless things are different than they used to be, 1/3 - 1/2 of the women who walk through the doors at 19-party will not join a house in January whether it is because they don't return for the remainder of recruitment, drop out during recruitment week, or don't get a bid after preference night.

take a look at the size of the chapter houses on the IU sorority websites. they look HUGE to me! Like they house more than just 40-50 girls, which seems to be about the size of the houses where I went to school.

Over 100. The year I was a senior they added onto our house and instituted a "no live-out" policy, which meant that anyone already living out had to move back in. There were over 100 active members.

pinksirfidel 07-20-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kreich (Post 1683996)

Over 100. The year I was a senior they added onto our house and instituted a "no live-out" policy, which meant that anyone already living out had to move back in. There were over 100 active members.

Wowsers!

ta kala 07-20-2008 11:00 PM

The 700 figure that she stated was not after preference. I'm sure it was based on the comparison between the number of women who register for recruitment in the Fall semester and the number of women who were placed at the end of recruitment. Unless things are different than they used to be, 1/3 - 1/2 of the women who walk through the doors at 19-party will not join a house in January whether it is because they don't return for the remainder of recruitment, drop out during recruitment week, or don't get a bid after preference night.

I know the OP was talking about total, but there is a huge difference between looking at the total number of PNMs withdrawn/not matched and looking at the number of PNMs withdrawn/not matched after preference. I was clarifying that the 700 was not the number after preference.

kreich 07-20-2008 11:03 PM

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I know the OP was talking about total, but there is a huge difference between looking at the total number of PNMs withdrawn/not matched and looking at the number of PNMs withdrawn/not matched after preference. I was clarifying that the 700 was not the number after preference.
Ah. Gotcha. Yes. Sorry that I didn't understand.

33girl 07-20-2008 11:06 PM

The reason the NPC groups who aren't at IU aren't there is because they don't have the mucho deneiro it takes to come onto campus and build a house comparable to the other ones. So OP, if you have that mucho deneiro and want to call the NPC groups that aren't there up and tell them you're going to build them a house, go for it.

breathesgelatin 07-21-2008 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1684096)
The reason the NPC groups who aren't at IU aren't there is because they don't have the mucho deneiro it takes to come onto campus and build a house comparable to the other ones. So OP, if you have that mucho deneiro and want to call the NPC groups that aren't there up and tell them you're going to build them a house, go for it.

LOL.

Random question: Let's say an extremely rich alum wanted to do just this. Build a house for their sorority at an ultra-competitive or huge state campus, and then turn it over to the local house corporation. Has anyone ever heard of this occurring before, or of a sorority accepting such an offer?

I'm sure it's happened before with groups of alums sponsoring a house, I'm just wondering about a single-donor situation.

couggirl 07-22-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1684143)
LOL.

Random question: Let's say an extremely rich alum wanted to do just this. Build a house for their sorority at an ultra-competitive or huge state campus, and then turn it over to the local house corporation. Has anyone ever heard of this occurring before, or of a sorority accepting such an offer?

I'm sure it's happened before with groups of alums sponsoring a house, I'm just wondering about a single-donor situation.

Paul Allen built his unhoused fraternity a hugh house at WSU, but they were on campus and unhoused for a while. i know this is not the same, but it does happen.

SigKapCoug 07-22-2008 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by couggirl (Post 1684543)
Paul Allen built his unhoused fraternity a hugh house at WSU, but they were on campus and unhoused for a while. i know this is not the same, but it does happen.

And they are now referred to as "Paul Allen House," haha! It's Phi Kappa Theta, I believe?


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