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From someone who used to play poker as a job, I can talk about the UIGEA all day and tell you that the UIGEA did not criminalize internet gambling. It was simply an attempt by the government to act like they actually care, they only succeeded in shutting down PartyPoker, and their players went to other sites.
FSU is and always will be my favorite team, I would sacrifice anything to see them back on top. 31 winning seasons in a row and having the longest bowl streak in the country speak to how phenomenal this program is, not to mention having the all time winningest coach. Right now they are rebuilding, they have the 3rd best recruiting class right now and are expecting more commits in the coming months (cant say anything specific but when the dust settles they will have a top 3 recruiting class.) It deeply pains me to see them down, even if it is just for a little bit. I know that us being down isn't the same as when Penn State is down and only wins a couple games, but that just shows that Bowden is one of the greatest coaches of all time. Say whatever you want about my actions, the bottom line is that I made a smart bet. And do not ever take my quotes out of context again, if you want to say something then please at least have the common courtesy of showing the entire sentence and not one word. If you only knew about pride in your letters... |
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I still think Joe Pa should be up for sainthood:)
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Jo Pa is my number 3 favorite coach of all time. Only Lou Holtz and Tressel are above him.
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I didn't suggest that the UIGEA criminalized anything. I simply said it was a gray area. |
Bobby Bowden is the best recruiter to ever live, and the second best coach (Bear Bryant).
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Also, "Widespread illegal gambling"? He's not associated with the mafia chief. Small time bookie operations are everywhere. They are common place. They are done in colleges. They are done in fraternities. They are done in everyday life. If you don't think more than a majority of people know and don't give a rat's ass about "illegal gambling" then you need a wakeup call. Hell, ESPN practically gives you a blue print every week on how to orchestrate a fantasy football season. You don't think people just play it for sticks of gum and plastic trophies do you? I just watched an entire special on ESPN devoted to picking winners for a College Bowl Pick 'Em. .........and also, betting on college sports in Vegas will NEVER go away. Ever. The powers that be will never, in their lifetime, see that happen. Too popular, too much money. Here, let me try: I bet on NFL football, college football, PGA golf, and college basketball on a regular basis. I use a bookie located right here in Austin. If the IRS and FBI come knock on my door because I professed this heinous "crime" on the intertronz....I'll be the first to let you know. |
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The fact that I have money riding on the game won't affect which team I cheer for. Thanks for your concern though, Nittany. Your posts remind me of arguing with my 16 year old sister.
Macallan, I appreciate someone with common sense posting in this thread. |
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Michigan State is my second favorite school, after OU, but given their record and the odds, I know better than to place a bet just because of that. |
The UIGEA has no "gray area" for actually being the one placing a wager or playing poker - the bill specifically carves out exceptions for the player, and does NOT make it illegal to play/wager.
The bill is "supply-side" but not in the player sense - instead it makes it illegal for banking operations to allow transfers to known Internet gambling operations. The legality of these operations the "gray area" being referenced, but the US Gov't, for all of its bluster and talk, has consistently shown its belief that the players are not doing anything illegal, but rather the site operators are. So yeah - continue your respective rants, but to call Internet gambling a "gray area" makes it seem like you get your information from 60 Minutes instead of the actual bill itself, which should likely be repealed about 15 minutes after a new President takes office. |
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