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CRMSNTiDEGRL717 08-08-2001 05:12 PM

Steeltrap--- I believe you have a very valid opinion about posting. I know this is off topic, sorry Leslie http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif, but it's almost like we're even segregated on these boards also. I'm trying not to piss anyone off b/c I believe most of the regular posters here in ALL of the forums are well educated and smart and all have valid opinions. But, I've noticed in some of the BGLO boards when a non-BGLO member{except for sister-friends(not claiming to know exactly what that means, just info I've gathered from BGLO boards)}, posts in a BGLO forum no one even responds to their posts, just ignores them, even if a question is asked. Not everyone, b/c I've had some wonderful BGLO members respond to my posts and/or explain things to me. Which I sincerely appreciate http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif. Anyways, it's just something I have noticed and thought I would share. This is just MO.

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finest_alum 08-08-2001 05:22 PM

[quote]Originally posted by KnowledgeEternal:
[b]SteelTrap- Thank You http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Originally posted by LeslieEMU:
Everyone of those groups received somekind of reparations due to their suffering. Everyone except african americans. Did you know that someone can go to college for free if they register as a Native American in their homestate and they attend a state-school? I don't think those students were at the "Trail of Tears" were they? Why do they get extra breaks when it was their great-great-great-great-grandparents that suffered? African americans were treated like animals for years. Are their descendants any less worthy of reparations?


[This message has been edited by KnowledgeEternal (edited August 08, 2001).]


I'm sure you are aware that those registered Native Americans have to PROVE their lineage (through documentation). I have no problem with African-Americans who can PROVE that they are descended from those who were enslaved getting some kind of educational benefits. However, my ancestors were NOT EVEN IN THE US during Civil war times, therefore, I, just because I happen to be of lighter skin, should NOT be taxed to pay those reparations or educational benefits!!

And what about all the European-americans whose ancestors were ALSO treated very poorly when they immigrated here in the early 20th century? For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, read a little bit about what Irish and Polish immigrants went through. They were NOT accepted into the mainstream. There were signs up in establishments all over major cities stating things like "No Micks Allowed." etc..

If we are going to undo all the wrongs of the past rather than move on, I think my Irish American ancestry entitles me to some reparations too!


veruca76 08-08-2001 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by finest_alum:

If we are going to undo all the wrongs of the past rather than move on, I think my Irish American ancestry entitles me to some reparations too!

Yes but your family CHOSE to come here. They weren't shipped over in chains then sold, divided and treated by sub-human standards. No offense to you personally but I think you just proved why they prefer to discuss this stuff in BGLO forums.


Kevlar281 08-08-2001 05:53 PM

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Everyone of those groups received somekind of reparations due to their suffering.
I don’t recall ever getting my check in the mail, could you please explain to me how all the sins of the US have been settled with reparations. If you honestly think that only your culture has been excluded, you really should take a step back and try and look at things from another point of view. As far as some type of monetary value that should be set up for descendants of slaves, I think that burden should be put on the companies that have profited from slavery, not the middle class.

LeslieEMU 08-08-2001 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by veruca76:
I think you just proved why they prefer to discuss this stuff in BGLO forums.

Okay, since this obviously is going to continue as an "evils of slavery" discussion, I want to add something to Veruca's comment. Honestly, I've only gone into the BGLO forums a few times so I don't know how these discussions are handled there. However, it seems that if I had brought this up in a BGLO forum, I would have received mainly African American answers and I was looking for a more varied response (not that I'm likely to get an answer now). Why do some of you feel you can't discuss this here?


33girl 08-08-2001 11:08 PM

Before we all get our knickers in a twist (pardon my British) let's remember we're talking about The [UN]Real World here.

Everything you see has been edited, spliced, and re-edited for drama and conflict. MTV has apparently decided that its stereotype of the "angry black male" has gotten old and has decided to replace it with "angry black female." I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the Nicole/Malik conflict was instigated by the show's creators. Such as leading questions in interviews. ("Do you think Malik is 'being real'?")

There are valid issues here but I wouldn't take any cues from the cheese dongs on this show.

KnowledgeEternal 08-09-2001 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Liv4ChiO:
Race should be a non-issue.
It should be a non-issue but unfortunately it is an issue.

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Originally posted by LeslieEMU:
Maybe I've grown up a little too PC, but I don't understand people complain about how bad they've had it, but then then throw out negative vibes. We've all had it bad (Natives & Mexican Tribes lost their land, Africans had slavery, Jewish people had the Holocost, the Japanese had internment camps, etc.). I mean, IMO unless someone has personally been in a concentration camp or in the fields picking cotton, they should respect it as their history but for Christ sakes don't live your live with a chip on your shoulder.
So what you are saying is that since I am not in the fields picking cotton that I have no right to complain. Please clarify before I respond harshly.


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