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jon1856 07-17-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1682503)
I could see them giving Ledger the Oscar for just that reason; it would be a way for them to make even more of a spectacle out of the ceremony. Or maybe I'm just being really cynical.

If I remember correctly, the only actor to have died before his Oscar win was Peter Finch from "Network." I may be forgetting someone, though.

In terms of who would accept the award, I would think Michelle Williams would be the best choice.

As for movies that were almost as good as the books: "The Natural" was almost as good as the book (even though the endings and messages were completely different). "Atonement" also was an excellent movie based off a very good book. "Silence of the Lambs" was a case where I liked the movie better than the book.

Have not found details yet but this is sort of interesting:
"if he earns a nomination, he’ll be the seventh (and second-youngest, after James Dean) actor in if he earns a nomination, he’ll be the seventh (and second-youngest, after James Dean) actor in Oscar history ever to get a posthumous nod."
Just found it: Peter Finch only one who won the statue.

Along with Finch, past posthumous Oscar contenders include James Dean, who was nominated for best actor twice after his death, with 1955's "East of Eden" and 1956's "Giant." The other actors nominated after their deaths were Spencer Tracy (1967's "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"); Ralph Richardson (1984's "Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes"); Massimo Troisi (1995's "The Postman"); and Jeanne Eagels (1929's "The Letter").

And the nominations fall on the one year anniversary of his death.

We will have to wait for moe.ron's report in the AM.

PeppyGPhiB 07-17-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682435)
I love "American Psycho!" :)

It's hip to be square!

BTW, Jack Nicholson's Joker performance in the old "Batman" was nominated for many awards, including the Golden Globes. So it is not unheard of for "comic book" movies to get acting nominations. And anyone who saw Batman Returns knows that this series of Batman movies is quite darker and more serious than the Batman series Jack was in.

nikki1920 07-17-2008 02:29 PM

Unitl I see The Dark Knight, I say the original 1988 Batman and Batman Begins are the best in the series. I still am a bit iffy about seeing Heath as Joker, but I've heard ALL positive reviews of his performance so far, thus, I am very interested in seeing his portrayal. He sitll won't be Jack, though.

wolffootball37 07-17-2008 02:56 PM

I agree im very excited to see Heath Ledgers performance. I here its close to Malcolm McDowell's performance in "A Clockwork Orange" which is my favorite movie, so im very excited to see "The Dark Night"!

DaemonSeid 07-17-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682440)
I heard Ledger switched it up MAJORLY. I can't wait to see it.

I know people who are doing a Dark Knight gathering where a large group goes to the movies and does an afterparty. Cool. :) Even cooler if they had costumes. LOL.

You dont strike me as one who would find that interesting....


or do you have a catsuit hanging up that no one knows about...I KNOW you don't have a Poison Ivy costume....heheheh

PeppyGPhiB 07-17-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1682738)
You dont strike me as one who would find that interesting....


or do you have a catsuit hanging up that no one knows about...I KNOW you don't have a Poison Ivy costume....heheheh

The best was when the second Pirates of the Caribbean came out...I was waiting for my boyfriend at a restaurant in the same complex as a movie theatre, and it seemed like everyone going into the theatre that night - the opening night - was dressed up as a pirate, englishman, wench, parrot, etc. It was a sight to behold. Actually, I see a lot of people up here in Seattle dress up in costume for anticipated opening nights.

AOIIalum 07-17-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1682691)
Unitl I see The Dark Knight, I say the original 1988 Batman and Batman Begins are the best in the series. I still am a bit iffy about seeing Heath as Joker, but I've heard ALL positive reviews of his performance so far, thus, I am very interested in seeing his portrayal. He sitll won't be Jack, though.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I was able to see the opening scene of the film and IF it was, I'm buying Heath as The Joker. Can't wait to see the film and find out.

jon1856 07-17-2008 08:40 PM

Found the following here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4256384.shtml
"Nolan, who brought "Batman Begins" to the screen in 2005, returns to direct this sequel, "The Dark Knight."

"This film deals with the response from criminals, personified in the idea of who the Joker is," he told Whitaker - a conflicted hero versus a villain, pure evil.

As played by Heath Ledger in his last completed role before his death in January, the Joker is not some merry prankster in pancake makeup, but a demon, a terrorist, hell bent on anarchy.

"We're saying, 'What's the most frightening thing in the world today?' And to me it's anarchy and chaos, the things the Joker represents," Nolan said.

All this nightmare-inducing chaos from a 37-year-old director with the polished air of an English professor, who sees deep meaning in Batman.

Holy Box Office, Batman!

"The Dark Knight" Set To Make Ticket-Sales History

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/17/eveningnews/main4270286.shtml

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1682415)
I just have a problem with people making a big deal out of comic book movies. It's based on some poorly illustrated picture books for 8-14 year old boys, how freaking profound can it be?

I will give you that the Batman movies have tended to be significantly better than any of the other garbage the genre has put out, but I mean come on.

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682440)
I heard Ledger switched it up MAJORLY. I can't wait to see it.

I know people who are doing a Dark Knight gathering where a large group goes to the movies and does an afterparty. Cool. :) Even cooler if they had costumes. LOL.

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1682626)
It's hip to be square!

BTW, Jack Nicholson's Joker performance in the old "Batman" was nominated for many awards, including the Golden Globes. So it is not unheard of for "comic book" movies to get acting nominations. And anyone who saw Batman Returns knows that this series of Batman movies is quite darker and more serious than the Batman series Jack was in.

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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1682691)
Unitl I see The Dark Knight, I say the original 1988 Batman and Batman Begins are the best in the series. I still am a bit iffy about seeing Heath as Joker, but I've heard ALL positive reviews of his performance so far, thus, I am very interested in seeing his portrayal. He sitll won't be Jack, though.

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Originally Posted by wolffootball37 (Post 1682731)
I agree im very excited to see Heath Ledgers performance. I here its close to Malcolm McDowell's performance in "A Clockwork Orange" which is my favorite movie, so im very excited to see "The Dark Night"!


DSTCHAOS 07-17-2008 08:49 PM

And I don't know what comic books CrackerBarrel has been reading but they are for more than 8-14 yr old boys. There are kiddie comics and adult comics--most of them are adult comics and that includes many superhero comics. When I was little, we used to spend our Saturdays in the comic book store and we were the ONLY kids who were EVER in there.

Movies based on comics are great if they don't mess up the characters.

DSTCHAOS 07-17-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1682738)
You dont strike me as one who would find that interesting....

Because you don't know me. ;)

DaemonSeid 07-17-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682921)
Because you don't know me. ;)

Clearly.

CrackerBarrel 07-17-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682920)
And I don't know what comic books CrackerBarrel has been reading but they are for more than 8-14 yr old boys. There are kiddie comics and adult comics--most of them are adult comics and that includes many superhero comics. When I was little, we used to spend our Saturdays in the comic book store and we were the ONLY kids who were EVER in there.

Movies based on comics are great if they don't mess up the characters.

To be fair I think adult comics are worse. I'll say they are for 8-14 year olds because in my way of thinking if people older than 14 are looking at glorified picture books as their entertainment reading then we've already identified the problem.

DSTCHAOS 07-17-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1682931)
To be fair I think adult comics are worse. I'll say they are for 8-14 year olds because in my way of thinking if people older than 14 are looking at glorified picture books as their entertainment reading then we've already identified the problem.

Comics ROCK and YOU DON'T. :)

I'm not talking about the adult socially inept dorks who do nothing but read comics. Comics are appreciated for their artwork and characters, only a few of them are celebrated for their complex story lines.

AOIIalum 07-17-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1682932)
Comics ROCK and YOU DON'T. :)

Amen! Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 8. If that's what it took then Long Live Comics!

jon1856 07-17-2008 09:37 PM

I think, perhaps, the term that some posters here are missing is Graphic Novel.
They are generally not your fathers (or your own younger day) comics.
"A graphic novel is a type of comic book, usually with a lengthy and complex storyline similar to those of novels, and often aimed at mature audiences. The term also encompasses comic short story anthologies, and in some cases bound collections of previously published comic book series (more commonly referred to as trade paperbacks).
Graphic novels are typically bound in longer and more durable formats than familiar comic magazines, using the same materials and methods as printed books, and are generally sold in bookstores and specialty comic book shops rather than at newsstands.".....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_novel
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/spotlight/sp200601/


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