Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1565120)

If I ever met a guy at Penn State (there were 52 fraternities there when I was there) who called himself "fratty", I would have laughed in his face. And I don't get why you all want to play dress up every day and look the same -- don't you want to be distinguishable between houses? And couldn't perps just wear nice clothes and pretend to be in the "fratty" ranks? I always thought the good-looking guys in their letters or backwards caps looked great. I'd look askance at guys who looked like they got up "extra early" just to iron their slacks and get ready for class. If you can't "roll and go" and look good, I don't care what brand collared shirt you're wearing.

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1565126)

As I said before, I REALLY REALLY REALLY want some of these fellows to come to a Steeler game in full "fratty" attire/attitude.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1565120)

If I ever met a guy at Penn State (there were 52 fraternities there when I was there) who called himself "fratty", I would have laughed in his face. And I don't get why you all want to play dress up every day and look the same -- don't you want to be distinguishable between houses? And couldn't perps just wear nice clothes and pretend to be in the "fratty" ranks? I always thought the good-looking guys in their letters or backwards caps looked great. I'd look askance at guys who looked like they got up "extra early" just to iron their slacks and get ready for class. If you can't "roll and go" and look good, I don't care what brand collared shirt you're wearing.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565130)

Nothing is frattier than a wrinkled polo with khakis...

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1565062)

It sounds like you obsess overmuch with power and wealth in those vaunted Southern chapters. My personal view is that I don't give a crap what a member wears so long as he conducts himself according to the very high expectations of his active brothers and alumni. Who cares if he drives a lowered Honda? Who cares if he shops at certain stores in the mall? Those are utterly stupid reasons to consider oneself better than another person. Hair gel? Are you kidding me?

For all your hoity-toity holier-than-thou-ness, you seem to forget that part of having class is being able to not judge a book by its cover.

I guess you're a-okay with a serial rapist in your house so long as he only wears the pony, and other similar brands, wouldn't disturb his well-kept mane with any sort of artificial product, only drinks the finest single malt scotch whiskeys, and drives a late-model BMW and has an allowance from his parents which is high enough to maintain a fratty lifestyle?

There are excellent chapters nationwide. My own chapter is pretty southern-oriented, and yes, image is something we are conscious of (as like it or not, that has a direct effect on the overall success of your operation). I think, however, that our primary criterion in membership selection is character -- definitely not wealth or upbringing, and we do quite well.

Originally Posted by SECdomination (Post 1565127)

Then we point out their lack of tradition and mediocre chapters.

Originally Posted by SECdomination (Post 1565129)

Haha, I won't make that mistake again. My date and I had trash thrown at us during an ACC game. She was wearing a dress.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1565132)

Yeah, but nothing's more of a turn-off than a pretentious guy.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1564981)

I just wanted to start a thread discussing the differences between northern and southern fraternities, there seems to be a lot of bad blood there.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565130)

Nothing is frattier than a wrinkled polo with khakis...

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565135)

Not all ACC schools are garbage, FSU, GaTech, UVa, etc. have respectable greek systems.
I love going to a game in a shirt and tie with my date wearing a dress, I can't explain why.
And the lack of tradition thing can be misconstrued, most fraternities were founded in the north but you have to clarify that you're talking about a different kind of tradition.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565137)

I'm glad that real southern girls aren't turned off by me. Why so inflammatory, I'm not saying I'm better than greeks from the north, just wanting to discuss the differences.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565137)

I'm not saying I'm better than greeks from the north, just wanting to discuss the differences.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1565142)

If you're still wondering why there's "bad blood" there...how about you read over your posts a couple times???








You aren't? It looks like that's exactly what you're saying.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1565144)

Co-sign to AF's post and not true about all Ivy League being "fratty" (a term I've never heard used, at least with any level of respect, up north) -- my father and brother were both greek at UPenn. And they don't fit your elitist, pretentious descriptors whatsoever.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565140)

Also, the Ivy league is extremely fratty.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1565114)

The main thing I want to know is are there any fratty chapters at northern schools?