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Well, as jmagnus said, it looks like it isn't actually their ritual. Seems to me that it's just a print out of some documents from here:
http://www.tke.org/member_resources/chapter_operations/ No big deal if it's openly available. ? |
Well that's not fair; making someone pay for something that they could get for free
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I don't think the seller misrepresented himself in his item description so scamming the "scammer" is a gross misrepresentation in itself. People who do this give eBay a bad name. |
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Yes, it can backfire on you if he didn't actually place the bid or if he retracts the bid. Otherwise, if you're the second highest bidder it's optional. You get a "second chance" email and you can either accept it or reject it.
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If he is really misrepresenting the item, eBay should be contacted to let them know about it.
And you'd be wise to tell your friend to retract his fake bid, eBay does not play around with that stuff these days and if somehow he ends up "winning", he may well be tracked down. I understand the anger at these things, but contact your national if you really think someone's selling your ritual, contact the seller to see if it's an honest mistake, or contact eBay if you think something fraudulent is going on. But fake bidding or bid escalation in general is a VERY bad idea these days. |
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Not to offend anyone, but I am not that stupid. It actually is a friend, not me. Getting charged money I don't have or possibily facing criminal charges...not really my style. I'm the kind of person who would just report the seller to ebay (which I did). Don't get me wrong, it makes me really angry that someone is trying to sell something like this, but I wouldn't do something stupid. Although, I'm not saying that I didn't have a part in the suggestions;) And no, I didn't even bother to email HQ. I've sent them things like this in the past and the response is usually quite the brush-off. Unless it is an actual ritual book, they don't want it (no money, archives are full, blah blah blah...) If collectors happen to see this and bid, good for them. In the odd event that they do win, they wasted their money to learn something they could have seen for free. So yeah, I'll try to keep checking in with you all as much as possible and I'll let you know if I hear anything else. |
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Yup, everything is right there...for free. |
UPDATE
I reported the item to ebay again, this time as possibly stolen. I imagine that a TKE member left this somewhere, the seller found it and decided to sell it.
I received an autoresponse from ebay saying I would receive a response in 24-48 hours which surprises me. Usually I get the autoresponse telling me that "ebay will not be able to inform you of the outcome due to our privacy policy", or something to that effect. |
I gotta ask- why do you care so much? It's not secret, any Joe Schmo can get this information off your HQ's site, and people sell stuff on ebay that they don't know about all the time. If some poor sucker wants to pay for this thinking that it's the real thing and has the money to do so, I say let him. Heck, if I knew that someone out there was willing to pay for it, I'd probably put my Advantage up on ebay.
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I'm with cuteASAbug on this one. Who cares? It's NOT ritual. How do you know it's stolen? How do you know the seller didn't print it off the TKE website and put it in a binder himself? Get a life, people. Go rescue a badge or something.
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We had someone do this with some non-secret ASA ceremonies - try to pass them off as "ritual" on ebay.
Just because it has a candle, an open motto, and a Greek word or two doesn't make it a ritual. |
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