I heard somewhere that KA order doesn't consider itself a fraternity. They see themselves as an order of christian knights. There's no chapter here so I can't really say anything about them other than that.

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Just because and idea is stupid doesn't mean it won't work.

Yes I think that there is still a KA chapter at Auburn.
Yes KA is considered an Order for exactly the reasons that you mentioned.
How do you know the KA's at East Carolina are racist and rude? If they seperate themselves from everyone else have you ever had any contact with them?????

I have to disagree with sororitychick.
The KA's at ECU are not that bad. I live with one so I should know http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

AlphaChiGirl is right, it is the Confederate Flag, not the Union Jack, because this is the Union Jack here (i.e. Great Britain's Flag):
http://www.ujnews.com/images/greatbr.gif

Ya your right it is the confederate flag. I don't know what i was thinking when i said union jack :-)

Then there is also a Kappa Alpha Society. Does anyone know why they use the society part?

Just thought I'd make this topic a little more confusing http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif.

I disagree, all the KA's at ECU I know are sweethearts and I've never been in a situation with them that I feel uncomfortable in. Then again, I'm a typical southern belle http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif and I love how gentlemanly they are as opposed to some of our other frats!

OOOOOOOOHHHHH I feel the SAME way!!!!! I love how our KA's are always such gentlemen!!

Ditto with Preppie

33girl - yeah, there was a KA Society in the day - they were founded in the union triad with DPhi and SigPhi i think, if i remember my fraternity history from pledging correctly. it was simply a different group than the KA order i assume, which died off

Rob


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"So listen up and you will surely see why we wear the scarlet, white and green . . . "

My brother-in-law is a Kappa Alpha alumni and he is such a sweetheart. I think the brothers of Kappa Alpha are different at all schools. It is a fact that KA was founded by KKK members but that doesn't mean that all KA's are racist. I personally do not like the attitudes of some of the KA's at ECU but I do love my brother-in-law.

Hi guys!
My father and both his brothers were KAs. I think the whole Robert E. Lee/Southern Pride issue is getting confused with racism. The way my father explained to me was KAs try and uphold the standards set by Robert E. Lee (in terms of being a gentleman, ect.). While I'm sure there are some racists in KA, I don't think they represent most members.

Just my $0.02!

Claire

I just feel the need to point out that Robert E. Lee was Lincoln's first choice for General of the Union Army and WAS going to accept that post before Virginia decided to be witht the south.

No, KA was not founded by members of the Klu Klux Klan. THats all a bunch of crap that has been spread around campus's for years. The founding fathers were, like Robert E Lee, Confederate Veterans that DID NOT simpathize with slavery. I didnt apprecate that post from a ZTA since one of our founding fathers wrote your ritual

i'm also going to have to disagree with sororitychick and stick up for the KAs at ECU. they've always been my favorite fraternity on campus and they're a great group of guys in spite of their reputation as "campus assholes."