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MysticCat 02-21-2008 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI (Post 1605080)
See, I knew about I(ee)ota . . .
Well, of course you did, my dear SAI. ;) Although in Greek, the Iota and the Omega form a "rising diphthong" (two vowel sounds pronounced together with the emphasis on the second vowel sound), so that the Iota becomes a gliding semivowel and the word is pronounced "YOTA."

Now, if that wasn't enough Greek letter trivia of the day:

Did you know that Omega and Omicron simply mean "Big O" or "Great O" (O mega) and "Little O" (O mikron)?

amanda6035 02-21-2008 11:53 AM
Soooo....

according to what you guys are saying, my chapter is calling our chapter designation "wrong"? Hahah. Iota Theta, but we pronounce it eye-oh-ta.

honeychile 02-21-2008 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI (Post 1605080)
See, I knew about I(ee)ota, but I didn't know about X, P, C and Y. So, it's really, Chee Omega. And Kappa Kappa Ksee. And Phee Sigma Pee. You know a friend of mine told me that P but I thought he was just making a joke cuz he's a little anti greek.
Not necessarily. If your GLO is accustomed to using the English pronounciation, then that's fine. If they prefer the Greek, that's fine, too. Think of it as an accent - just because you know an (American) sweater is an (English) jumper, it would sound affected if you said "jump-ah", wouldn't it?

MysticCat 02-21-2008 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1605103)
Soooo....

according to what you guys are saying, my chapter is calling our chapter designation "wrong"? Hahah. Iota Theta, but we pronounce it eye-oh-ta.
Nah. You may not be using accepted Greek pronunciation, but (like most GLOs), you're using accepted anglicized/American pronunciation.

Most GLOs pronounce it "eye-o-ta." As AlwaysSAI alludes to, however, SAI does not.

AlwaysSAI 02-21-2008 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1605108)
Not necessarily. If your GLO is accustomed to using the English pronounciation, then that's fine. If they prefer the Greek, that's fine, too. Think of it as an accent - just because you know an (American) sweater is an (English) jumper, it would sound affected if you said "jump-ah", wouldn't it?
I was refering to speaking it correctly, in greek. I understand the anglecan-asion of it, but like, to really speak the greek.

RaggedyAnn 02-21-2008 12:56 PM
It can vary by campus as well.

AOII Angel 02-21-2008 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI (Post 1605080)
See, I knew about I(ee)ota, but I didn't know about X, P, C and Y. So, it's really, Chee Omega. And Kappa Kappa Ksee. And Phee Sigma Pee. You know a friend of mine told me that P but I thought he was just making a joke cuz he's a little anti greek.
Iota sounds more like Yota than EEota. Alpha Omicron Pee sounds funny, so I'm glad we use the anglicized version!

rufio 02-21-2008 08:59 PM
didn't we have a big discussion about this before. Taw vs Tau, Fye vs Fee, OoPsilon vs Yoopsilon.

MysticCat 02-22-2008 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rufio (Post 1605493)
didn't we have a big discussion about this before. Taw vs Tau, Fye vs Fee, OoPsilon vs Yoopsilon.
Many times we've had this discussion. I fear we will have it many more times.

PhiKapSkulls 02-22-2008 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1604740)
this is what I've always heard too. Same with the letter Xi. Alpha *Zee* Delta, but for example,

Are you saying when you say Alpha Xi Delta you pronounce Zee not Xi? Just asking becasue at my school they say Alpha Xi Delta but when saying the letters they say it as AZD but write AXD. Always had wondered why they said Zee instead of Xi. Same with Alpha Phi.

amanda6035 02-22-2008 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiKapSkulls (Post 1605926)
Are you saying when you say Alpha Xi Delta you pronounce Zee not Xi? Just asking becasue at my school they say Alpha Xi Delta but when saying the letters they say it as AZD but write AXD. Always had wondered why they said Zee instead of Xi. Same with Alpha Phi.
ummm....we pronounce the Xi as "zee" not "zye."

Yes, we say AZD, because Xi is pronounced Zee. AZD is the pronounced the same was a AXiD (Ay Zee Dee) but we are not Alpha 'Zeta' Delta so when we write it out we write wither AXD or AXiD. (or better yet, use the actual greek letters).


ETA: Wanted to share my FAVORITE Alpha Xi song....It'll clear some of this up (haha)

*To the tune of the Oscar Mayer song...*

My sorority has a first name.....It's A-L-P-H-A
My sorority has a last name.....It's D-E-L-T-A
The middle name is hard, you see
It's spelled X-I, pronounced ZEEEEEEE
*fast* A-L-P-H-A-X-I, D-E-L-T-A, goodbye!

AnchorAlumna 02-22-2008 04:42 PM
For chapter namess, we sometimes pronounce Xi "Zye" and sometimes "Zee." And many of our our Michigan chapter members seem to pronounce their chapter name name "Beta Eks-zye." Doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.:rolleyes:

MystiCat, thanks so much for the lesson. Fascinating!

PhiKapSkulls 02-22-2008 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1605952)
ummm....we pronounce the Xi as "zee" not "zye."

Yes, we say AZD, because Xi is pronounced Zee. AZD is the pronounced the same was a AXiD (Ay Zee Dee) but we are not Alpha 'Zeta' Delta so when we write it out we write wither AXD or AXiD. (or better yet, use the actual greek letters).


ETA: Wanted to share my FAVORITE Alpha Xi song....It'll clear some of this up (haha)

*To the tune of the Oscar Mayer song...*

My sorority has a first name.....It's A-L-P-H-A
My sorority has a last name.....It's D-E-L-T-A
The middle name is hard, you see
It's spelled X-I, pronounced ZEEEEEEE
*fast* A-L-P-H-A-X-I, D-E-L-T-A, goodbye!
I understood the whole AXD not AZD thing. I was just giving background info as to my school. I actually meet AXD's at another school and they pronounced it Zye as well. In bot cases they say A Zee D for short but Alpha Zye Delta in the long form. Just found it interesting that your chapter pronounces it different.

What is the official pronounciation and shouldn't all chapters pronounce it the same?

AZ-AlphaXi 02-22-2008 06:07 PM
The official pronuncation of Alpha Xi Delta is Alpha KSEE Delta .. but usually said Alpha ZEE Delta and as far as I know every chapter of Alpha Xi Delta says ZEE ... some do say Zye for their chapter name - as in Zeta Zye for the chapter at Auburn but it was Zee chapter at the University of Kentucky.

amanda6035 02-22-2008 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiKapSkulls (Post 1606037)
I understood the whole AXD not AZD thing. I was just giving background info as to my school. I actually meet AXD's at another school and they pronounced it Zye as well. In bot cases they say A Zee D for short but Alpha Zye Delta in the long form. Just found it interesting that your chapter pronounces it different.

What is the official pronounciation and shouldn't all chapters pronounce it the same?
If they were pronouncing it Alpha Zye Delta, someone needs to wack 'em upside the head.... :D Maybe they were just being funny? I hope so anyway...I really hope I don't have sisters out there that are that...um, uninformed.

To be honest, the first time I saw the fliers around campus when we were colonizing...that's what I thought it was called. Then one of the national VPs who I interviewed with corrected me.


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