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2-HUNDRED lashes!?!??!? That might KILL her, for crissakes.
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Co-sign, Nittany. Co-sign everyone that's grateful to be in the U.S.
There is a chance her corporal punishment could kill her....infection, damage to kidneys, loss of blood, etc. She may live if they have a doctor present to guide them away from vital organs as they are punishing her. She is so young....I pray she lives to see better days. |
Respect their culture? Bullcrap.. when a culture has norms such as this, other civilizations are not required to respect them. We ought to condemn them.
This sort of punishment could only be carried out by barbaric animals. That said, the world community will likely be mum. We can't threaten a country like Saudi Arabia with sanctions, but damn... this is a good example why the religious political wing in any country is something to be feared. This is much like Darfur. Should we ignore the genocide going on there simply because the sovereign government there says it's okay since it's supposedly religiously justified? Hell no. None of this is okay. To be clear, I don't see this as anything generally being wrong with Islam itself. I see this as there being a large number of practitioners of Islam who are extremists to the point that they, in my eyes have largely cast aside their humanity. That a culture of this era could condone such a thing is pretty shocking. |
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200 lashes will likely kill this young woman. 90 would have been bad enough and certainly caused significant bodily harm and disfigurement. this is NOT an appropriate response of a legal system that is supposed to protect its citizens. even worse, when you think of this as a legal system who's laws possibly contribute to the actual crime. Should we have strict laws to prevent sexual predators or are they breeding more sexual predators by virtue of not allowing normal developmentally appropriate interactions between the sexes? Its like sex education in this country. By taking an abstinence only educational perspective, you get a bunch of ignorant kids who teach each other or make stuff up. I’m not saying that disallowing interaction with opposite sex non-relatives makes rapists. But I am saying that it could lead to situations where woefully ignorant people make horrible decisions. So again, why would you punish the victim? It DOES NOT make sense. |
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Saudi Arabia has been doing things this way for a long time...this is just one case. Where's the outrage for public beheadings for crimes that might not even earn prison time here? There are plenty of men that are executed for stupid reasons, too. And...doesn't everyone get why Saudi Arabia thinks it's ok to punish this woman? Because they don't see her as a victim...she disobeyed one of their laws...she broke the law, and reaped what she sowed. THAT is how messed up that place is. |
oh i completely get what you're saying too. if anything, understanding the culture is the only way to truly implement change.
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Besides.... A large percentage of rapes, sexual assaults, molestations, and murders are done by relatives. The Saudi letter of law is Saudi's. We have more than enough patriarchy in the U.S. that we don't have to borrow Saudi's. Let's not pretend that Saudi's laws are to protect women more than they are to protect the gender status quo. |
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Their way also makes no sense to many people in Saudi Arabia who feel free enough or have risked their lives to express their opinions of discontent. As much as many things in the U.S. also don't make any sense, and as much as I critique inequalities here, there's no place I'd rather be. |
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Is this based on a study or just based on your ability to find sexual predator registries? It's based on the latter. There have always been sexual predators, just has there has always been all types of crime. Unspoken rules of the past do not mean anything. The laws and social norms simply changed to make such victimization unacceptable. Just like women and children stopped being considered a man's property that he could abuse as much as he chose. |
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And I wasn't basing it on a study....I was just stating an opinion based on observation ;) |
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That we have a sex offender registry that we didn't have decades ago? Can't put anything past you. |
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Just my opinion that if we did some things different with our mores and values especially when it comes to dating, that we probably wouldn't need one. That's all |
We don't "have to" have a list, we choose to have a list.
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