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AOII Angel 07-06-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1676914)
p.s the 3.0 isnt national, its just for my school only (they make them higher)

Even so, if a chapter made the decision to make 3.0 the cutoff, they probably aren't willing to make an exception to that rule unless the PNM is someone's BFF from birth. Just be prepared.

AlphaXi_Husky 07-06-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1676908)
Although we're pretty much anonymous on GC...

Be careful here - many a PNM has thought this same thing and found out the hard way that it isn't necessarily the case.

And yes, the post may have been a bit harsh, but it's better to go into Recruitment with a good dose of reality rather than a false sense of expectations and wind up disappointed.

All that said, good luck to you.

Buttonz 07-07-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaXi_Husky (Post 1676917)
Be careful here - many a PNM has thought this same thing and found out the hard way that it isn't necessarily the case.
.

My thought exactly.

To the OP, if some of the girls on here wanted to find out where you go to school and who you are, they will. Also note that a lot of people from I/HQ read GC even if they don't post.

Be careful on what you say and who you say it to.

Unregistered- 07-07-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1676880)
Ok, I'll just cut to the chase:

You won't get in.

So in answer to your thread title, no.

Dear sister, we are ----->here<----- :D

nittanyalum 07-07-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1677190)
Dear sister, we are ----->here<----- :D

Hee hee. :cool:

KSUViolet06 07-07-2008 04:23 PM

For the record I'm one of the most positive people on this site, so please do not take anything I say in the wrong manner. I'm not trying to be mean, I just like for girls going through recruitment to get honest advice as opposed to someone telling you just what you want to hear:

*It would be beneficial to you to be open-minded about every sorority you visit during the recruitment process. Look around and read some of the recruitment story threads here. You can see that often, girls go into it with a "favorite" only to have that change after a few rounds.

*Recruitment is a mutual selection process, which means that as you are checking out the sororities and thinking about which ones you're interested in, the sororities are also looking for members that they think will best fit them. As such, there are cuts made every round as recruitment goes on. There's a chance that the "favorite" may choose not to invite you back at some point. That's why it is best to be open minded about all of them, that way, you have others that you're interested in, in the event that that should happen.

*The selection process of each sorority is private of course, but there is alot that goes into deciding who gets invited back. It is more than just GPA, so just because you have the GPA for a certain chapter, does not = an automatic invite to the next round.

*Grade exceptions are extremely rare. A sorority with a 3.0 GPA requirement is not likely to invite back someone below that, unless they are truly stellar in other areas (campus involvement, community service, etc). Furthermore, that decision is often not even up to the chapter, as depending on the sorority, the decision to invite back someone below the GPA requirement may rest with their advisors or some other authority figure.

*Friends in a sorority also do not neccessarily increase your chances of getting a bid there.

*If you can, get recs for EVERY sorority--especially since you said your school is a "competitive one" in the south. At some schools, you will be cut very heavily the first day if you don't have them, and you want to maximize your options.

*Only you can determine whether you "should bother." You will never know if you'll receive a bid unless you go through recruitment.

Some more advice, check out our general advice thread. it's long but it has aton of good info in it:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=54403

Best of luck to you withyour decision!

LadyLonghorn 07-07-2008 06:45 PM

So you don't even have a 2.9 right now and have already decided which sorority you want in spite of having a current GPA far below their requirement? And you'll be rushing as a sophomore at a competitive school? And you've already insulted other groups here? Yeah, good luck with that!

superstars333 07-08-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1677223)
For the record I'm one of the most positive people on this site, so please do not take anything I say in the wrong manner. I'm not trrying to be mean, I just like for girls going through recruitment to get honest advice as opposed to someone telling you just what you want to hear:

*It would be beneficial to you to be open-minded about every sorority you visit during the recruitment process. Look around and read some of the recruitment story threads here. You can see that often, girls go into it with a "favorite" only to have that change after a few rounds.

*Recruitment is mutual selection process, which means that as you are checking out the sororities and thinking about which ones you're interested in, the sororities are also looking for members that they think will best fit them. As such, there are cuts made every round as recruitment goes on. There's a chance that the "favorite" may choose not to invite you back at some point. That's why it is best to be open minded about all of them, that way, you have others that you're interested in, in the event that that should happen.

*The selection process of each sorority is private of course, but there is alot that goes into deciding who gets invited back. It is more than just GPA, so just because you have the GPA for a certain chapter, does not = an automatic invite to the next round.

*Grade exceptions are extremely rare. A sorority with a 3.0 GPA requirement is not likely to invite back someone below that, unless they are truly stellar in other areas (campus involvement, community service, etc). Furthermore, that decision is often not even up to the chapter, as depending on the sorority, the decision to invite back someone below the GPA requirement may rest with their advisors or some other authority figure.

*Friends in a sorority also do not neccessarily increase your chances of getting a bid there.

*If you can, get recs for EVERY sorority--especially since you said your school is a "competitive one" in the south. At some schools, you will be cut very heavily the first day if you don't have them, and you want to maximize your options.

*Only you can determine whether you "should bother." You will never know if you'll receive a bid unless you go through recruitment.

Some more advice, check out our general advice thread. it's long but it has aton of good info in it:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=54403

Best of luck to you withyour decision!



Don't worry, I'm going in with an open mind. Thanks for the clarification.


And to MTSUGURL, saying "ok there" and "I hope you guys realize" still doesn't prove I have a less than delightful demeanor so don't read the wrong emotion into what I write . And to the person above, I dropped that statement already. My GPA is a 2.77 now unfortunately, but its not too far. And if i wanted to really try, I could get it to a 3...

KSUViolet06 07-08-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1677769)
Don't worry, I'm going in with an open mind. Thanks for the clarification.

My GPA is a 2.77 now unfortunately.

You mentioned that the majority of the sorority GPAs at your school are 2.8 and above. Honestly, you are going to have a rough time during recruitment with a 2.77, particularly at a "competitve school in the south" where in most cases, the initial cuts are made based on grades. Recs are important, but they don't often compensate for low GPAs simply because if you're at a big southern recruitment, every girl's got a rec.

Again I am most certainly not trying to be mean, rude, or whatever, I just want you to be informed of what you're up against with that GPA. If you're at one of the bigger southern schools, chances are very good that every other girl you meet during recruitment has known since junior/senior year of HS the type of grades that sororities are looking for and has a stellar GPA.

MTSUGURL 07-08-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1677769)
Don't worry, I'm going in with an open mind. Thanks for the clarification.

And to MTSUGURL, saying "ok there" and "I hope you guys realize" still doesn't prove I have a less than delightful demeanor so don't read the wrong emotion into what I write . And to the person above, I dropped that statement already. My GPA is a 2.77 now unfortunately, but its not too far. And if i wanted to really try, I could get it to a 3...

I'm not reading emotions. Your remarks say that you know better than those you're asking advice from.
Did you ask us if you should bother going through recruitment because you wanted honesty or because you wanted a sunshiney, "Yes! It's not only possible, it's probable you'll get in!"? Recruitment is FUN, but it's also hard and you need to be prepared for rejection.
I went through recruitment as a junior at a not-so-competitive Southern school with a less than stellar GPA, a rec for every group, tons of volunteer and leadership experiences, and was already involved in a couple of other campus orgs. I had several close friends in most of them. I didn't make it. Why didn't I make it? I was a junior with less than stellar grades. But after recruitment you wouldn't believe the calls I got from women I knew in the groups that told me how much they wish things had been different, that they wished they could make an exception for grades and class status. I've been through your situation, but approached it with a different attitude. As a result, I got tons more positive support and friendships with some amazing women - some of whom have given you advice here.
You can't afford to make a less than amazing first impression. Recruitment is a lot of first impressions. You've made a poor one here with your words themselves and the attitude they convey. Am I hoping you get cut? Not at all. I'm a sucker for recruitment stories and I love it when people come back to tell us to get a bid. Just approach things differently in real life than you have here.

LadyLonghorn 07-08-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1677769)
My GPA is a 2.77 now unfortunately, but its not too far. And if i wanted to really try, I could get it to a 3...

GPA requirements are bare minimums. You should be "really trying" to improve your grades for the sake of your future, not because you think you can possibly get into the sorority of your dreams if you bother to work hard for one semester.

Zillini 07-08-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MTSUGURL (Post 1677804)
I'm not reading emotions. Your remarks say that you know better than those you're asking advice from.
Did you ask us if you should bother going through recruitment because you wanted honesty or because you wanted a sunshiney, "Yes! It's not only possible, it's probable you'll get in!"? Recruitment is FUN, but it's also hard and you need to be prepared for rejection.

I agree completely. I see this sort of thing way too often, "Those minimum expectations can't possibly apply to me, right?"

Benzgirl 07-08-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by superstars333 (Post 1677769)
Don't worry, I'm going in with an open mind. Thanks for the clarification.


And to MTSUGURL, saying "ok there" and "I hope you guys realize" still doesn't prove I have a less than delightful demeanor so don't read the wrong emotion into what I write . And to the person above, I dropped that statement already. My GPA is a 2.77 now unfortunately, but its not too far. And if i wanted to really try, I could get it to a 3...

Try!
Knowing you already have 2 semesters under you belt, to raise your GPA to a 3.0 in onesemester will take nearly a 4.0

AOII Angel 07-08-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1677928)
I agree completely. I see this sort of thing way too often, "Those minimum expectations can't possibly apply to me, right?"

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1677930)
Try!
Knowing you already have 2 semesters under you belt, to raise your GPA to a 3.0 in onesemester will take nearly a 4.0

I completely agree...this coming from an alumnae in a very NON-competitive southern school where we NEVER made grade exceptions even though we had a large number of PNMs with grades below our cutoff which incidentally was higher for our chapter than AOII international mandates.

superstars333 07-09-2008 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTSUGURL (Post 1677804)
I'm not reading emotions. Your remarks say that you know better than those you're asking advice from.
Did you ask us if you should bother going through recruitment because you wanted honesty or because you wanted a sunshiney, "Yes! It's not only possible, it's probable you'll get in!"? Recruitment is FUN, but it's also hard and you need to be prepared for rejection.
I went through recruitment as a junior at a not-so-competitive Southern school with a less than stellar GPA, a rec for every group, tons of volunteer and leadership experiences, and was already involved in a couple of other campus orgs. I had several close friends in most of them. I didn't make it. Why didn't I make it? I was a junior with less than stellar grades. But after recruitment you wouldn't believe the calls I got from women I knew in the groups that told me how much they wish things had been different, that they wished they could make an exception for grades and class status. I've been through your situation, but approached it with a different attitude. As a result, I got tons more positive support and friendships with some amazing women - some of whom have given you advice here.
You can't afford to make a less than amazing first impression. Recruitment is a lot of first impressions. You've made a poor one here with your words themselves and the attitude they convey. Am I hoping you get cut? Not at all. I'm a sucker for recruitment stories and I love it when people come back to tell us to get a bid. Just approach things differently in real life than you have here.

My school actually doesn't require recs, but thanks for sharing your story... and thanks everyone for informing me that your GPA is the first way they cut people. Atleast I won't worry and hope I'll be an exception. Now I'll go in with a realistic view and know what houses to or not to expect bids from (that is, if I don't get up to a 3 next semester).

This situation is both funny and yet it sucks at the same time: It feels like summer before senior year , worrying about what college my SAT/ACT scores will get me into, etc lol


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