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Thetagirl218 03-09-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1615229)
Don't forget Baylor, TCU and Texas Tech. All have competitive recruitments as well.

Ditto on this....I know several people who have gone through recruitment in Texas, and Recs are a must...Did someone already mention Texas A &M? I have heard they are very competitive also.

NinjaPoodle 03-10-2008 12:47 AM

Another org you may want to consider..
 
is Gamma Gamma Chi Sorority
http://www.gammagammachi.org/

Youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uetY0uvuBmw
and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8-0PKvU0Jw

AOII Angel 03-10-2008 07:58 AM

I hate to be the lone voice of dissent...well not dissent but maybe "devil's advocate." First to the OP, I wish you the best of luck with your recruitment process. I just want you to be prepared when you go through that it may not be a pretty process for you. I'm from the south, and I know that there are FEW women who wear a hijab in the south. Apart from religious differences which frequently are an issue in the south, you'll just plain look different. I don't want anyone to confuse me with someone who agrees with this way of thought, but I don't want you going in thinking it won't be an issue. Be prepared to be asked rude things about your religion and dress...realize that it is more for ignorance than racism (I can't think of a more appropriate word right now.) Be prepared to tell them how you could be an asset to their chapter and how your beliefs would not prevent you from participating with Christian or Jewish based rituals (I want you to know that it shouldn't...no NPC group discriminates based on religion, and you don't have to be a Christian or Jew to understand or appreciate our rituals. The problem is...your relying on young girls to administer this ruling at a local level. Anyone that has participated in or advised during recruitment knows that collegians have their own way of choosing members that does not necessarily reflect on the thoughts of the (inter)national organization or the chapter's advisors.

Elephant Walk 03-10-2008 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1615490)
I hate to be the lone voice of dissent...well not dissent but maybe "devil's advocate." First to the OP, I wish you the best of luck with your recruitment process. I just want you to be prepared when you go through that it may not be a pretty process for you. I'm from the south, and I know that there are FEW women who wear a hijab in the south. Apart from religious differences which frequently are an issue in the south, you'll just plain look different. I don't want anyone to confuse me with someone who agrees with this way of thought, but I don't want you going in thinking it won't be an issue. Be prepared to be asked rude things about your religion and dress...realize that it is more for ignorance than racism (I can't think of a more appropriate word right now.) Be prepared to tell them how you could be an asset to their chapter and how your beliefs would not prevent you from participating with Christian or Jewish based rituals (I want you to know that it shouldn't...no NPC group discriminates based on religion, and you don't have to be a Christian or Jew to understand or appreciate our rituals. The problem is...your relying on young girls to administer this ruling at a local level. Anyone that has participated in or advised during recruitment knows that collegians have their own way of choosing members that does not necessarily reflect on the thoughts of the (inter)national organization or the chapter's advisors.

She speaks truth.

Now, GreekChatters call her a racist and ignorant because she noted the truth regarding Southern culture similar to how I was portrayed.

Attack Guard dogs!

Army Wife'79 03-10-2008 09:05 AM

What about the "mandatory" outfits you would (as an active) have to wear during rush, and/or social events i.e. miniskirts, skimpy tshirts with the letters on them etc.? Strapless sundresses? Is that something you'd be able to do?

FSUZeta 03-10-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1615503)
She speaks truth.

Now, GreekChatters call her a racist and ignorant because she noted the truth regarding Southern culture similar to how I was portrayed.

Attack Guard dogs!

i doubt anyone will slam her because she shared her facts in a kind, nonconfrontational way.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 09:16 AM

The OP asked about religion. Not race. So please don't use "racism" as a catch word.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1615507)
i doubt anyone will slam her because she shared her facts in a kind, nonconfrontational way.

I think it's because she was providing a disclaimer that these weren't her views but that she's providing the views that others may have.

It's also the messenger and not the message. There are other posters who could've typed the same thing and gotten slammed for it.

DSTRen13 03-10-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Army Wife'79 (Post 1615504)
What about the "mandatory" outfits you would (as an active) have to wear during rush, and/or social events i.e. miniskirts, skimpy tshirts with the letters on them etc.? Strapless sundresses? Is that something you'd be able to do?

Is that really mandatory to be in an NPC? Miniskirts, skimpy shirts, and strapless dresses??

Elephant Walk 03-10-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1615507)
i doubt anyone will slam her because she shared her facts in a kind, nonconfrontational way.

I did the exact same thing.

Sorry, don't try to turn this around. I didn't even mention race until my greek system was insulted and forced it out.

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I think it's because she was providing a disclaimer that these weren't her views but that she's providing the views that others may have.
Wrong, I did the same thing.

edit: I apologize for hijacking. Depending on the school it may make things more difficult. Hope for the best.

cuteASAbug 03-10-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1615556)
Is that really mandatory to be in an NPC? Miniskirts, skimpy shirts, and strapless dresses??

Of course it's not mandatory, but that's what some schools/chapters choose to wear. If you're having recruitment in August in Texas, with hundreds of PNMs going through, do you really want to wear jeans and long sleeved tops?

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1615557)
Wrong, I did the same thing.

Then you should've quoted this part of my post, genius.

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1615510)
It's also the messenger and not the message. There are other posters who could've typed the same thing and gotten slammed for it.


fantASTic 03-10-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1615509)
The OP asked about religion. Not race. So please don't use "racism" as a catch word.

You may notice that AOII Angel even said, "I can't think of a better word right now."

And it's worth noting that she is potentially Asian, which means that race COULD play a factor, if people choose to be ignorant.

Don't nitpick.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1615580)
You may notice that AOII Angel even said, "I can't think of a better word right now."

And it's worth noting that she is potentially Asian, which means that race COULD play a factor, if people choose to be ignorant.

Don't nitpick.

The OP asked about religion. Not race. You don't nitpick.

fantASTic 03-10-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1615582)
The OP asked about religion. Not race. You don't nitpick.

Fine. I won't! :p


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