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ZZ-kai- 01-18-2008 08:12 PM

Can you provide numbers on all of these, specifically what is Pike's number? (Ave chapter size)?


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Originally Posted by sae281062 (Post 1583305)
I will try to clear this up with the information I know regarding some fraternities.

SAE (Sigma Alpha Epsilon) currently has initiated more men throughout history than any other social fraternity

SPE (Sigma Phi Epsilon) currently has the largest number of undergraduate initiates.

TKE (Tau Kappa Epsilon) has the largest number of chapters.

PKA (Pi Kappa Alpha) has the largest average chapter size.


HawaiiTKE 04-16-2011 06:56 AM

Largest to me could mean:


most active chapters
most active initiates
most members alive
most members initiated (throughout history)
most chapters
most alumni (alive)
most initiates per year
largest average chapter size
etc etc etc.


there might be a few more that people go by but cant think of em..

In my opinion it's all marketing. Depending on how the people recruit and advertise their organization then there are multiple definitions that people can claim to be the "largest".

Barbie's_Rush 04-17-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HawaiiTKE (Post 2047334)
Largest to me could mean:


most active chapters
most active initiates
most members alive
most members initiated (throughout history)
most chapters
most alumni (alive)
most initiates per year
largest average chapter size
etc etc etc.


there might be a few more that people go by but cant think of em..

In my opinion it's all marketing. Depending on how the people recruit and advertise their organization then there are multiple definitions that people can claim to be the "largest".

GC Death Match 2011.

OldU vs. HawaiiTKE. All we need in here now is Dnall.

SWTXBelle 04-17-2011 03:16 PM

SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

dnall 04-18-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 2047735)
GC Death Match 2011.

OldU vs. HawaiiTKE. All we need in here now is Dnall.

It's on. What's the argument so I can take the other side?

AlphaFrog 04-18-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dnall (Post 2047963)
It's on. What's the argument so I can take the other side?

Alright, you can knock it off with the reasonable length, witty posts or I might have to start liking you...or at least be less hostile towards you. You've already ruined my streak of never finishing reading a whole post of yours. What's next? LOLCats and RaceWar with DrPhil?

DeltaBetaBaby 04-18-2011 12:56 PM

Being the biggest is nice, but I would love to see stats on things like "fewest closed chapters" or "most chapters with complete advisory boards". I'd like to see everyone focused on sustainable growth.

ElieM 04-18-2011 09:39 PM

most consistent?

Barbie's_Rush 04-18-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dnall (Post 2047963)
It's on. What's the argument so I can take the other side?

Since ATO is the model for all fraternities and sororities, I'm sure you'll figure out some angle on being the largest.

Mevara 04-20-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2047971)
Being the biggest is nice, but I would love to see stats on things like "fewest closed chapters" or "most chapters with complete advisory boards". I'd like to see everyone focused on sustainable growth.

Using the list of chapters from the recruitment threads you can figure it out.
Top 3 NPC sororities with the most original chapters open (excludes recharters) is:
  1. Kappa Kappa Gamma - 81%
  2. Chi Omega - 75%
  3. Delta Gamma - 72%
Top 3 NPC sororities with the most open chapters (includes recharters) is:
  1. Kappa Kappa Gamma - 87%
  2. Delta Gamma - 78%
  3. Chi Omega - 77%

DeltaBetaBaby 04-20-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mevara (Post 2048837)
Using the list of chapters from the recruitment threads you can figure it out.
Top 3 NPC sororities with the most original chapters open (excludes recharters) is:
  1. Kappa Kappa Gamma - 81%
  2. Chi Omega - 75%
  3. Delta Gamma - 72%
Top 3 NPC sororities with the most open chapters (includes recharters) is:
  1. Kappa Kappa Gamma - 87%
  2. Delta Gamma - 78%
  3. Chi Omega - 77%

Wow, thanks for the number crunching, that's actually very interesting info!

33girl 04-20-2011 08:22 PM

Did you factor in (or rather out) the chapters of groups that were at schools that either ceased to be completely, or got rid of their Greek systems or national groups?

Sometimes chapters close for reasons that are absolutely beyond a GLO's control.

DeltaBetaBaby 04-20-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2048964)
Did you factor in (or rather out) the chapters of groups that were at schools that either ceased to be completely, or got rid of their Greek systems or national groups?

Sometimes chapters close for reasons that are absolutely beyond a GLO's control.

Technically, there'd be a separate category for chapters shuttered in order to join the NPC, too. Even so, I imagine this is fairly accurate.

lucgreek 04-20-2011 09:20 PM

KKG does not surprise me. Their expansions seem to be very strategic and carefully planned out. Not saying other groups aren't, but Kappa seems to be very conservative with expansion. The chapter at Loyola received a ton of assistance from the national organization when they colonized (or rather picked up the old KBG group) back in '07 or so. The chapter still receives quite a bit of support and has been incredibly successful.

Mevara 04-21-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2048964)
Did you factor in (or rather out) the chapters of groups that were at schools that either ceased to be completely, or got rid of their Greek systems or national groups?

Sometimes chapters close for reasons that are absolutely beyond a GLO's control.

No I did not take that into account as I don't know which campuses those were. I figure since this probably did not happen too often. If a school closed it would affect all the GLOs on that campus, not just one. Also excluding those few chapters would not change the percentage very much.


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