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DSTCHAOS 03-06-2008 11:10 AM

Soror Sheryl Lee Ralph is an Honorary Member who is actually on our National website http://www.deltasigmatheta.org/cms/i...d=46&Itemid=64 but not on the Notable Deltas list.


She isn't a reality tv personality so I'd rather not get into a question-answer session.
;)

ree-Xi 03-06-2008 11:37 AM

My questions is, what is the benefit of nationals and especially Chapters going out of their way to promote a group of familiar names as a recruitment tool?

Let's agree that there are varying levels of acceptable notariety, such as important political, civic, or industry leaders. I understand the appeal of being in "good company", and like breeds like. And it can be fun to associate one's experience with that of a celebrity or true role model, because we have gone through the same ritual, had similar experiences.

But, do people really choose ABC over XYZ because so-and-so was a member? Does that person maintain a relationship with the organization? Do they embody the values and missions of the organization to point of becoming iconic?

The point of promoting the membership of people whose names are familiar "just because" - I don't get that.

Senusret I 03-06-2008 11:45 AM

Kefla Hare from Road Rules Australia and Gabriel Langley from the first season of College Hill are both Alphas. I include them on the notable Alpha list that I personally maintain because:

1) Neither seemed to disgrace themselves or the fraternity.
2) Each proudly represented the fraternity while on the air.
3) Kefla was EXTREMELY popular among college students at the time.
4) Gabriel was considered to be part of the first all-black reality show, as BET described it.

I don't include Sean from Road Rules Semester at Sea because he was not an Alpha at the time of filming.

But this is my own list that I maintain as a service/courtesy to brothers and members of the public who might say "Oh, I didn't know ______ is an Alpha!"

It's not finished, but here's a looksie: http://mulambda.org/page.php?parent_id=&page_id=15979

DSTCHAOS 03-06-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1613499)
Kefla Hare from Road Rules Australia and Gabriel Langley from the first season of College Hill are both Alphas. I include them on the notable Alpha list that I personally maintain because:

1) Neither seemed to disgrace themselves or the fraternity.
2) Each proudly represented the fraternity while on the air.
3) Kefla was EXTREMELY popular among college students at the time.
4) Gabriel was considered to be part of the first all-black reality show, as BET described it.

I don't include Sean from Road Rules Semester at Sea because he was not an Alpha at the time of filming.

But this is my own list that I maintain as a service/courtesy to brothers and members of the public who might say "Oh, I didn't know ______ is an Alpha!"

It's not finished, but here's a looksie: http://mulambda.org/page.php?parent_id=&page_id=15979

I remember one of the challenges where Kefla did the Alpha sign as he was about to bunjee jump. It was cute. :)

33girl 03-06-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1613499)
3) Kefla was EXTREMELY popular among college students at the time.[/url]

Kefla was extremely hot at the time. :D

Little32 03-06-2008 12:44 PM

Countee Cullen and Chester Himes, who knew. Great list Rashid!

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl 03-06-2008 01:10 PM

I don't even know. I'm interested in the "notable" people, the ones who've done something besides just be famous.

It actually turned me off, majorly, to a chapter on my campus that they spent a lot of time just listing off names of actresses that were in their organization. I figured if that was a feature in their attempt to woo me as a PNM, then they must have been really stretching it. I'm not going to join just because ____ _____ (I don't want to give the organization away) is going to be my sister. I seriously doubt if I see her in a crowd and tell her I'm her sister she's going to be very thrilled about it.

Looking back I was a little harsh, but I just wasn't impressed by that. I was more interested in the sisters I would have at the chapter, not the ones I would never ever meet, famous or not.

Ch2tf 03-06-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1613416)
No.

We also tend not to call it "Famous Deltas" but rather something like "Notable Deltas." This means that these women are trailblazers and notable even if the mainstream media doesn't know who they are.

I don't recall seeing any Deltas on reality tv or ever seeing a reality tv star on the "Notable Deltas" list. You have to come a lot stronger than just 15 minutes of fame that has no lasting societal influence and public service.

I wouldn't consider her time on television as "notable" but wasn't Robin (I think that was her name) from the first cycle of America's Next Top Model a Delta? I can't remember, for some reason I feel like I remember her wearing a Delta Sigma Theta sweatshirt or something, but I'm not sure.

DSTCHAOS 03-06-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1613571)
I wouldn't consider her time on television as "notable" but wasn't Robin (I think that was her name) from the first cycle of America's Next Top Model a Delta? I can't remember, for some reason I feel like I remember her wearing a Delta Sigma Theta sweatshirt or something, but I'm not sure.

She is supposedly a Delta but I have yet to find her listed on a "Notable Deltas" or even "Famous Deltas" listing. :)

I forgot all about Cycle 1.

ETA: Robynne Manning is the older one who wore the letters on the show and I know Sorors who know her indirectly (she is from Tennessee State Univ.). Kesse Wallace from that Cycle is a Soror from Henderson State University. But neither will be on "Notable" or "Famous Deltas" lists necessarily, although they will be on their chapter's website. :)

minDyG 03-06-2008 04:49 PM

Shudder...the one name that keeps going through my head while reading this thread is Ann Coulter.

33girl 03-06-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by minDyG (Post 1613758)
Shudder...the one name that keeps going through my head while reading this thread is Ann Coulter.

Well, that's a good one to bring up. (BTW, I don't remember which GLO she's in and I really don't care) Some people would shudder to have her as a member...some people would be proud. Same with anyone controversial, or even non-controversial people for that matter. I mean, some of these actresses that everyone is so proud to say they were a member, I wouldn't be. Not because they're controversial, but because I personally just don't care for them.

SWTXBelle 03-06-2008 07:01 PM

Well, say what you will, but sisters like Ann Coulter and Nancy Grace have certainly achieved a level of success in their field. So whether or not you like them, that achievement is worthy of recognition. It's nice to know you share a bond with certain women of achievement - but I don't think anyone joins a GLO because of the alumni.

Little32 03-06-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1613829)
Well, say what you will, but sisters like Ann Coulter and Nancy Grace have certainly achieved a level of success in their field. So whether or not you like them, that achievement is worthy of recognition. It's nice to know you share a bond with certain women of achievement - but I don't think anyone joins a GLO because of the alumni.

First, Ann Coulter is vapid--this has nothing to do with her politics--she wouldn't know logic if it hit her upside the head.

Second, of course we join because of alumni, just not necessarily the "famous" ones.

sageofages 03-06-2008 07:08 PM

How about being the mother of not one...but TWO Superbowl winning team MVP quarterbacks?

Payton and Eli Manning's mom, Olivia, was a Delta Gamma at Ole' Miss U.

I think they should mention her :).

SWTXBelle 03-06-2008 07:24 PM

Well, we have alumnae to thank for our groups, but NPC recruitment is such that you are joining the chapter based on the actives.

And don't football players always say "Hi Mom!" when the camera is pointed at them?


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